Emerald

It was the most intense for sure. But I suppose profundity and intensity are two different things. All were profound. The first two were beautiful and pleasant. But the latter was very intense and very bad trip by any measure. So, I've had three very profound Ayahuasca experiences. But the latter reminds me of this video... though it wasn't a visual experience at all. The first two were amazing experiences of being grounded in one-ness and getting some distance from my ego and a dropping away of suffering and fear. And an immersion in a kind of love that I can relate to as a human being. They were profound in a way that was grounded within Maya. And I was able to see all the little ways that I would self-deceive and a bunch of other psychological happenings that I was previously unconscious to. I can say that these were experiences of the merging of the human and divine and to recognize the divinity in the mundane. The third was very different. It was all about death and emptiness... very much akin to what I pointed out within the video. It was like being pulled behind so many veils. And then my body was falling apart. And I died and merged with the nothingness from which the everythingness springs. And I was this nothingness, and I intimately experienced and understood all the connections between everything in the infinite existence all in one instant (though time was not a thing... nor was sensing nor understanding). I knew things and remember knowing things that I can't possibly understand now. And I both was and wasn't able to handle everything in infinity. And as I (God) had a hard time experiencing the elements of infinity that included suffering, I (God) who was impervious to suffering would wrap around myself and comfort me (God), and in a moment things would resolve and there would be peace. And then I (God) would wake back up the the infitine nature of my existence and I (God) would panic and freak out... then I (God) would wrap around myself again and comfort me (God) and I (God) would understand an infinite amount of connections and comfort me (God) again. And this kept happening, until I (God) felt unable to handle it. I (God) had to surrender to the fact that I (God) needed mercy and a reprieve from my infinite nature as I (God) longed for the experience of finiteness. And then, I began to remember Emerald. And I (God) made a conscious decision to live as Emerald and to experience this finite story line and to surrender to my humanity and to relinquish seeking to transcend or get rid of my finite nature. It was clear to me then, that the intention for my life was to exist fully as human as that was the experience that I (God) wanted to have.

No, I just found this music video the day before yesterday.

Because women need you to be in person and to feel safe with you to appreciate any sexual humor... and neither of those bars were cleared. It takes a high degree of social acuity and emotional attunement to do it right. And that just CAN'T come through in text. Women really need to experience your personality in life to get a feel for you. Mind you, it would even be somewhat challenging to pull off in person to begin with. You'd have to wait until she was already having a great time with you and certain barriers came down even at that to pull off a sexual joke. And it would have to feel free of agenda and be very socially graceful even at that. Also, women are used to being sexually bombarded. And it can be like being approached by a salesman, which feels frustrating at best... and definitely not arousing. And you slid into her DMs which just makes you look thirsty and desperate. Women get those kinds of messages all the time, and it's always like, "Hmm... This guy I haven't talked to in years is sending me a message. I WoNdEr what he wants." Also, it reads as socially acceptable when comedians make sexual jokes because it isn't being directed at a specific person and there's not a clear sexual agenda behind the joke. They're just doing stand-up and their joke happens to be sexual. So, it isn't just about making a sexual joke... its about making a sexual joke that's a bit awkward and pointed toward a certain person and is clearly for the sake of fulfilling an agenda. And it's usually okay if a guy makes a sexual joke to a woman he's already been intimate with as the sexual barrier has already been crossed. If there has already been sex, then sexual humor is pretty normal in that situation. The only exception is if the relationship has changed to such a degree that she no longer wants anything sexual to do with him anymore.

If you PM'd her, she probably was like "Uh oh. Here's another guy sliding into my DMs. I guess I'll tolerate it for a bit if he isn't weird about it." This is something that happens relatively often where guys will PM on Facebook if they're interested, so I'm sure that she's had precedent for it. So, when you went to a sexual place, it probably just confirmed her suspicions and she shut the conversation down there. Basically, it's not a great idea to begin with to try to make connections that way. But if you do, you definitely don't want to bring it to somewhere sexual, even as a joke. That's an in-person thing.

