Joseph Maynor

I just watched a great movie about the capture of Adolf Eichmann in the theater that I recommend. It’s called Operation Finale, released in 2018. It should still be in the theaters now. I saw it like a week ago. Definitely worth watching if you have the time. I thought it was worth it, and it made me do some research on Eichmann and do some reflecting. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Finale https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem

Definitely. I think everybody is wrapped up in this. Ego just is all these distractions — it’s distractions where you lose sense of your true Self. And we allow ourselves to be lured by the Devil Distractions a.k.a. Thought and Experience. That’s what Ego is: distractions of Awareness within Thought and Experience so you forget who you really are. And you think you’re doing a good thing by embracing Thought and Experience, but you just cause yourself a lot of unnecessary suffering at the end of the day by doing so. We do it to ourselves because we don’t want to accept who we really are. Egoic distractions allow us to forget the Truth temporarily; but that inauthenticity has a price to be paid in suffering over the short and long term. When you dance with the Devil don’t complain that you get burned — and you will get burned a lot — that’s what Hell a.k.a. Samsara is.

Stage Coral transcends Thought and Experience and fully realizes the true Self, which is all alone.

That’s a stretch Leo. Forget about logic for a moment. Jordan Peterson is no Hitler. That’s a bizarre comparison you’re making, not me. I think Jordan Peterson means well and I don’t think he’s a bad person at all. Hey — there’s two knobs on the radio right, on and off. Nobody is forcing anybody to listen to Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson is not waging war and killing people — maybe metaphorically you could argue that, but not literally. But, yeah, to compare those two is a bit off and I never intended to make such a comparison logic or no logic. Jordan Peterson is a personal development teacher like you are right? Is that such an evil thing? If that’s evil, I think we need to coin a new word for the real thing.

There’s no ‘relative truth’. There’s your opinions (Thoughts) which are not relative truths. Nothing wrong with opinions per se, but I wouldn’t try to clothe your Thought as ‘relative truths’. That’s a sneaky Egoic rationalization to remain attached to your Thought and Experience. There’s only one Truth, and it has nothing to do with Thought or Experience. I think this is an important issue, and I’ve actually thought a lot about this recently. I’ve realized that ‘relative truth’ doesn’t exist at worst and is a misnomer at best. It’s sneaky for the Ego to think that what it’s doing is dealing in truths, see. That gets it off the hook. It’s a very subtle Egoic rationalization. It’s creating a phantom ‘truth’ in order to make the Ego feel justified and safe within its Thought and Experience. The most deceptive thing the Ego can do is redefine ‘truth’ in its own favor! — or at least to try to make room within the notion of ‘truth’ to include itself.

Say what you want about Jordan Peterson, he’s done a fine job of executing his Life Purpose Work, you gotta admit. Now whether that brings him an end to his suffering or not is a different issue. Enlightenment Work and Life Purpose Work can be at odds and it’s tricky to find the right balance to resolve them. But Peterson has created his own dream career. From a Life Purpose standpoint he gets an ‘A’, no? Think about it. Give him that one. He had the balls to successfully do what he wanted to do with his work, and he’s achieved massive success at least on paper. I don’t think he’s happy though, quite the contrary. Neurotically trying to change the world is not an avenue to happiness, which is something I now understand that I didn’t quite understand before. Don’t hate the player, hate the game — and actually you don’t wanna hate the game either. Think about all the time you’re wasting and all the suffering you’re causing yourself criticizing Jordan Peterson. At the end of the day, I wish Jordan Peterson well, I think he means well. But I wouldn’t want his life or his job. But he probably wouldn’t want mine either.

Ego is best understood as forgetting yourself as God Awareness by getting lured into becoming embedded in Maya a.k.a Thought and Experience. ‘Ego’ is more synonymous with ‘distraction’ than most people realize. Distraction is the Devil that lures God to forget Himself and enter Hell a.k.a. Samsara a.k.a. Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience.

