SOUL

All language is 'semantics' and all words can be drivel but especially the words of whiners because they have no beneficial value.

Soft pages that can be used for toilet paper.

@CreamCat You very well may be intellectually cucked by Leo, there are many who are. Not just by Leo but by other speakers, teachers, posters, commentators, media, politicians, religions, governments and on and on. It's not about accepting a bit of information or a certain perspective on something. We all accept something that didn't originate from our direct experience or was brought to our attention by others. It becomes 'cucking' when someone accepts another's world view or mental paradigm so that everything that one encounters it is filtered through that meta perspective and confirmation bias. It could be that something someone points out has some commonality to what our experience is and we can gain some insight into by having been exposed to the ideas of others. Although, it is genuinely experienced when it is part of a process in which we reflect upon it, examining and questioning the experience so that any potential insight is realized for us. It's not a matter of finding a specific commonality and then adopting the whole paradigm of another based off that. It's not studying another's opinion, story or recounting of their experience so that it is a methodical world view of dogmatic beliefs. There isn't a universal way to view experience so remembering and regurgitating the exacting details of others can be more of a stumbling block than insight. People even get cucked by their own ego and/or self so that they are convinced their own perception is the 'truth', 'right', 100% accurate or factual. We all possess erroneous perceptions and to believe that we don't have any is delusional, hence the reason we reflect and examine our experience. Just something to consider.

So many beliefs....so very many conceptually complicated beliefs....

Apparently you weren't in any "loop of conception" that I am describing because you misunderstand what I've said. I'm describing that awareness is the IS of our consciousness and perceive from that IS of awareness in viewing the rest of our consciousness from that IS of awareness. Other expressions of our consciousness, like the self, ego and all the contents that fill consciousness like sensations, thoughts, concepts and the like are perceived by awareness. I was speaking primarily on consciousness but this awakening of awareness can be experienced exponentially in perception. I didn't say anything about "knowing" I'm coming from "absolute seeing", those are your words and idea you are trying to inject into this and put on me. You could take a moment to contemplate what I said by awareness being the IS of our consciousness and not what you thought I said and maybe will clarify it. Again I will reiterate that to communicate any of this I need to conceptualize it in language and undoubtedly some clarify is lost in the process. This is from my direct experience of it but your own experience may differ, there is no 'right' or 'wrong' in our experience of being, there just is. Also, meditate on why you project any fear on the notion of hearing something differing because there is a reason why you brought that into it so......

@CreamCat Nope, it isn't default or automatic, you are just being intellectually cucked by someone that misrepresents research to fit his narrative. Fear of the unknown/unique/different isn't universally default or automatic. There are many people who are interested and intrigued by it so investigate without fear. In fact, it is those unafraid people who are the leaders in thought and action who have forged innovation and progress. If anything, those are the mythical 'alphas' he suggests exist at the top of his mythical 'pyramid'. The fearful get manipulated by others who are equally fearful of those who aren't fearful so brutalize and coerce compliance through mob rule. This isn't a 'pyramid' hierarchy, that is collectivist oppression which is a blatant distortion of the protective instinct that provided security of the tribe. More popular doesn't make something more right, good or true but it is another example of his misappropriating our social nature to live in groups to support his 'socially enforced' collectivist beliefs. Which exposes his contradictory ideology, on one hand he rails against 'groups' when it comes to individuals wanting equal rights but on the other hand he whines about the norms, which are a collective construct, being challenged by individuals wanting equal rights. He exploits the naivete and ignorance of his followers using their fear to profit himself. Then they faithfully behave like the fearful mob anytime the sacred myths are questioned filling forums and comments defending it with their ego fear. Exploitation isn't a default of competition and a pyramid power structure isn't a default of hierarchy, although people who want to exploit and dominate over others will say it is. Those that believe it are as I suggested earlier, intellectually cucked. So, that's why there are homeless guys who have a girlfriend and incels with all the societal trappings who can't get laid. There isn't a pyramid unless you believe there is and submit yourself to it's mythic structure....that is 'meaning'. He sure is a charismatic fellow who uses a bit of truth to appear credible but it is distorted, twisted and spun into a fabricated grand narrative that is not much more than a myth. If only he was simply being a motivational speaker with his regurgitated self help tropes but he's trying to spread his mythical belief paradigm as 'truth' and those that are fearful of the unknown are eager to climb on the lap of the mythic sky daddy that both soothes and stokes their fears.

What is belief? Believing is accepting that something is true or real. We consciously and subconsciously believe many things, in fact it's impossible to not ever believe anything at all. What are thoughts? Thoughts are sensations of many varieties, physical, mental and emotional that arise in our mind. We consciously and subconsciously have many thoughts. It's impossible to not ever have thoughts at all. So why are some thoughts and beliefs more 'sticky' than others? We can easily reject some thoughts and beliefs but others seem like they are super glued to our psyche. Identity with them is what creates the attachment that is so sticky. How is it any different with attachment to a negative perspective of thoughts and beliefs? If one is to cease attachment to thoughts and beliefs then the attachment to the negative ones about them must cease as well.

