Tyler Robinson

And how are you gonna grab a girl who plays you for a fool

Players can also show love. Gaming can be doyne in healthy ways.

You have a pro immigration bias because you ire an immigrant yoyurself.

I think I'm at all stages at the same time. Doesn't make sense. These are simply different perspectives rather than stages. All of these perspectives are based on conditioning, some evolutionary some cultural.

Nice post but too much theoretical assumption and too psychological..

Not berating, just pointing out so there is clarity on what is going on. False conclusions need not be drawn.

It's actually worse than being logical. If you take into account each one of the posts and connect the dots, you'll see some kind of a (sadistic defeatist) tendency where he wants to first try X to get result Y and when he won't get that result he would try to reason it as women are dumb, brainless, unpredictable and they confuse him and women are hard to win because women themselves make it hard and therefore impossible to win women and it was none of his fault if he didn't get the result he wanted. It's almost like this is the conclusion he is looking for, almost hunting for a confirmation bias for his already established notions about women. He wasn't looking to learn anything about attraction, he was simply looking to win the argument. He has a big ego which means he has already decided the outcome even without trying and discovered his own theory to fit such an outcome, since actually trying to win women needs understanding them and understanding women would require him to drop all of his egoic dissonance and that's hard to do since it shatters the ego to the core and destroys every mental construct and all of the sexist constructs he has built up against women including the one the where he inherently believes that women shouldn't really deserve love since they are too dumb or weak so why even bother pursuing them or pursuing women is a contemptuous endeavor. (proper incel mentality - women are just bad, why bother).

No I wont be okay with that. I need sex with intimacy. Intimacy has to be a part of my sexual experience. I'm sorry but we are derailing this thread with personal questions pertaining to me. I think we can stop here. I don't wish to give out every single personal detail of my sexual/dating preferences. It feels unnecessary, irrelevant to this thread and Intrusive. I'm not the only woman in this whole wide world. My preferences might not be the preferences of other women. I'm irrelevant. I participated in this thread just to leave my opinion not for a whole saga on my personal dating life. I won't reply anymore. Have a good day.

Well I was talking about sexual intimacy if you didn't get the hint.

My God. I can't. Intimacy means sex.

My priority? Sex and domination. Because my highest need is intimacy.

Iet me make it clear since saying it the 49th time didn't make it clear so I'll say it 50th time, Women need a man with Strength + sense of humor + great sex + domination + Vulnerability (but not victim) + social calibration. I think I'm done with this now

If your argument involves calling me a moron or brainless then you definitely won. Congrats!

I don't think you read me right. You make your own assumptions. I never said sex is a part of humor. I never said one is important than another. I said a strong man can be both sexy and humorous. He can have all the qualities that a woman wants. I said humor has its own place and time. I didn't say that he shouldn't be humorous. I don't know what you're reading.

This is a myth..Cavemen have brains. They're not that high IQ as someone who is educated but they are street smart. You don't need great education for a simple life. Does a pizza delivery guy need a doctorate? Absolutely not. In fact most common people have rudimentary skills and not much education yet they do good enough and get by in life somehow. Unless you are living in Silicon Valley where your software gymnastics could be put to good use. Other than that, most people live a simple life with simple needs. Basic technology is accessible to everyone and even the caveman has learned how to use a phone. All you need is a phone and internet. I don't even remember the last time I used the computer. If technology is what separates humans from animals, then I would rather be on the side of animals, they're much gentler. So people who live in Amish community with little technology are Animals? No. Strong men have a protective side. I can't help you with your myths and beliefs. I speak from experience. I have been with strong dudes and yes they are protective alphas. It's very dogmatic to assume that someone who is physically strong is abusive. Guys learn karate or visit the gym, it's not always to punch someone. Maybe they do it to be protective husbands for their wives and families. You have some eccentric ideas about men. Dwayne Johnson is a physically strong guy. He is not abusive. A lot of strong men are gentle bears. You're loaded with projection. You're talking about toxic behavior here. You're literally describing a parasite. To be vulnerable is one thing and I would highly appreciate if a guy cried to me. One of my exes did. However there's a huge difference between being vulnerable and soft in a moment of despair versus using the other person as an emotional tampon, an emotional punching bag, using up all of their time and energy to unload all your problems on them day and night, completely draining and exhausting them with your nonsense and drama and not having even the slightest consideration for their health, time and life. It not only displays the behavior of an ingrate but is extremely selfish and exploitative. Who in the world would be happy with a person who complains day and night? Would you like a woman who constantly calls you all the time for help or keeps demanding things from you all the time. I'm sure you will run away from her on the 10th day. There's something called boundaries in relationships. You cannot take advantage of someone just because they love you. That's selfish. Having Vulnerability in a moment is fine. But constantly whining and complaining and never trying to bring any positivity is not Vulnerability but victim mentality and is generally synonymous with Vulnerable Narcissism, a type of cancer my second ex had and hopefully I never have to deal with that soul eating behavior again. It's worse than being raped and beaten. I was hospitalized because he wouldn't stop stressing me out with his problems for straight 15 days. I collapsed at the end of it and he had no mercy. Terribly selfish. If you want some woman for your selfish reasons (agreed that everyone has a selfish agenda, nobody is a Saint, but remember there are boundaries to how much devilry you can bring into a dynamic, if you're too selfish, people will automatically move away, can't blame them.), then don't have a relationship, you will save her a lot of trouble. Why have relationships just to unload all your problems? Relationships involve sharing and caring but within a certain boundary. It's not a buffet where you just keep eating and eating and let the other person be totally used by you. That's called exploitation not Vulnerability. I think this thread might benefit with your victim mentality. Read it. Whatever I told you should be enough for you to know the reason why I broke it. He gave me no space and acted like a total parasite. He was shorter than me, not physically strong, so he did not beat me, he was a beta, I thought he would be nice but he was an insecure bloke who used me as a punching bag for his failures, frustrations and problems. And took advantage of my generosity in the name of Vulnerability. A woman is not Hulk Hogan. She is not some Superwoman. A woman needs comfort. All women want comfort. No woman wants a life of misery or hardships. Have you ever seen a woman complain about 'wealth'? Most women want comfort, protection and safety. That's just how women are. Reality is that women choose stronger richer men and then live a carefree life. Women who don't win the jackpot try to just get by. Reality is harder for men and it makes them stronger. When reality becomes harder for women, it makes them miserable and bitter and generally jealous of other luckier women. Men want challenges, women want comfort. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. A caveman's life is not easy. He is always busy protecting his family and taking care of things. How can that be easy? But by doing harder stuff he is maintaining his manhood. He is exactly the kind of guy who can take responsibility. When shit hits the fan, guys like you won't be able to protect their women from being raped because you don't even know how to punch. @mr_engineer I've described what alpha means to me in this post. However it may not align with the standard societal definition of alpha and that's fine. Every woman has her own version of what an alpha male means to her. So this is what alpha means to me.