People are only relativistic on matters that don't concern themselves. Then they can safely be relativistic. But the moment something concerns them watch their relativism fly out the window. It's easy to play the role of the relativist when you don't have any skin in the game. Then you can deny responsibility and play the relativist card easily, right. But nobody is truly a relativist when they themselves are implicated in something. I've never seen it, and I think it's total B.S. It's easy to be a relativist when it comes to other people because you have no skin in the game. And don't pretend that Enlightened people are relativists either, that's not true. Relativism is a sneaky, apathetic, Ego move to deny taking responsibility for something that you don't have direct skin in the game on. It's a cop-out basically, a rationalization.

Great example. But would Jesus allow what happened if he could stop it? Or would he tell himself to stop whining already and just go chill out. Jesus is kind of a tricky example because it's not clear what the Ontological status of Jesus is. Jesus could just very well be almost completely fiction. And you could do anything with fiction. In fiction, I could have a guy chop off his own member and fry it up and eat it with fava beans with a smile on his face.

It is if you willingly stay in Hell after you know the way out. (1) God is the true Self, which is God Awareness, the only 'thing' that actually exists. (2) Heaven is God Awareness fully groking that it's the only thing that actually exists, and that it exists outside Maya a.k.a. outside Thought and Experience. Heaven is also grokking that Maya can't hurt God Awareness because it's an illusion, in other words, Thought and Experience are an illusion that can't hurt God Awareness in any way. (3) The Devil is the seductor that tries to lure God Awareness into forgetting that He's God and losing Himself by enmeshment into Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience. Another way to think of the Devil is as Triggers into Maya a.k.a. Triggers into Thought and Experience. (4) Hell is when your Awareness loses sight of the fact (or never knew the fact in the first place) that it's the only thing that actually exists and becomes enmeshed within the illusion of Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience. This is what causes all suffering; namely, when Awareness gets enmeshed in illusory Maya a.k.a. illusory Thought and Experience. This is not simply analogous to being caught in a bad dream and waking up with your heart pounding out of your chest. This is being caught in any dream at all, even positive ones, and not just when you're sleeping. All enmeshment in Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience just is Samsara, which leads to Dukkha (suffering).

Yes. Samsara is what I call being in Hell. (1) God is the true Self, which is God Awareness, the only 'thing' that actually exists. (2) Heaven is God Awareness fully groking that it's the only thing that actually exists, and that it exists outside Maya a.k.a. outside Thought and Experience. Heaven is also grokking that Maya can't hurt God Awareness because it's an illusion, in other words, Thought and Experience are an illusion that can't hurt God Awareness in any way. (3) The Devil is the seductor that tries to lure God Awareness into forgetting that He's God and losing Himself by enmeshment into Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience. Another way to think of the Devil is as Triggers into Maya a.k.a. Triggers into Thought and Experience. (4) Hell is when your Awareness loses sight of the fact (or never knew the fact in the first place) that it's the only thing that actually exists and becomes enmeshed within the illusion of Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience. This is what causes all suffering; namely, when Awareness gets enmeshed in illusory Maya a.k.a. illusory Thought and Experience. This is not simply analogous to being caught in a bad dream and waking up with your heart pounding out of your chest. This is being caught in any dream at all, even positive ones, and not just when you're sleeping. All enmeshment in Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience just is Samsara, which leads to Dukkha (suffering).

Enlightenment is Awareness (You) slowly pulling yourself out of Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience. Once you see Maya for what it is, that's when you reach Awareness of God a.k.a. Awareness of You. That's where you become God. That's where God Awareness emerges on the Enlightenment path. Post-Enlightenment, your life will be put into complete perspective alright hehe -- you'll realize your life and everything around you is a total illusion. Enlightenment goes way beyond self-improvement, see -- Enlightenment will cause you to jump a paradigm from self-improvement up a level that you don't even know exists yet. Get ready for the mindf*ck of all mindf*cks. Giving real Enlightenment advice is not a way to make friends and influence people haha, I can tell you that right now -- quite the contrary actually and naturally so! You're basically telling everybody that everything they value is a total illusion. A real Enlightenment teacher would probably be killed in the old days, and that's not surprising. You're turning the value of life, reality, and thought on its ear. To be an Enlightenment teacher who's palatable to the masses, you kinda have to be a Spiritual Ego or at least pretend like you're one, and you dirty your God Awareness when you do that, see. Enlightenment is the total death of everything you think exists and everything you think is worthwhile. The biggest Spiritual Ego is the one pointing out other Spiritual Egos. You still don't realize that Everything is you. There's nothing but you as Awareness getting entangled in Maya -- that's all there is. There's nothing but you as Awareness refusing to allow Maya to die. You're inflating a bunch of balloon animals and then pretending that they all have personalities and life in them and such. What you don't understand yet is that you're the only thing that exists, and you're all alone. You couldn't take that huh. See? It's You the Awareness that's entangled and distracted within Maya that's the only Ego. This is the only way it could be because it's all you. You're not ready for my insight. That's ok, nobody is. It will find you, you don't find it!

