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Funny, I just looked his upcoming talk in San Francisco which is going for $200. I’m more curious in seeing what kind of people actually go to these talks rather than him.

Doesn’t sound pretty deep but I definitely had a laugh out of my own surprise to hear tell Joe most of what people call yoga isn’t yoga. Then again, he’s pretty private with his experiences like with his history with psychedelics and smoking weed (which I imagine the lack of transparency has its drawback but is also something I can simultaneously appreciate) so maybe he’s had some stuff occur, whatever the depth of that profundity may be. Even though my guess would still be not that deep. He did have, what I found to be, a nice interjection regarding the nature of holons and that whole view.

Check out Kilindi Iyi (RIP stud) if you wanna hear from a guy whose gone as high as 40 grams (not a typo).

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Attachment is a very deep subject in both spirituality and psychology and the healing of our core attachment wounds improve both those separate lines of development (not confusing spiritual development for realization). This link stems from the work of Daniel P Brown whose has not only been the lead pioneer in attachment research in the world of psychology and psychotherapy but also an advanced Vajrayana Mahamudra that’s been trained by some of the best including the likes of the Dalai Lama. He’s written works like Transformations of Consciousness with Ken Wilber as well as his groundbreaking work Pointing Out The Great Way. The extent of his work though is really a magnum opus in itself so I won’t really do it justice. Anyways.. Many of you are probably kinda crazy like me. I have a lot of trauma but also was diagnosed with ADHD as early as 6 along and so forth. I notice some of you on here point out that you guys struggle with similar things and coincidentally that shows up as issues not just in day your meditation/spiritual practice but also your relationships and other behavioral patterns. One of the things that’s being found with ambiguous issues like ADHD for example is not just that it’s a multidimensional issues that likely doesn’t have just one source but that it’s also commonly rooted in things like attachment disorders/disturbances based on the 5 pillars that constitute healthy or unhealthy attachment but also things even like trauma and even prenatal trauma. Now trauma and attachment disorders aren’t really the same but they “interact” or relate. This has become an issue for many of us (particularly boys/guys/men) in this day in age due to the transformation that’s resulted in the modern and postmodern family system as it moved out of more traditional family systems prior to women joining the workforce and this children had less attention and nurturance that were too busy working (PLEASE RESIST THE TEMPTATION TO FALL INTO IDEOLOGICAL THINKING WITH THIS AS THATS NOT WHERE I’M COMING FROM). I imagine many of us don’t really notice this stuff because it’s become so normal at this point we don’t really see it unless we visit or interact with families in say the 3rd world like say in Tibet (I’ll get to them in a little bit) that don’t have the kind of neurotic dysfunctional family issues that we have here in the west (particularly in America). To highlight this I want to share some things that might illuminate this a bit more using both Tibet and Tibetan Buddhism. There’s a story from some time ago when the Dalai Lama was at a press conference and a Buddhist practitioner (I think it was actually Sharon Salzburg if I’m not mistaken) asked the Dalai Lama about self loathing. The Dalai Lama stopped the press conference for some minutes to speak to his translator. He then proceeded completely bewildered and spoke how Tibetan people don’t have that and how he couldn’t even comprehend why people would do that to themselves in that it was completely unheard of to him. Which isn’t really a tell tale sign about his enlightenment as much as it is a sign that that truly doesn’t exist in Tibet despite the suffering of many people there. It’s a cultural thing. You see, when Tibetan monks practice Loving Kindness in formal Tibetan Buddhism, you know what their practice is? They visualize their mother as their mother was perfectly loving for them. Those early healthy attachment bonds are in place in those early years and that’s really a cultural thing. Can you imagine how many westerners would struggle with such a practice? I know I would and I know I’m not alone as this is common in todays modern and postmodern world relative to the simplicity that comes within a traditional culture. I even notice the contrast in psychological temperament when I hangout with friends that grew up in more traditional upbringings (particularly eastern but even Christian too). Now, what are those 5 Pillars of Attachment? Safety Attunement (usually with the mother) Delight Affect Regulation A sense of support for being and becoming one’s unique best self. If you’d like more details into each of these pillars you can check out the following text in the following link: https://www.onlyyouforever.com/the-5-pillars-of-attachment/ So what do you do if you have any one of those needs or issues in any one of those 5 pillars? Well, here are some resources for you that stem from the work of Daniel P Brown. The first one I suggest is to go to the following link: https://www.attachmentproject.com/ There you can find therapeutic modules and resources to truly heal these wounds and attachment disturbances. They are incredibly affordable as, from what I recall seeing, being under $60. That’s a great deal in my opinion. The next one is what is called The Ideal Parent Visualization which Dan Brown actually guides that you can find here: https://www.integralsomaticawakening.com/resources The protocol for this practice is to do it right when you wake up. If you have a meditation practice you do first thing in the morning, do it before you start your usual practice. This practice is one that’s serves multiples purposes. First off, it’s of course about healing and cultivating core attachment wounds by visualizing (and you can really include the somatic field of your experience - this is big for me personally - if you’re not the best at visualization) perfect ideal parents that aren’t in the image of your biological parents and cultivate those core aspects in your own experience slowly over the course of weeks and really many months. Ultimately though this also evolves into a deeper spiritual practice where the goal is to eventually merge in union with the perfect parents in your visualization as it really is on par as a deity practice. Oops! Did I give that away?! Don’t worry about that though. That’ll happen if and when it happens. Start where you’re at and don’t shoot for anymore than where you’re currently at. There is so much to really say on healing this stuff. Yes it’s nice that it does help promote greater spiritual development but it also helps with healing those core wounds that were created in relationship to others in our childhood that land us sleeping with people that not so coincidentally are very much like our parents and we relate to in the same subtle ways with them as we did with our parents and getting into the same kind of relationships again and again and again. This is karma. We’re trying to fill deeper needs that we didn’t get early in childhood and unconsciously find people to fill those needs. That’s okay. We’re just trying our best with what we got whether we know it or not. There is a way to satiate these unmet needs though. I highly recommend checking those resources out and of course also getting good psychotherapy that deals with these attachment issues. Generally I hear tell it takes 3-18 months to really heal these kinds of disturbances. If I were you though I’d throw away these timelines. If this resonates with you I highly recommend you give yourself what you’ve been looking for. Take care and thanks for staying with this long post if you’ve made it this far. I hope it serves you.

