Loreena

@The White Belt It seems like you suffer from intense anxiety which can be a major distraction. You can keep the spiritual stuff aside for a while because it all gets jumbled up. So try to segregate things and prioritize them. Your ocd could be contributing to this problem. Often when you have ocd, you lose focus and cling to things that drain your energy. Not good. Btw, you always need to have a plan B on your plate. I mean other than acting.

@Shanmugam @Prabhaker great posts both of you.

Instead of talking to your plants, if you yelled at them would they still grow, but only to be troubled and insecure? Have you ever heard them.

Great points

Existence is an experience as natural as anything else. If you identify with thoughts of suffering, it increases your misery. Dissociate from such thoughts and you'll have peace.

This is rationalization of belief but does not appear as cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance is the presence of conflicting ideas.

@Shanmugam I've read this book. It's a about spirituality and atheism and how one can be spiritual without the need for religion with the help of meditation. However no other method is mentioned which made it very meditation oriented. It's like a begginer' s guide to meditation, so not very comprehensive imo.

@Visionary I read somewhere that the spirit resides in the soul and the soul lives in the heart/heart chakra. The spirit is the connection to God. Thus the heart is the gateway to God.

@Prabhaker @Principium Nexus Psychopaths are incapable of feeling emotions. Even enlightened people are supposed to feel less emotional, almost free from emotions. So does this mean that an enlightened person could be a psychopath although in a positive way. Can there be a possibility of a high correlation between psychopaythy and enlightenment.

What a beautiful life purpose ?

What are the identifying characteristics and mo of aggressors.

Now this is how enlightened folks should speak.

Lol this thread has become a mess. I'm moving outta here for good. Irony of ironies.

I I came. I saw. . . I'm running for my life.

You mean Loreena the hurricane, Don't you? C mon.

Your point was perfect. Couldn't have said it better.

Personally I feel the reason for shutting the website and the forum is entirely different than what is being implied. This is just speculation though, never know for sure. Just a hint.

Oh God Snick, why did you do this. I actually believed all your lies. Pity.

I get your point. Personally even I was fed up with the arguments, debates and garbage at one time. But don't you think shutting down is extreme and reflects negatively. Why not better moderation. A separate subforum as mentioned before. Why not alternatives Is this the solution that enlightened folks (Or at least assuming they are trying to get enlightened )come up with ? Even kindergarten kids will have better solutions.

But do you really believe that a website needs to be shut down just for that ? Why not let things be. Those who wish to pursue their journey, they will do it anyway. But those who are curious, let them be. You can't force the directions of the mind. It doesn't work. It only builds resistance. The individual comes back to asking questions again. Holding back won't work. And If they don't let out here, where would they go ? At least here people care to understand and listen. Go to yahoo answers or something similar and post a question and nobody cares to answer. You would feel like a ghost there. There's really no better place. But Sadly..... everything good has to go for some odd reason. It's irony. Now let's begin to embrace the fact that shit happens. It's just a forum. Not a big deal. I would move to another place to find some open minded nice folks.

I was just getting a bit emotional that's all. There's irony in everything. Seems like I lost my sense of humor this time.

Maybe it's easy for you. Not that easy for me though. I was getting help here. I wasn't feeling comfortable elsewhere. It's easy to laugh.

He is not morally bound. All I was saying is that he should consider us as well. Its harsh if he takes all decisions by himself. That's lot invested here. But again who am I ? Right ? Fine.

Lets not forget that this website /forum is not running because of Leo alone. We as members are contributing as well. What will this forum be without a single member ? I know its a free service. But We're not getting paid either. There's a lot of useful information given here by many people that is available for free. Why should someone put extra effort in writing a long post trying to help out someone with useful tips. Get out in the outside world and check out the fees of psychotherapists. For every little information you're charged. Some of the advice here is of professional level and even better, not to mention the emotional support groups you form here for which you would have got charged elsewhere. And all that absolutely free. We are not slaves . Its not the question of entitlement. Some folks here have paid for products and they have the right to discuss as long as they obey rules. We all have contributed a lot to make this forum for what it is. So we're not to be easily dismissed. Even though this forum belongs to Leo, we are running it. And no.. not just for reputation points. The reason is because we care. Because we're one big family. The Actualized. Org forum family. And there can be fights within a family. We still stick together. And we are a free family.

@Joseph Maynor All beliefs. Hahaha. Just kidding.