It would be a world that collapses into one Consciousness. In other words, the only world that exists is Me. It would be a world of one God Awareness looking down on and through Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience.

The only award you get is when you finally realize you're the only thing that exists and that you're talking to yourself. And it's a bittersweet award that nobody wants (no Egoic self wants). The Ego (Lures into Maya a.k.a. Thoughts and Experience) will do everything it can to draw you away from that insight. But once you have it, you can't unsee it. It's in there now even though your Awareness will still get distracted by Thought and Experience. That's the power of an awakening experience. But there's gotta be a takeaway there. One of the things I've always been great at is implementing my insights, my takeaways, and I attribute my growth to that on the Path. A lot of people have these great insights and never takeaway anything from them. Enlightenment is about having an insight and then never being the same in some sense after it. You gotta trust your own insights and run with them, but also don't cling tightly to them because you also expect that they will change. Thinking that you've arrived in Enlightenment Work is a way to set yourself up for a real mindf*ck when you have another awakening, another profound realization or shift. And I've had so many shifts now that I just don't assume anything. But I walk my insights to death after I have them. I milk them for all the juice they have.

Becoming God means that all Experience and Thoughts must die, not just the Egoic self. They all burn into the illusion of Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience. The only thing that actually exists is God Awareness a.k.a. the true Self right now. I think the biggest trap in Enlightenment Work is refusing to face the fact that you are all alone in existence and that everything you care deeply about in Experience and Thought is a total illusion (dead). Nobody wants to face that. And actually what happens is you don't face it, it comes after you. In other words, the awakening may occur to you sometime in the future, and then you won't be able to unsee it.

I like to use both words for different purposes. I like to use 'Consciousness' to reference the fact that everything is inside my Consciousness. Other than this use, I avoid using the word Consciousness. I like to refer to 'God Awareness' as the true Self. 'Awareness' without the 'God' modifier is an Awareness that doesn't yet realize it's the only thing that actually exists. And Awareness does not include 'Maya' which is Experience and Thought. God Awareness looks down on and through Maya a.k.a. Experience and Thought.

I like to use both words for different purposes. I like to use 'Consciousness' to reference the fact that everything is inside my Consciousness. Other than this use, I avoid using the word Consciousness. I like to refer to 'God Awareness' as the true Self. 'Awareness' without the 'God' modifier is an Awareness that doesn't yet realize it's the only thing that actually exists. And Awareness does not include 'Maya' which is Experience and Thought. God Awareness looks down on and through Maya a.k.a. Experience and Thought.

Exactly. I think along similar lines.

This is true, but the problem is if you don't have the keen Awareness to fully see Ego, how can you avoid it? It takes quite a bit of work to get to the point where you fully know what Ego is. Sure, from the Perspective of Enlightened Stage Coral, your sentiment rings true without any further explanation needed. The statement you made is like Michael Jordan telling everybody that playing basketball is super easy.

