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@zikzak I tried sorting and it didn't agree with me, gave me a sore throat and runny nose. I done 35mg sorted and it was not strong enough. I'm hoping to get my 5meo from a different source next time, maybe that might help.

@Leo Gura how about you do a ''self inquiry part 2'' video, for advanced inquiry. when you talk about inquiry, it does be about the beginning stages when you are asking questions and trying to work things out through thought.

@zikzak you are wasting your time and 5meo with them small doses, do 70mg next time. I also get sea sickness and unease, but it goes away after 15mins I done 70mg today, it was strong, but if I had enough 5meo I'd do a higher dose. I have done high doses of freebase too, but prefor the hcl, because it lasts longer and I feel I get more insight from it

25mg freebase vaporized. i started off with 35mg hcl, and just kept going up.

for me to get a breakthrough with hcl plugged i need to do 70mg. 25mg freebase

@Huz I done about 1000 hours of meditation, had one awakening, and done nn-dmt a few times before i done 5meo. i wasnt putting off 5meo, i just never heard of it until recently. if you want to work your way up to it, do some nn dmt or other drug. but for me 5meo is not about surrender, as i have no choice whether to surrender or not, im just catapulted out of existence and dont have the option to resist.

this is basic self inquiry as thought by ramana maharshi and nisargadatta maharaj. although i think these are the best videos i have seen on the practice

have you used it yourself? I have done it about 10 times, it has reduced my sense of self alot, as in less identification with thoughts, also the feeling of being a separate self has reduced. more of an expended sense of self, these things result in less suffering. also i think of a result of 5meo i get glimpses of this '' no thing '' people talk about. i think the most beneficial effect of it is it reduces the feeling of being a separate self, the reason we have the experience of being a separate self is because we feel like a separate self. only negative is i get hangovers from it, but i use alot. some people say its scary, i never found that i enjoy it.

I dont find the 5meo experience to be as dramatic and profound as some do. one thing i learned from doing it today is, your true nature cant be worked out by thought, no thing is too subtle, it cant be thought. silence and taking attention away from objects is the best way.

I'd prefer to smoke it than snort cos it's alot more intense. Anybody ever done it and went for a walk, if not I recommend it, it's an experience to say the least

I noticed it about a week a ago, it was very ordinary like nothing had changed, today the significance of it is starting to dawn on me. Like how experience comes from and goes back to nothing, and that only being exists, there is no such thing as not being (outside world)

I think i am after becoming aware of this no thing, its extremely subtle almost unnoticeable. there is a subtle feeling/understanding that i am not any experience, I am what knows experience. a subtle feeling/understanding that experience is surrounded by clear, transparent emptiness. based on this experience i would say the most effective way to see this is self inquiry as thaught by ramana maharshi, the experience you have when you ask yourself 'who am i' is almost identical to this seeing

I found these 4 videos very good, and related to what we are talking about here

@Loreena you cant surrender, because there is no you to surrender, surrender either happens or it doesnt. its like in a dream, the dream character cant decide to cross the road because the dream character doesnt really exist, in the dream crossing the road either happens or it doesnt. I wouldnt advocate to stop practices though, I notice even though i intellectually know there is no one here, i cant stop seeking.

my understanding of this is, you want to focus on your non conceptual sense of being, the non conceptual sense of being is an object, but its the most subtle object there is. you are not the non conceptual sense of being, you are one step back from that, eventually when you become clear enough on the non conceptual sense of being you will see how that is being perceived.

one thing i find hard to understand is, teachers will tell you, you are emptiness nothingness, the perceiver that cant be perceived. but if it cant be perceived, how are they aware of it, and how are they able to tell you about it.

how much freebase 5meo would you need to smoke for a breakthrough?

would you need a needle for the syringe to suck up the liquid or can a neediless syringe suck it up

@Psychonaut have you had a break through with plugging, how much water would you use, and how do you get the liquid into the syringe?

whats the administration method for plugging, do you have to use a syringe?

@Leo Gura or anybody else who might know, can HCL be taken any other way apart from snorting, snorting gave me a runny nose and sore throat.

@Nahm over the last year the more i inquire and mediate, the more apparent and deeper the seeing becomes. the deeper and more apparent it becomes i feel a physical change in my body, alot more relaxed and not as flustered by life. plus when i had this change in experience the mind become alot more quiet

@Scholar about a year ago I had a permanent change in experience, were i seen that there is no controller of thoughts and the body, its a subtle change in experience. the first 2 thoughts that came to my mind were 'I cant believe how simple this is, and this is the way it has always been i just never seen it'. I was only meditating a few months when this happened, I was on a high for about 3 days when this happened. if this is what happened to you it wont go away its permanent, but its far from being enlightenment

in my experience inquiry will be boring and repetitive until you have some kind of awakening, then everyday is a new adventure

what does it mean for self inquiry to be being based??