I think there needs to be more experience. Right now, I think you're going off some hypotheticals and worst case scenarios. Now, there can be women out there who have a huge laundry list of qualities that they're looking for in a partner. This happens sometimes. But they're not better off for it. This often just leads to analysis paralysis and a disconnect from genuine emotional resonance with someone. So, that is their cross to bear to get back in touch with feeling and to remove that intimacy block. I have worked with a good handful of women who are trying to open up but struggle with it. And there are often a litany of personal reasons why someone might micro-manage their love-life in that way... often dealing with fear and self-esteem issues... and even a desire to avoid repeat traumas from their childhood or from past relationships. So, the reasons why someone becomes this way often has nothing to do with simply what's par for the course in dating. Now, when it comes to what you have to offer and finding someone analogous, I tend to find that like attracts like in that way. We tend to attract partners with analogous virtues and analogous vices. This is why it is good to develop ourselves as we are more likely to attract and be attracted to someone who is how we are. Now, it can happen that someone with lots to give ends up in a relationship with someone who only takes, but that can be chalked up to self-esteem issues and issues with boundaries and codependency. So, as long as you've hammered those out, it will be okay. So, I would look a bit deeper at why you would expect that you'd attract a woman who would undervalue you and not treat you fairly. There can be many reasons. One common reason is just lack of experience talking to women in both platonic and romantic situations. When we don't interact much with a certain group, we can project our fears into the uncertainty. Or it could be a feeling that you're inferior or inadequate in some way that was picked up along the way... and then fearing/assuming that no woman will ever value you as much as you value her. I would really look deeply and honestly at (beyond the surface) what makes you feel like your contributions in a relationship would be undervalued or taken advantage of. And I would look first at your past in general... not just with regard to relationships.

I understand why that would be difficult. Men are social beings and need support too. I think there tends to be a kind of cut-throat view of life and dating thrust upon men... which often makes things unnecessarily more difficult and not less. Now, of course, dating/relationship is highly contingent upon conditions. So, there is that. There is no such thing as unconditional relationship. And everyone has their standards. But it's important not to fall into victim mode. And I ultimately think the reason why you seek out examples of women being harsh and overtly picky is because you fear that no woman will care for you for who you are. But that is not the case.

I didn't watch it. It's just not relevant to me. I am not a woman with a long laundry list of expectations... nor am I looking to marry a woman with a long laundry list of expectations. I was just reading through the thread and saw that you missed Leo's point about confirmations biases. And I was pointing out that this was a VERY common but fallacy-ridden rhetorical strategy.

He was referring to you essentially saying, "See! A woman confirms what I say!" It's a lazy argumentative stance where "Person A" attempts to make an argument that criticizes "x" group... and to do so, they find a video or post from someone in "x" group who holds a perspective that criticizes something about "x" group. And then says, "SEE! Look, I must be right. A person in "x" group is saying it!" It also involves a bit of a logical fallacy that assumes that, just because a person belongs to "x" group, that their opinion must have more weight to it regarding "x" group... even if their viewpoint is marginal within "x" group. It's kind of like how Phyllis Shlafley was a huge opponent of women's rights, despite being a woman. And tons of men would rally behind her because, "SEE! Look, we must be right to deny women's rights. A woman agrees with us!" So, he is right that it is a very cringey and transparent rhetorical strategy.

There is unconditional love... but there is no such thing as unconditional relationship. Being with someone in relationship involves a lot of logistics and boundary setting. So, you'd need to actually test the waters and see what feels right to you AND to do this with a woman who has compatible goals for the relationship. There are plenty of women who are polyamorous or who are not looking for a serious commitment. In fact, I'm sure there are dating sites for people who are specifically not looking for anything too serious or who are looking for an open relationship. But remember, there is no such thing as unconditional relationship. So, it is best to look for a partner whose conditions and relationship expectations don't clash with your conditions and relationship expectations.

That's true. It can always twist around. But my bet is that it will have a net positive effect once things fully unfold. But Antifa could be predicted to have a net negative effect overall. They're just a gift to those who want to discourage progress and to scape-goat and malign left-wing poltical moves. That, and they don't really effect any well-known positive change.

That was when you were on the phone with me! I remember that.

