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I wasn't trying to suggest anything too significant with the use of the word intellectual, other than I thought the way the point was made was clever and succinct in an intelligent way...sometimes too much is read into everything.

Did I say being intellectual is a problem? I thought it was a clever way of saying it. Also the point of the thread isn't a problem....it's not actually a problem, it's a preference and you elucidated it quite intellectually.

You can't make me do it....it seems nobody can.

That's the most intellectual way of saying that....but also quite accurate.

Apparently, I don't have the free will to do that.

Maybe the thread should be about the difference between NPCs It might be more interesting discussing the distinction between non-playable character and non-person consciousness.

So you had no choice in saying that..um, ok.

Meditate on it.

First, I'd like to point out how I'm replying post 7777 of yours... Now, to the point of your message in that post. I guess according to you I am only allowed to talk about the differences of something that doesn't actually have differences in nonduality or as I called it, metanonduality. Ok, maybe in typical nonduality there are classical and radical differences, which is why I chose to illuminate in metanonduality there are no differences and the confusion is from a perception in dualism. Which is the point of nonduality, right? To not get trapped in the confusion of relative perceptions from duality? I suppose some people prefer to argue about the relative differences in something that doesn't exist. So go right ahead, my post shouldn't stop you from doing that...

Metanonduality.

I guess 'seeing through the me' can really be explained as transcending the observer-oberved dualism as the final boss of the game to get to the metanonduality level some call 'god realization'. Although, to proclaim 'I am god' is the meification from a subjective perspective of something that in its actual metanondual form has transcended that subjective-objective or observer-observed state. One abiding in it wouldn't be inspired to say that because it doesn't exist in it.

So you didn't notice the part about nonduality in my original comment? I can admit it was written cryptically in a sort of riddle but if someone could understand what was being said through it the comment has direct relevance to confusion, conflation and differences between 'types' of nonduality. There are only confusion, conflation and differences from the dual perspective, from the nondual perspective and more specifically, the metanonduality, those aren't there. It's simply the paradox of being aware of what one isn't aware before being aware of it. A teacher cannot present a lesson the student cannot grasp, the ideas have to be contextualized for the level of the student, or they won't be useful to them. You have to teach a child how to write before you can teach them to write a book.

Well, to be clear, it's an awareness phenomenon. We may come across some teaching or discourse that can trigger us to become aware of something we previously weren't aware of. This is what some call 'awakening' and the absolute form of awakening that some people call 'enlightenment'. It isn't a reasoning process of dialogue between opposing viewpoints to resolve truth through rational examining of contradiction. It is transcending that dialectical process, realizing there is no dualism of contradiction to examine. On a relative level is where this takes place, on an absolute level it's not relevant. The trigger isn't the point...life is a trigger without a warning, which is why few 'awaken' through its devices. I hope this clarifies.

So you don't recognize how this is relevant in a 'confusion about nonduality' thread? Um...ok.

Grok doesn't think it's a crock either... and from chatgpt Hm...

In the same way that once one stops seeking it is realized that it always is, so once one stops wanting to know, everything is knowable.

Oh, I thought it was just a joke which would have been fine. Simply put, my point was that any confusion one may have about nonduality stems from the perception of it or what someone is teaching about it. Nonduality doesn't have separation within it, it is the unified in its absolute nature.

I understand that stray 'l' in metanonduality may have caused some confusion, the matter has been resolved and I appreciate your feedback on the matter.

It does come with fries if you get the combo.

That's just a derivative of Egosackly which is just the bag we keep all of our selfness in.

Once one perceives metanonduality it is realized there is no duality in nonduality to be confusing, there's just perception of nonduality that some may confuse as confusion.

Truth is not in words or in concepts imagined Abiding is truth

Although, misdirection is an activity. You asking a loaded question you think you know the answer to is an exercise and then you trying to misdirect that to something else is also an exercise. Of course, you will probably retort with that there is no 'you' that is 'doing' this so exercise the misdirection even more.