@mr_engineer it actually goes both ways. There are healthy alpha who are strong and protective. There are unhealthy alpha men who beat women. They are healthy beta guys who understand and are gentle to their girl. They are unhealthy beta guys who constantly upset the girl with their negativity and lack of commitment. It goes both ways..

Not necessarily. This is a huge myth. I've been with tough men. They did not beat me. They were protective of me in fact. Some guys who are physically strong can be abusive. The woman has a choice to drop such men. But there are men who are tough on the out but gentle in their hearts. And what about mental abuse? I had been with a beta guy. He would regularly bug me with his insecurities to the point I couldn't work. He would constantly make up stories that weren't true. He was extremely stressful to deal with. He would compare himself to other men and keep telling me how he never liked himself. It became a headache because he began to be very negative and there was no happiness in the relationship with his constant complaints. He would never take action to change himself. Always bitter, whiny and never sharing a laugh. It drains you at some point. I broke up with him and he began stalking me at my workplace. He would call me in the middle of the night when I was dog tired. At last he forgot me and left me for good. That relationship was a nightmare. He wasn't a caveman and he was good at technology like your software guys, but his constant negativity and complaining was driving me insane. You're wrong about many things. Alpha men take responsibility which makes matters easier for women. Saying that all alpha men are abusive is a cop out that most guys use as a way to avoid working on themselves. It's like saying all successful people are cheaters.

Sex is important to me. I didn't say it's important to all women. Software developers are the strongest men? Maybe our definitions of strong differ a bit. I don't associate strength with social status. I would much prefer a caveman. He will know how to take care of stuff. At least he will protect me from rape.

Sex is important to me. I never dated a software engineer. If I interacted with them, I found that they couldn't say romantic things or couldn't tickle me. Conversations with them got boring very quickly. Keeping things interesting is important in a relationship or else feelings never develop in the first place or people lose interest. A guy who is sexy is always interesting.

@mr_engineer yea a sense of humor is good. But who would want someone who laughs all the time. Not me. I like serious men who also know when to laugh. Like I said, everything has a time and place.

I don't know why strength and humor cannot go together. Of course they can. A woman will always admire strength at the end of the day, ask any woman. A man can be bold, strong and humorous at the same time. I don't know why one should exclude the other. Physically strong means he is tall (6 ft) and has a tough body. Mentally strong means someone who can face situations in life and doesn't make a mountain out of a molehill, knows how to support the woman if she is feeling lonely or hurt instead of running away from situations and is able to guide her when she needs him. That's the kind of man she is attracted to. You can't dictate attraction.

Humour has its own place and timing. I wouldn't appreciate a guy being humorous when the situation is sad or uncalled for. It shows a lack of social calibration. For women social acceptance is valuable, having a guy who is lacking in social calibration can be a headache to deal with. Even humorous men can be strong men. Weak men take offense at everything and no woman wants to deal with a whiny guy women have enough drama of their own. They want to come back home to a peaceful secure non whiny strong man.

You shouldn't have to worry about the family. Do what you like. You like the girl and the girl likes you, I don't see why there should be a problem.

I think you got it wrong. Women like a man who is exciting. Not boring. Being a simp and constantly acting slavish to her doesn't stimulate her. Neither being rude. It's made to look like women like cold hearted guys. But the reality is that they see a guy who is reserved as serious and masculine, not cold, someone who doesn't take shit and knows what he wants. Girls like a well put together guy who is determined, decisive, bold, confident and a pillar of strength. A ruthless guy exudes these qualities. At the same time she doesn't want him to be rude to her, just direct, serious, masculine and authentic. Simps don't exude such qualities, they show dependency on the woman, which is a big turn off since women like a man who is dependable rather than dependent. Women are attracted to strong personalities in men. Weakness drives them away. Much of what women are attracted to is based on biology, brain wiring, conditioning and evolution. Attraction is an unconscious unintentional involuntary process.

Sometimes he can be a bit deluded. Letting him know that serves a good purpose. And if it doesn't, no loss.