Sure, it's possible for you to be the target of hatred for your gender, sexuality, and skin color. Hatred is a human emotion, so anyone can hate anyone for any reason. And it isn't a good thing, obviously. But I'd imagine that it probably doesn't happen all that often to you on the basis of your demographics, as you happen to belong to groups that are seen by society at large as simply being the default for personhood... and thus these demographic elements are not really noticed as much compared to how much these demographic elements would stand out if you were female, gay, or if you were a person of color. But beyond this, you must realize that context matters... and contextually, straight white men are not systemically oppressed as a result of these demographic factors. And systemic oppression IS what racism/sexism/homophobia is at its core. And it runs a lot deeper than just people hating or being mean. So, yes... people can hate you and be mean to you based on your demographics, and it isn't very nice. But it isn't the same thing as systemic oppression... which you may not even fathom of what that truly entails having by chance hit a BINGO on your demographic factors. Systemic oppression runs much deeper and has far-reaching consequences for someone's life. A handful of blue-haired SJWs on Tumblr saying "I hate white men", simply does not have far-reaching consequences on your life... even if it gets on your nerves or hurts your feelings a bit.

The reason why I view it as a clear advance in societal evolution toward Green in the more zoomed in perspective, is because it has demonstrably increased class consciousness... in a way that sweeps across all of society. And it hasn't lead to any significant number of people jumping on the side of hedge funds. The key difference between the Gamestop situation and most of the others you'd mentioned is that there is a direct correlation to Green evolution with the Gamestop situation instead of of an inverse correlation to Green evolution with many that you mentioned. For example, we could say that MAGA, the Capitol riot, slavery, Capitalism, Hitler, hedge funds, and Wall Street have all played a part in opening society's eyes to Green in an inverse way. It shows the opposite of Green and wakes us up by contrast. So, if our goal is societal evolution and not societal devolution or stagnation, then we can recognize that the fighting against these things will more objectively lead to Green (and thus the stepping stones to an eventual Tier 2 society) than to let them fourish. But in the case of the Gamestop situation, this plays a direct (instead of inverse) role in greasing the wheels towards Green as it has directly lead to more class consciousness. And thus, there is little benefit with regard to societal evolution for those in the peasant class (and yes, I include you in this class even if you have built some wealth for yourself) to rail against it and dismissing it as unilaterally negative... as this does have many more immediate positive potentialities. And it's of especially little benefit for the peasant class to become selectively outraged at day-traders on Reddit while giving hedge funds (that have engaged in this kind of thing for a very long time) the shoulder shrug of acceptance... and to wag fingers and say, "two wrongs don't make a right" while not having treated hedge funds with a consistent amount of finger wagging. This is the basis upon which I see the Gamestop as a situation that doesn't need to be poo poo'd by the peasant class. But instead, to be seen as a small evolutionary victory... as it has done the job of directly opening people's eyes... as opposed to opening people's eyes by contrast. Also, there is the fact that these levers of manipulation won't be available to the average person for long. Wall Street certainly won't just sit idly by and let the peasants rig their own rigged casino against them. So, there probably won't be long-term negative effects in the same way that there has been long-term negative effects from hedge funds rigging things in their favor and manipulating the market for such a long time. Edit: Here's a more concise way to explain it... Fighting against the things you mentioned IS what greases the wheels of societal evolution. Fighting against the Gamestop situation doesn't do anything significant towards societal evolution as fighting it just maintains the status quo. If the average person fights against it, it would mostly just squelch the valuable insights that can be gleaned from it. It would throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Certainly it is as I am speaking from the perspective of the relative paradigm. Anything to do with human evolution is ultimately going to deal mostly with the relative perspective as these are the things that play out within Maya.

