SOUL

The "phenomenon" is the conceptualization in the mind, there is no "fragmentation" or "movement" other than what one believes in it. All of this supposedly doesn't exist because it's all an illusion, right? It's the 'maps of meaning' in your own mind, not mine, not anyone else, only those that let this stuff fill their minds and 'trust' it is real. So enjoy it... or not, you can let it go anytime....hehe

The infinite embrace of absolute unity.

Yea, we don't get to design or program the bios of the robot but we get to manage the OS and run the apps on the robot as we prefer. Your mission, should you choose to accept it is to make the robot disappear.... or not, some wrestle with the robot for a lifetime, it's up to you...hah

Wonder why y'all see so much fear in life....time to let go of it. Hehe

'Why is suffering bad? Why? Why is it? Why? Why?' Like a squirrel chasing a nut....

Contrary to what some very well respected people here suggest there is a manifest reality that exists without our perception of it. Although, our perception of that manifest reality is infinitely variable and we can create this perception of it as we see fit.

There definitely can be a position of power which can be abused by the 'guru' but I'm not going to assume that's what is going on. People who have followers/fans/students and the like have to be cautious about the dynamic between them and sure to not abuse that power they have. In the situation of a guru like persona who claims some enlightened state they should not be slaves to the selfish desire even if there are desires that still manifest. I have found in my own experience that in the most awakened states there aren't any desires that arise in me....but I don't make any claim of anything.

So much labeling and conceptualizing about something that supposedly doesn't exist......hmmmmm

More than just "muddying paradigms" under the guise of non-duality ideology, which has even been used to justify murderers, rapists and child molesters. There is also an 'othering' by denigrating those who aren't on a similar path. There often is a 'superiority' cognitive bias underpinning the improvement, actualized, enlightenment paths that isn't just about thinking of bettering oneself but also thinking one is better than others who aren't doing as they are doing. It seems many still fall prey to the primal conditioning they suggest they are freeing themselves from while unaware of it's presence and influence on them.

This is a forum that is obsessed with the notion that the belief concepts in their mind are 'real' and the manifest reality they live in is 'false' so this issue you mention shouldn't be surprising. Haha

Awareness transcends distinction, not necessarily dissolves it, since if it doesn't really exist as many on this forum suggest it doesn't, then there isn't anything to dissolve.

The words "dead" and "dark" are prominent in the original poster's impression of enlightenment yet with my own experience in awakening it is more accurately expressed by the words 'alive' and 'light'. As I stay present in the moment being in awakening life is fulfilling, it is an enriched experience of reality that I savor.

Too many are busy mental masturbating over their conceptual belief paradigms and miss the fulfilling simple things in life.

Who dat!

Who is asking?

If one seeks the end of seeking the seeker seeks it's own end....so, it's seeker suicide so to speak.

Who is fragmented and controlled? Haha

I experience the end of experience......haha

Well, isn't that what I said? Although, just because someone tries to put separation between themselves and the suffering they caused others doesn't mean they don't pay any consequences. The prison isn't always steel and concrete, it can be thoughts and emotion, too. Anyone who is at peace in their own life, in a state of genuine well being will not intend to cause suffering in others. Their words and deeds, inspired by the thought and emotion they have will reflect the sense of well being they experience. You think you have found some rationalization by questioning if it's "bad", that's just evidence of your own suffering. You're trying to justify it by doubting if it's "bad" in hopes you can take the sting out of the misery your self induced suffering is causing you. Oh, yea, I know, I know. You now will profess to not be suffering but like I just pointed out, words and deeds reflect the inner life. If you were genuinely at peace in a state of well being you wouldn't be on this forum trying to justify suffering. You exposed your 'self'. You can let go of it the need to justify it and when your own 'self' tries to cause you suffering, you don't have to agree to it.

Who quotes themselves?

Who sees it?

Who is asking what causes the I to seek security in the abstraction?

Pain is what it is, a sensation, suffering is an ongoing and continuing pain but pain is expressed in different ways, such as physical, emotional and psychological. There are a myriad of ways that one may separate themselves from or not experience pain and suffering. I can't tell you the "why", that's your own path to discover why but I will say if you cause others to suffer eventually others will confine you in a place that you can't cause suffering to 'innocent' others anymore and the prison beatings and rapes will test whether you know what suffering is anymore.

The "absolute understanding" as you call it, is free from "relative understanding", again as you call it, but is not separate from it..... otherwise it wouldn't be nondual and is really in unity with all relative without being bound by the relative. So the freedom from the relative isn't a state of being devoid of the relative, it's that awareness of the absolute allows us to view the relative through the lens of the absolute. I'm not sure how that fits with your justification of political views but so be it.

Real and false is an illusion of duality, transcend that misperception of the mind which manifests as the concept of real and false to perceive nonduality as it is.