Make sure the rest of your life is solidly handled and then you can go to work very mindfully. You can be mindful that you're playing a game. Make sure you're meditating every day for 1 hour in the morning. That's the most important habit you can have next to getting 8-9 hours of sleep per night. Don't be against work -- we all need to work. But don't attach too much to it either. Look at work as a vehicle for you bringing home food like a smart lion brings home food to his pride. A smart lion or lioness doesn't bring home a huge surplus of food. No, they bring home exactly what's needed by the pride of lions, no more no less. So, don't get too attached to career. Career is something that you must do in order to survive, but it's not something you should be too focused on. Money can't solve all your problems. And in fact, the few problems that money can solve are dwarfed by the many problems that having money causes! Most things you spend money on are not needed by you and are actually harming you. The things you need you have when you have no money. There's a small subset of things that money can genuinely help you with such as: buying a clean wardrobe, buying organic food, having a nice place to live, making sure your body is nice and clean, making sure you get to the doctor or the dentist, making sure you have a little nest egg saved away. But after this, chasing money is a poor use of your time. The best use of your time is to do nothing at all -- to just maintain God Awareness.

They have fewer cultural distractions that the rest of us do. Therefore, if they're smart they have less of a minefield to cross than we do. But my view is it's best to achieve high-culture and then renounce it. You need both horns of that paradox to become the most Spiritually advanced. The problem with low-culture people is they don't know what they don't got, and that can lead to a lot of very sophomoric traps. The electrician doesn't appreciate the breadth and depth of Electromagnetic Theory like the Electrical Engineer does. You can't skip Conceptual Understanding Work in Enlightenment Work.

Jordan Peterson shows that it's not just chasing money that leads to unhappiness, it's also chasing teaching/changing the world that does as well. Neurotically trying to change the world through a single perspective. Think about it -- how's that any less neurotic than trying to amass great wealth through a single perspective? In a way it's kinda the same thing. It's you trying to control Experience. See, the thought never crosses people's minds, what if I transcend Experience instead of trying to change it? And suffering is caused by entanglement in Experience and also by entanglement in Thought. The day you realize Liberation is you sitting around with nothing to do will be a major insight. Happiness, interestingly enough, is doing nothing. I totally understand now why people become Buddhist monks. Just having a job puts you asshole-to-bellybutton with trying to control Experience. The happiest you're ever gonna be is when you're maintaining God Awareness and looking down on and through Experience and Thought as illusory Maya. But oh no we can't do that because we need to be 'successful' right? Well, that's a Thought you're clinging to for sure. What's it gonna matter on your deathbed? You can't take anything with you. See, the only thing that's of true value is happiness right now. So, under the right circumstances and training, it's the person who does nothing in life that ends up the happiest in life.

Science is not a waste of time. Learn everything. That’s how you get into the Tier-Two Stages of Spiral Dynamics: Science, Art, Spirituality, Philosophy, Systems Thinking, Technology, etc. That’s what gets you into Stage Yellow and Stage Turquoise. Stages Turquoise and Coral (more so Coral than Turquoise) are only possible when you have a huge knowledge background that can then be transcended. But you can’t transcend what you ain’t got see. This is why a lot of people never make it to Stage Yellow — they aren’t intellectual enough. You gotta be Yellow first before you can be Turquoise and Coral. You can’t go from Green to Coral, although a lot of people probably fantasize about that. That’s because Coral understands exactly what they’re transcending and why. You gotta go through Yellow which is the systemic thinker and then Turquoise which is the synergistic collaborator first. Both Yellow and Turquoise are very advanced stages for Conceptual Understanding Work. Coral doesn’t lose that background, it just sees Thought differently than the other stages do. Coral begins to see the distraction aspect of Thought very keenly. But Coral can’t be Coral without going through all the lower stages first. You gotta be super Yellow and then super Turquoise before Coral even emerges in your consciousness.

All the ways of conceptualizing Enlightenment are like getting 100 cab drivers to write an essay on how to drive a car. Now, you’re given those 100 essays. What do you make of them? Do you get lost in them? Do you take notes on them? Do you form a religion out of them? What use to you are those 100 essays when you sit down to actually drive a car yourself?

I didn’t like it before but I find it useful now. I’ve had some growth between then and now. I don’t have to use it, it just fits very well. Stage Coral is where true Spirituality emerges so the religious language fits very well from a utilitarian standpoint. It’s almost impossible for me to not use religious words now. A lot of my earlier Stage Turquoise values, beliefs, and terminology has radically changed recently since I’ve been moving into Stage Coral. I’m not the same person as I was before, for better or for worse.