Socrates

@SOUL Did you even read it dude come on. Generally Good=promotes love,hapiness etc. Evil=promotes pain,suffering etc. It is not about the accuracy of those thoughts, it is about having a guide for your behavior.

@SOUL I didnt suggest it excist outside the mind, we basically proved that wrong with @username. I said that it doesn't help you anywhere to ditch that paradigm completely. It is damaging because you become an apathetic spiritual theorist. If you ditch the paradigm of good and bad you need awareness to make sure you don't make others suffer, which wouldn't be "allowed" as long as you hold the good and bad paradigm. This is a complex topic but you can't just say ditch good and bad, that is irresponsible. You need to be empathetic and realise that your actions can actually cause pain or happiness/love. If you can do that without the good and bad paradigm, good for you, but spreading it like the plague without taking into account the potential negative concsioquenses it is not a good move. @Nahm ?????

@Nahm That's too theoritical, it doesn't actually help you anywhere so i dont see any reason to hold that belief. Even the fact that enlightened people try to do well in the world by writing books etc there is no doubt that they still want to provide value and help others. I don't know if you can do good for the world and still view it as perfect, if that is the case it would the perfect paradigm. The other end tilts too much on apathy which is levels bellow enlightenment.

I would describe it like evil creates suffering and good creates love. I still don't see anyone here connect his spiritual theory with real life. If it doesn't connect with real life i can use your paradigm to justify rape, murder and other behaviours that make people suffer. I still don't see any reason to drop that paradigm of good and evil. Even Leo couldn't justify this with real life language and not spiritual theorizations. Also if something pushes self agenda it is probably the paradigm that doesn't allow you to have morals and a notion of good and evil, hypocritical nontheless.

Don't finish. Business studies are the worst of the education industry. People who don't actually own businesses teach you about business. You can literally learn 10x better quality thoery with reading entrepreneurial books and trying out creating a business yourself. Just go for music if it is actually your passion. Finish uni when it is not your passion is the worst advice you can get especially in such a domain where the stuff you learn are irrelevant. If you give yourself a plan b you will always have an excuse not to pursue your passion. At the end of the day though you know what you really want to do. Are you going to pull the trigger?

@Nahm Not that, the statement that the world is perfect as it is.

@Nahm Justify that

@Nahm Theoritically, that doesn't mean you don't do anything to improve it

@aryberry Not for a a long time lets hope.

@username If you want to give us your opinion that's cool, other than that there is no need for two people to do the job of one. Also i sense too much spiritual ego, sort that out and then we talk.

This is going nowhere

@Dead_Mouse You still fail to take responsibility though. You don't need animal products to survive but you still pay others to slaughter and dismember animals for your taste pleasure.When you get criticized about it you bring up grass, cool story bro. Because of grass anecdotal blablabla, i can kill cows and pigs and baby chickens. Yeah you convinced me. There is no doubt you deliberately play stupid here, you know there is no reason to kill animals for food but you still fail to admit it to yourself. In case you didn't get it Alan meant that the cow suffers and the carrot doesn't. Why dont you tell me why it is justifiable to kill animals. How is it justifiable?

@Salaam The thing you mention here was the fact that gave birth to the whole topic and still it hasn't been clarified.

@eskwire That's the point

@username Ok we will finish tomorrow.

@username Ok lets wrap this up. Where are you going with this?

@username Independent

@username perfect

@username yes

@username yes

@username yes

@username yes, so?

@username yes

@username Because there would always be someone that believe it is.

@username I created the problem for me. If i didn't create the problem, it wouldn't be a problem for me. It would still be a problem in general though.