Tyler Robinson

Love. Love. Love. You can't love. You can only judge. That's why you can never be spiritual. The day you will stop judging and cultivate love is the day you will be spiritual. Your comprehension is limited to academics. You have never truly loved anyone / anything. That's why your robotic language and your judgmental mentality. You are at stage Orange. You study models. At stage green, you'll study people instead of models. You're too philosophical and methodical. And too intellectual. Use heart and brain in moderation. Start feeling things. I never see you in the dating section. You never had a girlfriend. That's a nerd. Emotional logic is lacking.

Something outside your comprehension.

He sent me a message a few minutes ago. Haha he called me a disgusting loser Wow. Nice. I finally confront him. I call him a Narcissistic abuser. Because that's what he is.

@Devin The answer is yes yes yes yes and a resounding yes. A true man will say - Yes.

@Devin anyways I leave you here. I expect you to contemplate over your question once again and try to connect with the feminine and leave your bias out. Look at the feminine as the Divine and not as some utility.

Your question itself is a debate. You can't make a point and then not expect your viewpoint to be challenged. Of course you should be open minded to opposite perspectives too. All perspectives exist. Not just yours

Exactly. Fake spiritual nonsense lol. They act like they figured the world. All they know is "I'm better than you because I'm Turquoise." All egoic nonsense parade. Real spirituality is empathy and understanding and meeting people where they are at instead of demonizing them.

That's not a submissive relationship. That's an abusive relationship. Get your definitions right and stop demonizing Masculinity and femininity.

That's because you just can't come up with proper arguments. When you are challenged you run away from the challenge and put me on ignore. Show what you got.

I'm strong. I'm good. I'm strong I'm good. I'm strong. I'm good

The man is not submissive at all. The right word is responsible not submissive.. He is a provider, protector, dutiful, responsible and seeks his role in providing rather than asking.. By your logic even a woman is submissive to her child simply because she is looking to attend to the needs of her child. That's not called submission. That's called responsibility, duty, protection and authority. Healthy leadership involves taking care and understanding, in maintaining duty and performing a role. A healthy man does that because he is Alpha. A weak man complains about this role and shies away from it.

I am not interested in what the Taliban does. They are a symbol of oppression. I don't see the comparison valid. Those women are submissive but they are enslaved. That's not healthy submission. Healthy submission is natural and intuitive. It comes from trust, Vulnerability and intimacy. You have zero knowledge of femininity. You totally lack feminine understanding. You think like a man who has never understood a woman and cannot be in her shoes. Taliban is a bad faith example. It doesn't serve the argument well. It shows femininity being abused and exploited. The woman is not the problem there. The men are. They are not Alpha men. They are men who are extremely insecure and the only way these men feel secure is by abusing and controlling the women. A secure alpha man will never treat a woman like that.

@Carl-Richard and one more. I'll not accept your thread as credible as long as you don't answer my three original questions properly in full length. By the way you have failed to provide arguments to my questions. Your thread is still Null. Void. You're not able to support your thread with any amount of credibility. Sorry but that's where we stand.

No there is no loss there. Loss is what you created from a biased perspective. He is functional. It's just that your ego doesn't value it.

This is because you don't see value in companionship and intimacy. You think that companionship can only exist when a man derives some benefit. That's a selfish mindset. Case 1 - A man who is abundant doesn't care what he is going to get in a relationship. He cares more about how he makes his companion feel and enjoys her happiness and makes her happiness his. Case 2 - A man who is not abundant is constantly trying to leverage a relationship with arguments like —"what can I get in return if I'm offering so much?" A woman is never a hole and a food vending machine. This is simply not possible at all whatever maybe the dynamic of a relationship. No true man will ever see a woman as a hole and a food Vending machine. This attitude can only come from a man who has never respected a woman for being a woman. He sees her as an object that should fulfill his needs. Seeing a woman as a hole and a food vending machine is the highest patriarchal form of objectification of women and not a sign of a true man Case 1 is an Alpha man Case 2 is a non Alpha man A woman doesn't need to do anything to prove her worth. She is a container. She is a bowl.. A vessel of joy. A man is the builder. He is a the penis. He is the seed. That's why the vagina is shaped like a bowl and the penis is shaped like a serpent or a giver, a hose. The man finds joy in the companionship of a woman and the woman finds joy in the Alpha nature of a man, in his strength and protection. Together they create a perfect relationship of joy and magnetism. A beautiful friendship. If you judge a friend, you are no longer a friend If you judge a woman, you are no longer her friend. Alpha men don't see the value in a woman, they first seek value in themselves and then automatically attract women who see this value as well. The reason why you see women as a hole and a food vendor is because you're simply not connected to the feminine. You are unable to cherish the feminine. You are unable to value the feminine or understand the feminine. You don't drown into her pleasure. You don't submit to her. You just look at her superficially. A man who is connected to the feminine sees value in her femininity and dives into her blissful state. Is attached to her like a child is to a woman's breasts.