Funny enough, everybody I’ve met and known that’s actually served in the military has always said the same thing, “it’s just another job”. It really is funny to me because when you throw around the usual ideals we might attribute with being in the military you can feel the sense that you’re looking at them through this delusional starry eyed perspective. It’s like meeting celebrities or your favorite athletes or powerful people. They’re just people. From how I read your original post you seem to be looking at it from a place of fantasy really. I inagine the military really is great for some people. I can imagine the kinds of bonds you can have with the men you serve with in combat is one that can be hard to describe. To me though, from how I read your post, you seem to be reflecting some qualities you kind of fantasize and imagine yourself having a chance to live up to. To have something to show for your life. That said I don’t think I really need to do the laborious task of going into all the corrupt and negative things that come from the military as well. Anything to have an excuse to wear leather jackets all the time ??? Why not just go into martial arts like BJJ? Where you can actually learn the kind of values and things to actually got those impulses humbled and actually under control.

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Hi guys, just want to share with you an opportunity for those that are serious to attend an upcoming online enlightenment intensive here in the US - though since it's online it's pretty much irrelevant so long as you have access to Zoom. I know this teacher personally and she's great. She's been leading Enlightenment Intensives for quite some time and has been participating in them since the old Charles Berner days back in the 70s. I'm very fond of her. It's also pretty affordable and since it's all at home it can be quite a convenience for those of you that are a bit short of cash but are also truly commited to really have the opportunity to really dive deep, get serious, and have a breakthrough. If you do fit in that camp she told me she'll give a discount to anyone whose referred by me. If you are interested just go through the link below and if you want to get in touch with her it's pretty easy to get in touch with her over email and even have a chat with her over Zoom. I hope this invitation serves you well. https://www.loversoftruth.net

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Works on my end ??‍♂️

I’m saying Cheng Hsin is a rather secular orientation to contemplative work. I’m not saying that’s good or bad or that that itself is a complete view. As far as how Cheng Hsin compares to Zen and Advaita and what not, there’s no real ultimate way of answering that I’d say. Zen and Advaita are traditions that have evolved greatly over time. Cheng Hsin and the enlightenment intensive format that Cheng Hsin utilizes in their CI’s was derived from the fruits and results that came from traditional Zen sesshins and dyads that evolved out of Japan (which evolved out of China and of course India) and Advaita/Ramana Maharshi’s self inquiry. The enlightenment intensive format, I would make the case. is actually an Orange invention that transcended and included the fruits and results from thousands of years of work done within these fabulous yet incomplete inventions, namely the traditions. So again, asking me to compare the two is a rather broad question such that I don’t really know where to start to try and answer that. Which ones is best (for you) is what I imagine you might really be asking to which I of course don’t know. I don’t know your temperament, what you want, and so forth. I think the traditions offer practices and stuff that Cheng Hsin just doesn’t really offer. Such as monasticism, an orientation and opportunity to follow a contemplative life that is oriented towards transcending self, becoming conscious of the Absolute, and, in some cases be able to be of service to others, society, and the environment. They can also offers practices that aren’t really about enlightenment as much as you could say it is about maybe the capacities of the mind. Like the many practices the yogis undertake and so forth. Nonetheless, I would still nevertheless recommend you go to a workshop with them. To my understanding though, they don’t accept apprentices who haven’t done a workshop with them before. That said, I’d reach out to them about that if your serious and check out the website. If you’re new to this whole enlightenment thing I actually think a Cheng Hsin workshop would be a good place to start if you can afford it as you don’t have a lot of concepts that might get in the way. As far as what is the baby they’re tossing out with the bath water - the traditions and lineages. First off, belief is inevitable. Really get what beliefs are. When you walk to a bus stop, there is an implicit assumption that the bus will arrive and so forth. Of course, you don’t really know (not that you really question whether or not your bus is going to come every time you go to a bus stop- for example) but your actions indicate something that doesn’t reflect direct knowledge. It’s useful to toss beliefs and so forth but beliefs inevitable. Secondly, my point was manifold. I recommend you read what I wrote again. Hope this helps.

