SOUL

Something always coexisted with nothing, in now, they were so absolute in their existence that only when the manifest 'bloomed' was there a distinction to be perceived in awareness.

@Serotoninluv I guess once perceptual awareness was realized the notion of non-duality ceased to exist because. ......it doesn't.

I'm not offering a concept, awareness perception, or perceiving from awareness isn't a concept, it is the IS of our consciousness experience. Yes, for me to communicate it I have to conceptualize it in language in my mind but I'm not offering the concept, it's pointing to the IS of awareness perception. From that perceptual IS of awareness the mind's concept of duality does not exist. So there is no this or that, X or Y, left or right, right or wrong, truth or illusion... none of it exists in awareness perception. It's not duality resolved into non-duality. A sunset and sunrise IS the same event, not opposite ones. The dualism mindset perceives in binary conceptual paradigms, even the concept of resolving duality into nonduality or the concept of dissolving concepts is conceptually binary to it. It's perceiving what IS without the mind's conceptual duality instead of using the mind to dissolve the mind's conceptual paradigm. It's awareness of what IS through pre-conceptualization perspective, so to speak.

If you have no 'horse' why did you quote me and challenge me to 'race'? We could just run around willy nilly in the field enjoying the grass, I'm down with it. You don't have to fit everything into your concept of nonduality..... jussayin'.

I'm highlighting that perception from awareness is observation without thought, without concepts and without opposites. So don't get attached to what I wrote.

Misperception is an incorrect perception. Your comparison is an example of your mind mistakenly perceiving dualism because you suggest a dual only option premise, it's either one or the other and ask which is the misperception, one or the other. The very dual option premise itself is a misperception. Non-duality as a reaction to the mind's misperception of duality is both an implied endorsement of duality and setting another premise of duality. So just as duality is a misperception, the reaction to it with non-duality is a misperception as well. Perceiving from awareness without the impressions of the mind and it's misperceptions is not creating another concept, non-duality, to negate those misperceptions of the mind, it's observing in clarity. Perceiving from awareness will leave impressions in the mind that is entirely without the perception of dualism but isn't a reaction to dualism. Did that clarify it?

Seeing everything in dualism is a misperception of the mind and isn't an accurate representation of existence so nonduality is merely a reaction to the misperception.

Like this? ...and this Conditional fulfillment and joy is a limiting belief. Liberation is unconditional and limitless as it's only condition and limit. Realization of fulfillment and joy in any conditions is genuine liberation and peace.

The religious ideologues have always demonized anybody and anything that wasn't their very specific belief system and JBP carries on in this tradition of it. He expertly distracts from the thousands of years of bigoted othering where the 'social enforcement' was brutally exacted from their hypocritical self appointed moral pedestal and he now hysterically portrays the historic abusers as victims.

These stages are mind mazes of self slicing and dicing Fragmenting and dementing still renting the bent thing. So you buy in and fly it rhyming reasons why you bite. Don't take the jab step spin move pump fake and hoop. Just another net to smother intention in demonization. The frame game by any other name is the same blame Spinning spiral social dynamics follow me and go viral It's fresh new words on age old turds to feed the herds.

Do you see it? I wonder.

Did you say imagination? No? You could have. Hehe

Machinations Machine actions

JBP: Life is suffering! Leo: Truth = Death! SOUL:

Yes, daily experience and self observation aren't theory. Yet, ego subtly convinces oneself that it's machinations aren't theory but is truth! Then ego seeks the security of the self feeding loop in telling others if they don't theorize as it does they are enslaved and not free. Haha

@Misagh You start out well enough in recognizing the machinations of ego can bring too much theory then allow yourself to get dragged into excessive theory machinations in the thread. Which winds up with one of the more machination theorizing posters on the board suggesting if you can't see in theory the way they do you must not have 'freedom' and are still enslaved. There is a lesson here...hehe

Well, I will attempt to explain without complicating it. Contemplation is an exercise in attention and attention is a relativistic manifestation of awareness which is absolute in nature. So attention and awareness are 'kin' so to speak and they can be simultaneously or individually expressed in our consciousness. Awareness doesn't contemplate but we can be present in awareness while our attention is in contemplation and this holistic state of consciousness will yeild significant results in effective mindfulness. Does that make any sense?

AI? Hm SOUL is an IA..........Infinite Awareness......that is all.... no story.

These aren't mutually exclusive, we can contemplate and be present simultaneously, in fact, it's ideal.

So much fragment movement up in here.....

Ask who is reporting? Hehe

If you notice presence dissipating or wandering take many 'clarity' breaks to bring awareness back to the moment. It can be as simple as a meditative centering breath for less than a minute every so often. I know it's a challenge to not just to pay attention to what we are doing but to be aware of us paying attention to what we are doing but if you actively do it initially eventually it will happen passively and it will become a natural state of mind.

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There is no right and wrong or true and false in nondual perception, our awareness in nondual observation transcends all these conceptualizations you've imagined and 'enlightenment' will cease to be something sought. Yea, sure, stories are fun, they can be beautiful and inspiring but the ego lives in the story, it feeds on the story, it needs the story and it thinks it's own story is 'right' and 'truth'.

When you typed that out and hit submit reply, you answered your own question. Do you really need me to explain it?