RichardY

A Trinity Christian(All Major Denominations). God as 3 Persons(Gods...). Father, Son, Holy Ghost. Monarchian Modalism.(No Denominations) God as 3 Aspects. Time, Space and Object. Pantheist: Time & Space. Pentecostal Oneness (Modalist/Pantheist). Having multiple Christs. Is Anti-Christ. Only one being can be co-substantial with time. To have more than one would fracture reality. Is tantamount to Blaspheme and can not be forgiven.

Yes there is freewill, but it's not for granted. There is only so many ways causality can work. To a Pantheist, which is true, there is no freewill. If made in the image of God, there is freewill.

Looks like you have some solid points there. "Conquered, we conquer." -----------------

@Revolutionary Think Similar to the ancient Chinese tradition of paying a doctor before you get ill, or to keep you healthy. So grants could be revoked for refusal or inability to do service to the state. As opposed to raising a feudal levy. The more efficient system, given the arid nature of Anatolia's sparse settlements, numerical and physical prowess of nomad warriors. Local superiority, being a major advantage. Plus not wanting to be raped and murdered by invading tribals.

@Revolutionary Think There was a system called "pronoia." instituted in the Eastern Roman Empire as opposed to Feudalism. Also the opposite of paranoia.

The term probably has links to Liberia which tried to emulate whiggism, as a country for freed Afro-American slaves or copied the name for their political party. They were a small political faction, considered antithetical to royal authority. William Daniel Defoe (Moll Flanders, Robinson Crusoe) was a member, I think they also had a good number of historians and original authors. Now gone, although Toryism(Literally meaning Banditry, or the modern Conservative Party) exists, for now.

@Revolutionary Think Pre-Revolutionary War Libertarianism. Has it's roots in Whiggism. Contemporary Libertarianism. Divorces God from Liberalism and runs into a subject/object duality. Ayn Rands Objectivism. Von Mises Subjective Theory of Value.

Books are superior. Main thing is the root, the media doesn't matter so much. I dislike when self help books use quotes from other books. Or copy a philosophy.

1) Rent Seeking. Although that's Evil and parasitical. 2) Plant trees. Or look for assets that mature with age.

Book III, Chapter 5 of the Physics]. Therefore, there is no actual infinity in nature. The mode of existence that the infinite has, according to Aristotle, must therefore be as follows: “the infinite can be viewed as one thing taken after another”. Accordingly, the infinite exhibits itself in different ways: in time, in the generations of man, and in the division of magnitudes. For generally the infinite has this mode of existence: one thing is always being taken after another, and each thing that is taken is always finite, but always different. [Again, ‘being’ is spoken of in several ways, so that we must not regard the infinite as a ‘this’, such as a man or a horse, but must suppose it to exist in the sense in which we speak of the day or the games as existing—things whose being has not come to them like that of a substance, but consists in a process of coming to be or passing away, finite, yet always different. (206a 26-34). ------------------- An actual infinite in nature, which is why he uses Metaphysics. So an example that I have heard given is like saying an infinite number of marbles, would be the same as saying no marbles at all. No distinction can be drawn. Edit: Adding to that. Although an infinite can be "viewed" as a potentiality. That comes down to Atheists bastardizing Aristotle's work. Considering he mentions contemplation, on the "prime mover", Aristotle's First Cause. A thing can be finite yet exhibit 2 different states. 1 & 0, existence and non-existence, real & unreal, Yin & Yang. A dual aspect monism.

@RendHeaven To equivocate contemplation as thinking, is a more contemporary use of the term. When the root is more inline with observation/attention, or a template. CONTEMPLATION, noun [Latin] Webster 1828 1. The act of the mind in considering with attention; meditation; study; continued attention of the mind to a particular subject.CONTEMPLATION is keeping the idea, brought into the mind, some time actually in view. 2. Holy meditation; attention to sacred things; a particular application of the foregoing definition.To have in contemplation to intend or purpose, or to have under consideration. "To set the universe in motion." Is classical mechanics and Newtonian. It is ascribing a contemporary concept(presumably the Big Bang) to an ancient writer.

Pantheism: Is True. If all is one there is no closure. A Pantheist would be Spinoza or Einstein. Panentheism: Is True by definition and the Absolute Truth. Truth being a verb or teleology. Heraclitus is a Panentheist. "You never step in the same river twice." "He who sees not me, but the Logos will say, all is one". Atheist: Logos Troll. Aristotle's (Prime mover or first cause.) In Book 12 (Greek: Λ) of his Metaphysics, Aristotle describes the unmoved mover as being perfectly beautiful, indivisible, and contemplating only the perfect contemplation: self-contemplation.

Well I suppose if you say so. No self, permanent lights out. You aren't equating no-self to no-ego are you? Because I consider them to be very different things. juxtaposed. But how would that explain things like astral projection?

@Moreira I disagree. No-self, does not equal no-ego. No-self is permanent death, "the 2nd death", eternal does not come into it, although it may feel that way. To become absorbed into God, and be no more.

There is a difference between no-self and no Ego. Hinduism has Atman Brahman. (Self/soul). At least some sects of Buddhism do not; NO Atman, NO self- No soul. It is possible they can both be correct, in terms of direction. So to have no Ego, would be something like from... Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

@moon777light You die. Make no mistake, Pantheism will lead to your death. "He who hears not me but the Logos will say: All is one." - Heraclitus. If anything comes after, if some identity survives I don't know. Tread carefully and carry a big stick? The Book of Not Knowing is very similar from what I remember listening to from Spinoza's "The Ethics." Yes! I would say that. Of course I reserve to be in error for now and change. Very wary…..