So a few things to this… First off, I get where you’re coming from. I’ve been there. That said, this whole “dogma free thing” if you pay attention, is a dogma. It is true that Peter and Brendan don’t peddle dogma and that’s because they’re not teaching you anything, depending on how you hold “teaching”. I would say there’s a lot you can learn and take away if you pay attention to how Brendan facilitates and communicates and really get his experience (as Peter doesn’t really facilitate workshops anymore). Regarding “dogma free teachings”, yes a lot of teachers say a bunch of phrases like “don’t believe me” or “this is not about beliefs” and what not (including actual Izard.org) and then they go on peddling cosmologies and worldviews which all must be taken on by belief. That’s what you’re left with when you’re given all that stuff. Peter and Brendan don’t do that. I appreciate that. That said, I would argue (and I actually have gone back and forth with Brendan on this) that there is a place for lineages and worldviews and what not. As I’ve also gone back and forth with those that participate in lineages to get what they’re actually doing that take or believe in the form as a reality despite it creating powerful and effective results if done well. To me I think it’s a useful thing to go down there and experience but I don’t think it’s unique to them as that’s the place from which Cheng Hsin was founded on as Peter mostly did enlightenment intensives which was a secular orientation to contemplative practice that was 100% oriented towards having a breakthrough. That said, that very secular invention was founded upon the inventions made within Zen and Advaita so I think it’s rather hypocritical and dumb to trash organized practice and try to toss the baby out with the bath water as I think they tend to do. Yes, their IEW workshop. I’ve been with many other teachers and I encourage you to do the same. Reach out, put your ass on the line, experience it for yourself and find out. Ultimately only you and you alone can awaken. Other people can help facilitate but in the end it’s on you. No teacher or drug will do it.

willing and able to put up $15k without putting yourself into a financial hole? are you able to take that much time off from work? if so I'd say it's worth it's worth it.

RIP to one of the great Bodhisattvas of the 20th and 21st century, Thich Nhat Hanh ?? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/21/world/asia/thich-nhat-hanh-dead.amp.html

Alright buddy lol have fun fucking kids

Lol okay dude. Wish him the best for me in having fun having sex with kids 30 years younger.

That’s creepy af

Wow... RIP to one of the great Bodhisattvas of 20th & 21st century.. ??♥️

This a ridiculously stupid comment. How is a member supposed to be able to do that with everything they buy? You're able to find actual honest revenue numbers when it comes to the various service providers you utilize? That's just silly dude.

Yes and who you are is incongruent based on what you are defined as as a "legal entity" in the eyes of the law but that has nothing to do with the truth now does it? Lying is lying. If you actually watch the damn video and you are informed even to the slightest bit you will know companies do in fact get in trouble with this stuff. You can find articles online that contain "facts" about crime rates for example in predominantly black neighborhoods in America but is presented in such a way to endorse a biased view that is geared towards inflaming a racial prejudice towards black people and black communities all the while leaving out bigger picture and honest perspectives and facts. Using "facts" and couching them in a POV, a perspective, whether it be in journalism or advertising (or both) to distort what's actually true is dishonest and manipulative.

@hyruga you're assuming lying is just something akin to you asking me whether or not I had breakfast and if I didn't and I just tell you I did. When you really experience what honesty is an experiential principle you'll discover honesty is not just presenting basic facts but rather about accurately conveying what's true. The examples listed in this video is using "facts" to present a dishonest a view of things so as manipulate one's motives for selfish person. In other words, it's still lying. If you want to get into the fine minutia about the "line" between deception and lying (which ultimately there isn't any real line between the two as they motivated by the same to perform the same function at the end of the day) then go ahead but it's an irrelevant one as far as I'm concerned. People use facts so as formulate and fabricate lies all the time my man.

Just like one can have many mystical experiences and still be a nazi (which actually happened in WW2 believe it or not).