SOUL

At the very core of all desire is the existential yearning that manifests in consciousness when we are aware of our own awareness so often it can create discontented self instead of fulfillment in just being.

I am P.O.D....... pit of delusions.

I gave you a clear answer and apparently you prefer the self suffering. buh bye

@Nathan @Loba Yep, people just come up with stories they imagine why so they can live with it....read all the ones offered here to you about why add them to the untold number of stories people tell themselves. I won't tell another other than to say just be at peace.

The mind habitually comes up with another method or milestone a practice or state, dissolving this or becoming that always finding a reason why one is lacking, incomplete so yearning for something other than what is. Just be.

@JuliusCaesar People often prefer the familiarity of misery than to change because of their fear of the unknown.

@Inliytened1 Living life at peace... oh and I had a move in my residence recently which kept me pretty occupied for a couple months worth of activity.

@Salvijus I said no such thing, I'm not sure anymore that we're talking about the same thing. Be well Peace

@Salvijus My well being isn't limited by opinion, I'm not talking about opinion, it's the experience of well being not the story about story. Which is what opinion is about, something like 'freedom' or understanding someone's teaching or the social dynamics of it. All of those things can become a distraction from well being and are replaced by the finite feelings of self justification through 'truth'. Genuine liberation transcends the conditional including the narratives we tell ourselves are true. So the enjoyment someone may get from the different expressions of descriptions and understandings of mystical and spiritual experience can be fruit of the unconditional well being that transcends the story and is not dependent upon having the 'true' story.

I don't pay any attention to getting anyone to think anything so people will just think, believe and do any which way they see fit. My own intention is for well being in my own experience and I don't need to legitimize it to anyone, not even to my 'self', to be well. I don't get involved with the social cliques aspect of the ideological differences, opinion doesn't influence my well being.

Watching that Spira video really demonstrates to me how there is a strong bias towards trusting one's own perception as true and dismissing another perception as false. It is extremely difficult to not fall into this 'trap' of confirmation bias especially when it is reaffirmed by 'traditional conceptualization', for lack of a better phrase to describe it.

Well, your sloppy framing is continuing to slide...first it was "not smart enough to see the truth of it" and then it becomes "not smart enough to recognize the wisdom"...both seem a bit self righteous about ones own perception. Again, to stay on the point I'm making it's just something that is in the imagination of the perceiver, there is no universal truth to it, it's a perception of personal truth.

@Salvijus The description of the 'reward-punishment' and I only use those words as a reference not as a 'truth' are different in different religions but the psychological mechanism is the same. Not 'smart enough to see the truth'? That's the same demeaning attitude dogmatic zealots of many religions use... I suspect those are just your words and not Buddhist ways of referring to it but it doesn't change the point. It's only in the imagination that one trusts it is true, that one believes it to be the truth. No hand waving away 'belief' either, that's exactly what it is, one trusts the perception one has in awareness, in the imagination that it is 'true'.

I would but since I transcend time I don't have the time to explain it.

@Salvijus The explanation of Buddhism you use to suggest that only if you believe as Buddhists do and do as they do can you know they are right and others don't have the authority to question them being right is pretty much how Christianity and many other religions suggest theirs is. This is in the imagination and that one believes is the truth which doesn't mean it is a universal truth for all.

People confuse the fact that all of our experience is known through the perception of imagination in the mind with thinking that makes everything imaginary. It's an inability to distinguish the difference between the field of perception that is generated in the mind's imagination which allows us to perceive what is actually in the physical manifest reality from the things that only exist in the imagination, so are imaginary. Not only are things like mystical and spiritual experience often transferred from something imaginary to trusted ideas so are believed to be true there are also things some have as self perceptions and aspects of memories they believe to be true but are only imaginary. This doesn't mean all mystical and spiritual experience are imaginary so are not to be believed but similarly we shouldn't believe all mystical and spiritual experience to be true. Mystical and spiritual experience is useful if it brings us well being not that it's 'truth'. Again to clarify, just because it is a fact of the natural world that all our perceptions of experience happens in the mind's imagination doesn't mean that everything is only imaginary. Although, I haven't read that book so am not trying to explain it to you. I'm just discussing the erroneous conflation of imagination and imaginary as being the exact same thing and some of the consequences of this.

No joke, just be is the simplest explanation because it's not even an explanation, it's the absence of an explanation.

What if the 'you' and the 'god' do not exist at all...and even as they don't exist it is only in your imagination that you believe they exist. whoop there it is....

Here's a simple explanation even though there are deeper ones that can be made: awakening is like taking off blinders and insight is what is seen once the blinders are off.

Being fit, making alot of money and having a hot sex life but still miserable so in conflict with random people on the internet is evidence those things you are doing haven't brought you well being.

@bloomer You are just imagining me taking something horrific and going so abstract... or am I imagining you imagining me? Maybe someone else is imagining us imagining each other... Use your imagination and it's obvious what this is...

No, you are just completely missing it.... I'm going to leave you hanging and maybe one day you will realize what I'm saying. It's just too funny to spoil it... haha

@Nivsch Logic...circular and all are imaginary...science and religion are imaginary Eventually you will catch on to what I'm saying implicitly, don't make me say it explicitly.

@Nivsch A reference point is just imaginary

According to the belief system of this forum you are god and created all of this, you are alone and it's all in your imagination. You imagined the incident, you imagined the terror, imagined the attacker, imagined the victims running, screaming and the violence, imagining the conflict between cultures. Why would imagine all of that? You are even imagining me asking you why are you imagining all of this? I know it sounds foolish and detached from the reality but it's only imaginary that it may sound that way because it's only you who exist and everything is just your imagination, real reality is imagined. Don't believe it? Just read the forum and all the imagined members will tell you in post after post, thread after thread... that is until the imagined Leo has a new imagined deepest awakening on drugs and then they will start to preach that new imagined belief. I will now sit back and await the imagined backlash for them imagining me saying this.