Yes. This is true... but also incomplete as your perspective edits your own feelings and perspectives out of the perfection. You still create the dichotomy of internal response vs external happening. Both are a manifestation of the perfection of that which is. Part of that higher perspective is to realize that our human responses to the current events are also a manifestation of perfection. So, if I am in the higher perspective, and I am in the middle of a war zone... I will recognize the perfection even as there is pain and suffering. But likewise, when I feel sorrow in response to that pain and suffering and a desire to change the situation... my feelings and desire to change the situation are also a manifestation of the perfection. And this is because internal and external is a false dichotomy. When one becomes more conscious, it is not that they feel less desire to ease the suffering of others. But the desire to ease suffering comes without grasping and aversion... and that ability to hold space for anything that arises, both internally and externally. But my point that I was making in the last post is that both this day-trading and the MAGA situation are going to be helpful for human evolution in the long-term perspective. But the MAGA thing is worth fighting against because of the more immediate consequences... and also the fighting against it is part of the evolution. And the Gamestop situation, at its current state, is worth being celebrated for what it has revealed... and also the fact that it will most certainly be reigned in fairly quickly, as it is against the financial interests of the owner class. In the more relative sense, the MAGA thing is perhaps a necessary fire to burn in the long run... but threatened to create a lot of immediate damage. So, it's important to extinguish it if we can. But this Gamestop situation is also a necessary fire... but there is very unlikely to be a long-term threat because of the powerful people it might impact.

Obviously I'm not saying that. Please stop straw-manning my argument. I'm saying that this having happened is a net win, not because "Yay! We can all fuck with the market now!" But because, now that average people have discovered en masse that they can fuck with the market, that there will be changes in the way things are handled. And this is because the existing power structures are the way they are to protect the financial interests of the owner class. And now, that the owner class's financial interests are being threatened and the devil is being hoisted on his own petard... Either... a. The levers of market manipulation will be closed to both royal and peasant alike OR b. Wall Street will pay off politicians to green-light legislation that cracks down on peasants but not on elites. And because this is a huge story, the average people will see this and become more aware of the class warfare being waged upon them by elites. And this will likely lead to more class solidarity.

It's an issue with the system. If there are levers to pull to manipulate it, people will try to pull them. Hedge fund managers have been doing so for a long time. Now, day-traders did the same thing. But the significant thing is that the response was totally different. It's business as usual when hedge funds do it... but economic terrorism when day-traders do it. And the average person sees that that is unfair... and that's HUGE. This tells you everything you need to know about the system and how those with money and power rig it in their favor to accrue even more money and consolidate even more power. It also shows you who truly owns the government and mainstream media, when you see the systems in place bending over backwards to protect the interests of Wall Street. So, we have the systems issue that we can work on. And we have the issue of class warfare... which disproportionately effects the average person. But sure. We also have to address the reason why there are people who want to hoard so much more money than they could ever spend in a lifetime... who are willing to mess over so many people to do so. These people are not demons. They are regular people who happen to be motivated by greed, just like any person can be... and greed is motivated by deeper emotional issues and the epistemological issues around self-worth.

I'm not saying that day-traders are going to fix the Capitalist problem. And I'm pretty sure you know that that's not my stance, given our conversation a day or two ago. What I am saying is that there is immense value in this having happened as it lays bare the pre-existing corruption in the market for all to see. And this is HUGE in regard to the development of Green in a more widespread sense. It wakes people up a bit more because it gives the average person a peek behind the curtain of the corruption in the stock market... and the fallacious myth that there is truly a meritocratic "free market". And it also shows the average person that there is strength in numbers when it comes to fighting against said Orange corruption. And perhaps, now that average people have been shown en masse that they can play the same game as hedge funds, that these outlets of market fuckery will be closed to both royal and peasant alike. OR the government will step in and do something really anti-peasant and authoritarian which would also show the average person that the system stacked against them... thus waking the general populace up even more to deeper levels of class consciousness and the awareness of the class warfare already being waged at them constantly. Also, even though this is much more destructive... the MAGA thing is helpful in the big picture too, as it shows people more about how propaganda works and how human beings respond to it. And it also gives our system a stress test. I know I've woken up a lot politically in response to this whole Trump situation... and I know I'm not the only one. It has politicized an otherwise politically unaware facet of society... the sleeping Green. I think it will prove to be integral in the process of human evolution. And now, we will be much more aware and prepared the next time the threat of Fascist take-over rears its ugly head. I know I was blindsided in 2016... as were many others. Now, it won't be such a surprise to those who oppose it. So, I stand by what I said... If you're really operating from a Tier 2 position, then you would recognize how positive this turn of events is towards the development of human society along the spectrum laid out in the Spiral Dynamics model... NOT because "Yay! We get to manipulate the market too!" but because it's been illuminating to the games already being played with the market and how it is stacked in the favor of elites. That's why this situation is a net win for society at large... and I celebrate it as such.