What if you're blind?

You could try woofing or volunteering on farms. Vancouver island is nice, I was there 5 years a go or so, worked on a small Lavender farm for accommodation while backpacking around. Unless you're going to marry someone rich or go full out autarky(self-sufficiency), what market you sell to is very important. @CocoloveI suppose if you want to live the good life regardless, you need a budget in mind as your seed capital, and a time frame.

The only thing that exists is Mind and Identity(not to be confused with Egoic labels).

Only issue, is when it becomes political, zero-sum. Which is virtually everything. "For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?" What did you read into, specifically?

@abrakamowse Anything Interesting? I heard the Tibetan book of the dead was referenced by Jung, having a link to the Mandala. -------------------------- On the Seventh Day, the Knowledge-Holding Deities, from the holy paradise realms, come to receive on. Simultaneously, the pathway to the brute world, produced by the obscuring passion, stupidity, also cometh to receive one. The setting-face-to-face at that time is, calling the deceased by name, thus: O nobly-born, listen undistractedly. On the Seventh Day the vari-coloured radiance of the purified propensities will come to shine. Simultaneously, the Knowledge-Holding Deities, from the holy paradise realms, will come to receive one. From the centre of the Circle [or Mandala], enhaloed in radiance of rainbow light, the supreme Knowledge-Holding [Deity], the Lotus Lord of Dance, the Supreme Knowledge-Holder Who Ripens Karmic Fruits, radiant with all the five colours, embraced by the [Divine] Mother, the Red Dākinī, [he] holding a crescent knife and a skull [filled] with blood, dancing and making the mudrā of fascination, [with his right hand held] aloft, will come to shine. ------------------------- Sounds like Satan.... Red Dragon. ------------------- Therefore, to the abbots [or discipline-holders], to the doctors, and to those mystics who have failed in their vows, and to all the common people, this Thödol is indispensable. But those who have meditated upon the Great Perfection and the Great Symbol will recognize the Clear Light at the moment of death; and, obtaining the Dharma-Kāya, all of them will be such as not to need the reading of this Thödol. By recognizing the Clear Light at the moment of death, they also will recognize the visions of the Peaceful and the Wrathful during the Chönyid Bardo, and obtain the Sambhoga-Kāya; or, recognizing during the Sidpa Bardo, obtain the Nirmāna-Kāya; and, taking birth on the higher planes, will, in the next rebirth, meet with this Doctrine, and then enjoy the continuity of karma. Therefore, this Thödol is the doctrine by which Buddhahood may be attained without meditation; the doctrine liberating by the hearing [of it] alone; the doctrine which leadeth brings of great evil karma on the Secret Path; the doctrine which produceth differentiation instantaneously [between those who are initiated into it and those who are not]: being the profound doctrine which Conferreth Perfect Enlightenment instantaneously. Those sentient beings who have been reached by it cannot go to the unhappy states. This [doctrine] and the Tahdol [doctrine], when joined together being like unto a mandala of gold inset with turquoise, combine them. Thus, the indispensable nature of the Thödol being shown, there now cometh the setting-face-to-face with the dawning of the Wrathful [Deities] in the Bardo. -------------------- So the person fucked up in someway, but got reincarnated. ------------ After the 7th Day. Not so happy. Does God Ever rest? There ain't no rest for the wicked. 28 days later.

There "is" only 2 ways a society can go Prosocial or Eusocial selection. Eusocial is where people band together in a hierarchy, High Tory(literally means bandit). Which has the affect of concentrating wealth through conformity and networking. In a royal class or dictatorship of the proletariat, in hive form. Communism is the most developed of the systems. Marxian Republic Dictatorship, Stalinist Centralisation, Or Trotsky Democratic means. Prosocial is where resources and technology are distributed in society, and not concentrated in a few. Like Tesla not patenting and charging royalties on the early methods of AC electric generation. A person in the Overclass has incentive to stay for the networking effects & conformity of material wealth, through their connections. A person in the underclass has material incentive to sellout and join the Overclass. Best for humanity would be Overclass defection and Underclass adherence. The opposite is currently the case. As humanity moves towards a Tech singularity, with it's unsustainable population maintained with fossil fuels, or the withholding of technology. Sorting people may already establish a hierarchy of sorts.

There's some audiobooks by Emmanuel Swedenborg on audible, a guy with an I.Q around 200. Says that hell exists. I listened to a few samples, although the audio quality is not the best. Also there are more contemporary people with people that believe or have seen hell, with 200 I.Qs Christopher Langan or Nikola Tesla. The Trinitarianist Doctrine of 3 Gods. Was implemented after the Council of Constantinople, moving away from Monotheism. Cosmological/Cognitive as a comprehensive, but not complete definition of God. Mind = Reality. You may try to escape Karma, which is why salvation is important.

If you are looking for minimal work, I wouldn't have thought farming to be it. Forest gardening, might be easier with a small nursery. Even if you automate, if you're not watching it things can go out of hand. I heard a story from a shepherd in Portugal, about a chicken farmer that went on holiday, when he came back all the chickens were dead, as the water had stopped working. For income, location & market is important. There's an Urban farmer, Curtis Stone, who grows salads in Kelowna, Canada. But that's one of the most expensive cities.

Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.