Valach

Then we wonder why we have no woman engaging here.

Ye, yea. Comparing woman to food. You clearly do not care and do not derive sense of self worth from her.

I think there is another layer to validation that you're missing here. Not needing validation from one particular woman doesn't necessarily mean that your self-worth isn't organized around validation more broadly. I've known very attractive women who had enormous dating abundance. They genuinely didn't care much if one particular guy rejected them, because there were ten other guys interested in them. On the surface they looked completely non-needy and independent of male validation. But after getting to know some of them deeply, it became obvious that they were still very insecure about their worth. They had simply externalized that worth into their attractiveness and desirability. Their security came partly from knowing that they could get attention, rather than from not needing that attention as a foundation for their worth. So there's an important distinction between: "I don't need this particular person to validate me." and "I don't need my identity as a desirable person to validate me." You can be completely unfazed by one woman withdrawing attention while still being deeply invested in being the kind of man who has money, status, options, and access to highly attractive women.

`Then show off your self awarness and tell me truthfully. Why do you desire "abundant" dating life?

Fair enough. I can't prove it though as I have just my personal experiences with helping guys around their dating life and emotional issues sorounding them. But you can easily see the insecurity in the way people post around here. Like one post will be "I live in abundance and enjoy it so much etc.", the next post from the same person will be "Should I do thing X to appear more attractive to others - be it looks, game, social media, some dating strategy" - it always has the same root - insecurity and shame - sense of not being good enough,

How am I projecting? You had multiple instances on this forum with me, @Natasha Tori Maru, @Zenterus (sorry for the pings) and many others where whenever someone disagress with you you default to "You are projecting/spiritually bypassing/not living in enough abundance and I am right". There are many of such topics on the forum around this. This is not discussion about monogamy or polygamy. That in itself is a very complicated debate as well.

You know I used to look up to him. He has his value for sure but it's just not good material if you want to eventually build healthy relationships.

Which is an argument which you basically try to use with everyone who does not operate within your paradigm.

Most of striving for abundance is fear based in itself in my opinion as well.

Then he goes on in his videos about how every woman is BPD and will cheat. I mean duh if this is your crowd.

Because most of the time is fear based behaviour. It is fear of intimacy, fear of not being good enough, fear of being rejected. I can sense it in the way they talk and they behave in their dating life very easily. I am not sure about Logan Paul or Mike Majlak, I have no idea who they are.

I have seen way more often men sabotage their relationships by keeping their options open and dating around instead of exploring connection they have in front of them. Especially in the pickup communities which the OP does.

Top notch answer. Thank you for that.

Getting to know the person on deep level, being vulnerable with your truth with them in order to find out if both parties are compatible to build a life together. The "intention" behind is that you are aiming for relationship.

You can screen her and get to know her via dating intentionally, not need to put up barriers and artificial timelines.

I mean, you talk about some tough game all the time on the forum. And then you open a post like this that just reeks of insecurity. It is really for contemplation why do you care about such stuff as guys laughing at you etc. But to the topic... How did you decide she is "relationships" material for you? Based on what? You are attracted to her, that is important, but besides that? And what is your long term vision for your life? In general and in regards to relationships? Body count in itself is a complicated topic. I went through phases of being really insecure and caring about it, then not caring at all to now some sort of middle ground. Why does it matter to you?

If that is all you care about, enjoy life I guess.

You could keep the condescending approach to yourself and do some self inquiry before you respond.

Of course. Research attachment theory.

What a ragebait

Yes but negotation in the sake of wellbeing of both parties. Not threats such as "I will leave if you do not do as I desire".

But relationships are not some negotiation table like in business. Not the healthy ones at very least. That is the core problem of this.

Dude why do you keep talking to me like I do not know pickup. I have been engaged for a long time in it. There are different modalities of pickup, some are more healthy, some less. But this is a bad habbit to pickup if you want to lead healthy relationship. This is not abundance, this is avoidance. Instead of resolving the conflict you threaten breakup, she is insecure (surprise) so she leans back into it. Any healthy woman would just walk away. Either resolve the conflict like a mature human or decide that she is not aligned with you enough for you to invest energy and break up with her. That is real abundance. This is just masked neediness. Real abundance would be if you were able to walk away from a relationship knowing that you will not get another one.

That is not true abundance. Abundance is another "technique" pickup invented anyways. Be careful.

Yes, but I can recognize unhelpful energy without studying it deeply.