But he was saying that his teachings are for a tiny slice of the population. That's why I was taking him to task for it.

Then you should make your teachings private so you can screen your audience for those who are conscious enough. If your teachings are only for a small slice of the population, why are they out on YouTube for everyone to see? If your teachings are for a tiny slice of the population, why allow 1 million plus subscribers to access them? But if you were truly operating from a space of consciousness with regard to Spiral Dynamics, you would recognize that you can't just skip Green... and that each rung of the ladder is contingent upon the stage before it. And you should see signs of Green as very promising and as a harbinger of human evolution... even if it is an expression of our evolutionary growing pains. In fact, we NEED to develop Green as a foundation for Yellow and Turquoise teachings. You can't skip a Spiral Dynamics stage. Skipping stages just means that we won't have the internal or external infrastructure for the ability to develop the stages thereafter. So, if you're really in favor of a Tier 2 society... then you would see the immense value in moving deeper into Stage Green. And part of that is the development of class consciousness and the ability to recognize that we, as average people, have been on the receiving end of class warfare... and that we can fight back through organizing against the powers that be. And this is the deeper value of this situation. If you were truly operating from a Tier 2 space with regard to this issue, you'd recognize that each stage on the spiral is integral for human evolution and the gradual unfolding of human potential. And if you think that will be a smooth process, then I suggest you take a peek at a history book at how we've gotten to the stage on the Spiral that we're currently at. The level of development that we currently have is the result of many ups and downs of human evolution: the good, the bad, and the ugly. And to think it will happen any differently is frankly naive.

But you can't just skip from Green to Yellow. That's not the way societal evolution works. The system is playing out exactly the way it needs to to evolve. Don't try to rush it. There will be no skipping of Green. So, let the wisdom of Green do its work.

You just have no vision for why this is so impactful, and how this can lead to big positive changes in weeding out the corruption and manipulation inherent in the way that things currently are. And you've said absolutely nothing about the corruption that this has laid bare for all to see. It's things like this Gamestop situation that make average people more conscious of the corruption in the system... which includes these hedge fund managers that contribute nothing of substance to society, but make money by tanking businesses and destroying jobs. Now, because of these "scummy" day-traders, regular people are seeing that the system is rigged and has always been rigged in favor of Wall Street. And we can watch and see how quickly the rules are changed for them. With the Robinhood App halting trading, they're doing the equivalent of flipping the chess board once the elites start to lose. And so many people are seeing this and recognizing that average people have real power when they organize. And that's huge! So, don't go into some classist anti-peasant nonsense where you get selectively outraged at the peasantry doing things that the owner class has been doing the whole time. If you give it a shoulder-shrug when hedge fund managers are doing it, I expect the same response when average people start doing it. Otherwise, it's just selective outrage and a reflection of your personal biases. Recognize this for the force of change that it is, and don't get upset when a group of people that are subject to constant class warfare actually fight back and actually play the game that's been rigged against them and win. Can't you see that this has thrown a bit of a monkey-wrench in the corruption machine?

Being racist is what happens when someone projects their own Shadow onto a whole group of people that they consider "other." It is what happens people are unconscious... they project onto large groups of people as a result of that unconsciousness. But it isn't an inherent aspect of human nature. So, don't go excusing unconscious behavior because you think it's just the way that human beings are... because you're conveniently leaving out the fact that human beings are capable of being more conscious and forming deep bonds with people of any race or nationality. Basically, don't excuse your own unconsciousness and pass it off as "nature."

Oh just stop it with your gaslighting of @Preety_India. You know that calling someone "brown mouth" is degrading. It's racist. Period. Stop antagonizing.

I don't think so. I think they recognize the possibility of average people banding together and using the mega-wealthy's own medicine against them. And cracking down on Reddit simply won't address this issue at a deep enough level to secure the interests of the owner class. It's like cutting off one of the heads of a Hydra. Crack down on Reddit and a thousand other anonymous communities like it will pop up JUST for the purpose of playing this game. And now that this is a well-known phenomena TONS of people will be interested in doing it. So, there will absolutely need to be legislation passed if the goal is to protect the money and power of the owner class... which it is. This will happen fast.