Joseph Maynor

The conversation was very defensive on both sides.

I watched the entire video. I thought it was a good conversation. I appreciate disagreement as the norm actually just because we are all so different, and it is refreshing to see two people talking past each other but speaking different languages. You both are very interesting but very different personalities. It makes me wonder if there is a common language that we can all agree on to engage reality with, hmm. Our egos are so very different, and everyone has one! I appreciate the focus on results, but I also prefer the gentle touch of sharing instead of teaching, but then again my life coaching business doesn't make me any money. At the same time, results do matter. You can't start a successful business without someone wanting to pay you. I get that too. You kinda have to make someone feel like they need your product or service to get them to want to pay you money to relate with them. On the flipside, this can skew you to have a persona of frame controlling people in a specific subject area to believe you are the deliverer of what they secretly want, and you might be wearing that hat, which to a degree is a persona. I see this in a lot of spiritual teachers who are always in teacher mode. You can't just let your hair down and be a normal dude because you are chasing credibility and trying to hold a persona together to be a such and such to a so and so. I get that! I don't see that as bad necessarily. But breaking out of persona is kind of like a lawyer forgetting he is a lawyer when he comes home to the wife, kids, and friends after work. This is hard for many people to do.

@LordFall You said you were an INTP. You remind me a lot of Leo. I guess he is an INTP too. Good talk. Watching now. @yetineti Nice guitar!

This is a really deep question and probably not appreciated to the extent it can be.

I have 3 horns, a pro trumpet, a really high quality student horn, and a cornet. I play all three. I play piano, but I am not a piano player.

There seems to a sort of taboo about admitting the death of relationship. Although everyone knows about this in their own direct experience.

It is different than that lol.

Do you still relate with everyone you had a relationship with in the past?

If you have had someone leave you, you know how this works on the other end too. I think it is natural. We are not required to relate with the same people indefinitely. Relationship is more complex than this. And everyone does this too -- even if they do not want to admit it!

There is ghosting which used to solve this issue back in the day. I'm sure most people have done this at least once.

I would suggest the question here to consider is a much more practical one -- who do you want to spend your time with? There is a tendency to get real abstract here.

The Self is commonly criticized and thought of as ego inflation too, you will encounter this.

This right now is also theory. But it is a good pointer.

I think what happens is many relationships run their course where both persons are taking each other for granted and there isn't enough novelty to adjust for that. This is very common. You can try to work on distancing, but then that becomes an issue because a relationship requires being in it.

Sometimes you need to turn the page and begin a new chapter for the sake of both of you.

It also seems to be taboo to create spiral stages beyond Turquoise in my experience. Many people will react to this not well. I give anyone props who propose stages beyond Turquoise.

Who is dodging Truth. This gets deep.

This is a really taboo subject too. Almost all people have insanity in their shadow. Especially if your ego wants or needs to identify with being sober and sane. To say one should integrate the insane would sound like fighting words to many people.

It is kind of taboo because it is seen as a stage purple shadow or an aspect of premodernity.

Notice how magic and imagination sound similar. Someone needs to do a good video on this topic.

It is not really funny though. It is a power move.

This also applies if you know someone a long time too.

Am I the only one who hates texting?

But when you are in a relationship responsibility does not work the same way as when you apply it to yourself. It is more complex and involves trust, which varies.