I have this same mentality. Only men who don't want to work hard in being stronger in their masculine keep judging women. It comes from a place of insecurity and lack. I have never seen fulfilled secure strong men complain about women. And what can a strong man not do? Can't he just reject the woman and move on to the woman he truly wants? What are these guys even complaining about? Seems like they just want an excuse to not do anything. Their focus is always external rather than internal. If they constantly judge women, they lose themselves in the rabbit hole of judgement. They don't even see how they are creating their own rabbit holes and traps. What a pity!

I don't want to know what society usually calls. Because I don't have a weak spirit to rely on bullshit social validation. You Sir, your arguments are low consciousness and you don't have a Stallion mindset. Weak-willed is how I will characterize your arguments. A stallion mindset embraces weaknesses rather than demonizing them. I have a stallion mindset so I can see light where others see darkness, and I can see hope where others see despair and loss. If anyone needs a lesson in adulthood more than anyone else, it's you. Value is where value is created, where a person sees value in who they are and what they can give. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. And if you're too blind, you won't see beauty in weakness. I swear this entire forum has a shadow against mentally ill. Everyone is always demonizing or scoffing at the mentally ill here. When the truth is the greatest insights on this forum have come from mentally ill people here. You might as well have said — a man who lost his legs in an accident is not functional anymore. Yea lol so much for maturity. I feel like calling @Proserpina here. Well she came just when I'm typing.

For people like you I have a proverb that I invented — Wear your struggles and scars as badges and medals rather than as failures and flaws.

This thread is your cognitive bias Carl and you fail to see it. You're too enveloped to see outside the box..

@Carl-Richard hello you're talking about mental health problems. I expect better out of you. Are you seriously looking down on them?

The man loves the woman and finds happiness in fulfilling her. He is bonding with her. You're acting as though he is just a provider or an ATM machine and reducing the woman to a kid who only keeps demanding. You have a bias against such relationships and that's why you don't see them as of much value to either party. These relationships are just as valuable as any other. The man is simply doing more than what average men do, and yes, it's not that the woman cannot give him emotional support when he needs it. If a man is already confident and fulfilled in his man's role, for what reason in this world would he look up to the woman for any advice. What can a woman do that he cannot himself? The same applies to the women as well. But let's not bullshit here and assume that relationships are all about parity. How else are you going to generate attraction and polarity in a relationship? There should be some meat for the woman to gorge on? She is not marrying her brother, is she? She is marrying a man precisely because of the value he has to offer. If she can do everything he does and is completely similar to him in every possible way, where's the polarity and magnetism to hold them together. Why will she even need a man? Sorry but that's how feminists think? A woman wants to respect a man. Respect is earned when you see someone being and doing better than you. This is human psyche and if you didn't understand this, you didn't understand human psyche. Your are talking about stuff that weak men talk about. They rely on the woman and the woman is soon tired of it unless she is the kind of woman who likes to be the boss. And those relationships emasculate men and look trashy and weak, the man being more like a servant than a leader, he turns into a bauble for her to carry around. What is that even, where a man has no growth and the woman is simply draining him dry for her needs and uses him as repairman/agent /ATM machine to feed narcissistic stupid egoic needs like Paris Hilton carrying her puppy around.

I don't have a lot of time on my hands. Okay so this thread is not going to be taken seriously by me as long as the OP does not explain me fully and functionally without alluding to third party BS two major questions in full seriousness and depth. And If the OP cannot do this without just joking, throwing things around, beating the bush, saying vague things then sorry he loses the argument completely and all his information in this thread is Null So these are two basic questions the OP needs to come up with intelligent answers for and no cross questioning. That would be evasion to. (I'll come back after some time to see if valid arguments were really offered or the same beating around the bush is going on, okay) So here's the questions - Why is adulthood important? How do you prove that self ruminations are destructive or not make a person functional? What can adult do that an adolescent cannot do? Answer these questions without beating around the bush and I'll take the thread seriously. Till then adios

You're quoting a pseudo intellectual who has lately turned into a joke and needs adulthood lessons himself. Now back to both or us in the room. Why is adulthood important? Your arguments please.. You didn't give me any so far.

I think submissive is a relationship where the woman submits to the power of the man. Whether it's good or bad is decided by the man's actions. A woman's submission is like food. If the man eats the food, he is respecting it. If he trashes the food, he is abusing it.. So a good healthy non-abusive guy uses a woman's submission to create loyalty and trust and makes her vulnerable to connect and learn about her. And a bad unhealthy abusive guy uses a woman's submission to break her trust, manipulate her, see her as weak, destroy her physically and mentally, test her limit to how much she can take before she stands up, and use her Vulnerability to control her and against her and take her for granted and use her to his will and reduce her to a slave.

This cannot be proved at all. This seems like some far fetched projection.