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The borders won’t change and there won’t be a declaration of a Palestinian country. You can’t reward a kid for bad behavior.

@Nivsch You’re too kind.. @Twentyfirst This is an example of a person that is justifying rape, kidnapping of babies and murder of the innocent. Your mind is too twisted to have a single rational thought so I would not take the time to explain how far you’re from the truth.

@Karmadhi Is it the first time that you saw a war? Did you ever think maybe you’re getting it all wrong?

@Leo Gura I remember you posted why the cemeteries in Gaza were destroyed..Here is the answer. source: https://www.foxnews.com/world/israeli-forces-destroy-hamas-tunnel-system-built-under-cemetery-idf-says.amp

I think the Gazanians celebrated too early. There is nothing to break free from. Israel wasn’t in control of Gaza before the 7th of October. Keep trying to justify their horrific massacred. When all of you focusing on the micro. This is the real players.

Instead of appreciating the knowledge I shared with you, you continue with your propaganda. I’ll continue with my explanation, hopefully you will learn to appreciate it. “Hamas runs an office in Qatar's capital, Doha, and leaders Ismail Haniyeh, Moussa Abu Marzuk and Khaled Mashal maintain a luxurious lifestyle. They have been seen at its diplomatic club, photographed on private jets, and traveled widely. The leadership would have been there for the 2022 soccer World Cup.“ - NYpost. “Turkey provides financial and logistical support to Hamas, which is a considered a terrorist organization by much of the West. Turkey hosts senior Hamas officials, including Saleh al-Arouri. Hamas head Ismail Haniyeh and former chief Khaled Meshal visit Turkey often.“ VOAnews.

@Karmadhi Thanks for trying to simplify the issue. The main thing is that this conflict was never between Gazans/Palanstinians and Israel. It’s between big terror organizations(Iran, Qatar, Russia, Turkey) and Israel. Israel cannot show any weakness against the 10/7 attack because they fear their real enemies will explode it. The real conflict is about having a Western ally in the Middle East. They are afraid on Israel making progressive effect over other countries in the region. (Already did with UAE and the Saudis). That’s the reason I kept saying to look on the macro. Obviously there is something much bigger happening than just a piece of land. I hope now you understand better why Israel has Western support(They are fighting for them). Ukraine is on the same boat. Btw Gaza had an airport in the past but it lost it because of continuous terror attacks. About the solution. Enlightenment is the answer. My estimation is in 80-100 years😎

@Danioover9000 Thank you for your analysis/Judgment. You’re extremely helpful for this sub. What do you guys think about the future of this conflict? Will Hezbolla start a war in northern Israel? Will Israel attack in Qatar/Iran?(I think it’s about time) Do you think Egypt cooperating with Hamas?(obviously most the the weapons is getting from there). Will Israel attack there too? I believe in the next few months Israel will see normalization with the Saudis. And somehow will get their assistance of supervision on Gaza.

Lol @Danioover9000 God bless you

@Raze Let’s agree to disagree🙏 Please stop using this platform to promote your agenda. Showing only one side of the story. Emphasizing how bad is the other side. Imagine that someone broke into your house burned your house, raped your wife and kidnapped your children. How would you behave?

I liked this metaphor 🔝

@Leo Gura Please ban @Raze Citing things from Al Jazeera is like showing things from Israel channel 14(The extreme right). Again you are not being objective and biased. For some reason I am not surprised.

Most of the anti Jews are listening to opinions rather than facts. Instead of watching the entire 30-60 minutes video they pin point about 10 secs and misinterpret in purpose. Media is clearly on the Islamic side because there are 2 billions Islamic people verses 15 millions Jews. Not to talk about TikTok who is controlled by China(Obviously they are on the terrorist side). Focus on facts. See the world as it is. Less than a hundred years ago, terror organization killed 50% of the Jews. Than proceeded with killing almost 100 million people. Jews are in a danger of extinction. Anti semitism is in all time high. Yes it’s almost impossible to be unbiased when your life depends on it.

@Danioover9000 Bro I can clearly see how emotional you’re about this topic..You keep publishing cherry picking of information and look micro rather than macro. You keep brainwashing yourself with YT Islamic content and then you get mad with us not agreeing with you. You are not here to discuss. You are here to show how wrong the other side is and criticizing us. You need to be honest with yourself and ask what are you trying to do here. You lead to war instead of finding common ground.

@Danioover9000 This guy might help you here

@Danioover9000 Lol obviously you agree with a guy named Hassan and hate Ben Shapiro. Bro some honesty wouldn’t hurt you. You hate Jews.

As I said it can both serve or deserve you. You can be a spoiled brat like most or use it for your advantage. If you come from nothing most likely you won’t be spoiled and you will work hard. I come from an upper class family but my dad doesn’t spoiled us so it was for our advantage.

@Leo Gura Please ban @Danioover9000 This guy does nothing but publishing propaganda. It’s a discussion not a publication of your agenda.

May I ask how many of you consider themselves religious? @Bobby_2021 @Danioover9000 @zazen @Karmadhi

Because the war is still going on. I am actually really optimistic about the future of Gaza. I think it will be under the right leadership and will be focused on creating value to the world.

Thank you for proving my statement. It doesn’t matter what extremists want. Bottom line, they are allowed to go back.

@Leo Gura Can we create some sort of evidence based discussion here? If someone can’t provide a proof to what they write, We can stop him of further participation. The issue I have with free speech is misinformation. And of course promoting terror organizations.

IDF notify Gazanians ahead of time to evacuate, example is northern Gaza, to eliminate Hamas facilities and infrastructure. This alone shows their effort to avoid massacre. This is not the first/last time IDF have been doing that. When they finished, they allow them to go back. As I said before, war is sad and painful. Innocent do die in war. On both sides. Currently Hamas has Israeli babies on his possession so please stop comparing between the two. This will continue the conflict and disagreement here. I wish we can brain storm a solution here instead of repeating lies and blaming the other side.

Finally we can agree. Some of the survivals mentioned they were kept within citizens houses. So obviously not only Hamas is guilty. IDF is doing an extremely hard work to separate the guilty and the innocent. Unfortunately it’s not always perfect..

I saw nothing but an opinion. No facts at all. If Israel would try to kill civilians it would be done a long time ago.