I didn't watch the video and don't intend to but being a 'wage slave' is a mindset, even the wealthiest people in the world can be a 'wage slave' because it's all in the mind. Although, the world system we are living in has been devised to create the 'wage slave' mentality.

Something always coexisted with nothing, in now, they were so absolute in their existence that only when the manifest 'bloomed' was there a distinction to be perceived in awareness.

@Serotoninluv I guess once perceptual awareness was realized the notion of non-duality ceased to exist because. ......it doesn't.

I'm not offering a concept, awareness perception, or perceiving from awareness isn't a concept, it is the IS of our consciousness experience. Yes, for me to communicate it I have to conceptualize it in language in my mind but I'm not offering the concept, it's pointing to the IS of awareness perception. From that perceptual IS of awareness the mind's concept of duality does not exist. So there is no this or that, X or Y, left or right, right or wrong, truth or illusion... none of it exists in awareness perception. It's not duality resolved into non-duality. A sunset and sunrise IS the same event, not opposite ones. The dualism mindset perceives in binary conceptual paradigms, even the concept of resolving duality into nonduality or the concept of dissolving concepts is conceptually binary to it. It's perceiving what IS without the mind's conceptual duality instead of using the mind to dissolve the mind's conceptual paradigm. It's awareness of what IS through pre-conceptualization perspective, so to speak.

If you have no 'horse' why did you quote me and challenge me to 'race'? We could just run around willy nilly in the field enjoying the grass, I'm down with it. You don't have to fit everything into your concept of nonduality..... jussayin'.

I'm highlighting that perception from awareness is observation without thought, without concepts and without opposites. So don't get attached to what I wrote.

Misperception is an incorrect perception. Your comparison is an example of your mind mistakenly perceiving dualism because you suggest a dual only option premise, it's either one or the other and ask which is the misperception, one or the other. The very dual option premise itself is a misperception. Non-duality as a reaction to the mind's misperception of duality is both an implied endorsement of duality and setting another premise of duality. So just as duality is a misperception, the reaction to it with non-duality is a misperception as well. Perceiving from awareness without the impressions of the mind and it's misperceptions is not creating another concept, non-duality, to negate those misperceptions of the mind, it's observing in clarity. Perceiving from awareness will leave impressions in the mind that is entirely without the perception of dualism but isn't a reaction to dualism. Did that clarify it?

Seeing everything in dualism is a misperception of the mind and isn't an accurate representation of existence so nonduality is merely a reaction to the misperception.

Like this? ...and this Conditional fulfillment and joy is a limiting belief. Liberation is unconditional and limitless as it's only condition and limit. Realization of fulfillment and joy in any conditions is genuine liberation and peace.

The religious ideologues have always demonized anybody and anything that wasn't their very specific belief system and JBP carries on in this tradition of it. He expertly distracts from the thousands of years of bigoted othering where the 'social enforcement' was brutally exacted from their hypocritical self appointed moral pedestal and he now hysterically portrays the historic abusers as victims.

These stages are mind mazes of self slicing and dicing Fragmenting and dementing still renting the bent thing. So you buy in and fly it rhyming reasons why you bite. Don't take the jab step spin move pump fake and hoop. Just another net to smother intention in demonization. The frame game by any other name is the same blame Spinning spiral social dynamics follow me and go viral It's fresh new words on age old turds to feed the herds.

Do you see it? I wonder.

Did you say imagination? No? You could have. Hehe

Machinations Machine actions

JBP: Life is suffering! Leo: Truth = Death! SOUL:

Yes, daily experience and self observation aren't theory. Yet, ego subtly convinces oneself that it's machinations aren't theory but is truth! Then ego seeks the security of the self feeding loop in telling others if they don't theorize as it does they are enslaved and not free. Haha

@Misagh You start out well enough in recognizing the machinations of ego can bring too much theory then allow yourself to get dragged into excessive theory machinations in the thread. Which winds up with one of the more machination theorizing posters on the board suggesting if you can't see in theory the way they do you must not have 'freedom' and are still enslaved. There is a lesson here...hehe

Well, I will attempt to explain without complicating it. Contemplation is an exercise in attention and attention is a relativistic manifestation of awareness which is absolute in nature. So attention and awareness are 'kin' so to speak and they can be simultaneously or individually expressed in our consciousness. Awareness doesn't contemplate but we can be present in awareness while our attention is in contemplation and this holistic state of consciousness will yeild significant results in effective mindfulness. Does that make any sense?