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@Leo Gura I'm so intrigued that you've never tried ayahuasca, I know you dont want to puke or purge but from all psychedelics I've studied so far, ayahuasca is the best one for healing because it heals on the DNA level. Im sure you have done your research but worth trying. Im sorry to hear that, health problems are the worst, can't believe how you create all this content dealing with pain.

@What Am I No, its called União do Vegetal, Santo Daime is more relaxed with their rules, they also add other plants to the brew besides mariri and chacrona, they smoke weed and do rapé after sessions. I have been once but the place was very sketchy, because UDV has more rules they are also more organized. It's so silly, like yeah we drink the most powerful psychedelic in the world even tho christ never spoke about it, like ayahuasca doesn't fit anywhere in christianity, and they go on condemning the use of any other psychedelics, it's a cult, and it's very patriarchal, the people leading the sessions are called mestre (like master) and the women cannot drink the tea alone or have only women ceremonies, only men lead sessions, they are against homosexuals, women cannot prepare the brew when they are menstruating cause they are dirty. I would take it and go within, trashing what didnt serve me. I got into so many heated discussions there lol we used to do sessions inside a community church and on the walls were paintings of women's body, not sexual, one of them was a black women pregnant and her belly was planet earth. They would cover all the walls, and they would let people ask questions in the sessions, whenever someone brought up sex, the covered images, or anything related to women they would just say "we dont talk about that" and meanwhile 50% of visions were naked women or sexual stuff (probably repressed stuff from my subconscious), I used to judge myself a lot, now I think it's beautiful, getting out of the church allowed me to remove the remaining beliefs from stage blue and start seeing my body as sacred. Spirituality nowadays became the new religion, it's funny how the roots of christianity are still ingrained in all of our minds. I do have a lot of visions, I never broke through with 5meo dmt, but I've tried it many times, apparently I had a high tolerance and was afraid to pump up the dose, I even went to a Martin Ball lecture to ask him, he told me to try salvia that would help break my mind open, then I stopped trying, the experiences I had before were too intense and reality shattering. After doing 5meo whenever I smoked weed, it would bring me back to the experience, like people are just figurative and didnt really exist and my vision would distort, I would look around my room and it was like a perspective drawing, I could see the nothingness behind everything, and I felt like reality was made of plastic lol like a scenario where they record a show or movie, I was getting Truman Showd lol then I went through a depressive phase of solipsism, nowadays I see how much that helped me with being more authentic. So funny you talked about bird, it reminded me of one of the times I did 5meo, I snorted and laid down, it was like the electrical current of the substance was more than my body could handle, I basically stopped breathing, but at the time I didn't have the knowledge that breathing is a construction of the mind, I got up desperate and went outside for air, when I went outside I started hearing this really loud noise inside my head, then I looked up and a bird was flying really really high, but at the same time the sounds of its wings flapping were inside my head, my mind was creating the bird and the noise, and not only I could hear him but I could understand the mechanism of the wings, it was like the bird was there just for me, to witness. A couple weeks after that I was putting gas in my car and it hit me really hard, that when I left my apartment the apartment cease to exist, unless I was there to witness, my mind was creating the apartment, the apartment was in my mind. I'm still integrating all of that, it was 5 years ago and it has never left me, I stopped thinking about what people think about me, because there is only me, I call it sacred fuck it. I wonder hjow it would be if I broke through.

@Jannes yeah currently recovering from my spiritual ego bubble of 8 years being burst lol I wouldn’t say this path has brought me happiness, my first Vipassana was a major awakening and I got out of there totally insane. Since then I’m becoming more and more insane, the spiritual path also brought me peace and acceptance of this insanity. So I guess self acceptance does bring some happiness. Would I do it again? Fuck yes

@What Am I yes, they call it hoasca. Only the vine and the leaf. Mariri and Chacrona. I used to be part of this ayahuasca church but was removed cause I have a channel talking about psychedelics and I also take other psychedelics, they don’t allow it. Also they are based in Christianity so the people at the top didn’t really like my controversial way of being. I’ve had many experiences with entities, I call them aliens but not sure what it is. I also had an experience with 5meo where those beings were ruminating my body to find how conscious I was. I try not to get too attached to the visions, wish there was more research and more people talking about so we could make sense of it. I do have this feeling that they feel bad for us being on earth and try to help. There was this one time the spaceship took me to this planet and I remember walking out of the ship and everything was so clean that I felt bad and dirty putting my feet in such a clean place. It was all metallic like high level tech and also some fluorescent colors, very futuristic. Mechanic but in a junglish way, it’s funny cause looking back now those experiences feel more real than any mundane day I’ve had in the past.

@Rafael Thundercat lololol so true!! We've been waiting for this course for a decade now

Lol there it goes your desire for Truth.

@Leo Gura can you please elaborate on that, almost doing crazy amounts of DMT to reach those levels. Every time I do ayahuasca the aliens take my body to I don't know where to do I don't know what and my mind is always fighting saying it's just a vision. Last one I was on a spaceship and they were rummaging my body, like an operation of some sort inside an MRI like machine. Something that I've noticed is that they receive/heal me like I'm coming from war, there is a sense of urgency, is planet earth war? So many questions.

@bambi I've had the party and still deal with the sex one, cocaine also got me very sick at some point, sugar and my phone are other ones but more socially acceptable. Oh wait, are we competing who is more addicted I just love the desperate, neurotic and addicts, whenever I coach people who have all the labels from society like depression, addiction, anxiety, TDAH, OCD etc, the way I see is that they are feeling all of that because they are alive, they are ready and ripe for change. While the calm people just seat there in front of me like a sheep waiting for me to take lead on their lives and tell them what to do, they are calm cause they are asleep, the body is moving but there is no one there. Some people die before they die, those are the calm ones, the anxious people are ready to go and make the moves, to change the world. The body is so wise, all that we feel, darkness, anxiety, addiction or whatever is basically our body communicating with us, if we know how to channel the energy and do the alchemy, this very darkness will be the raw material of our future life, we call it materia prima in portuguese, that is how we create, without friction there would be nothingness. I consider the weirdos more normal than the conformists sheep that are all calm, like wtf look at the world burning, how can you be so calm and collected? The anxious ones are the ones that are most aware, they are anxious because they care.

@Rafael Thundercat it’s either alien consciousness or pick up lines 🤣🤣 he doesn’t care about any other subjects, oh the contrasts of reality

@Rafael Thundercat Leonarda 🤣 i can’t wait to hear about alien consciousness, he keeps talking about it but doesn’t spill the beans.

@QVx I think the intention of the thread is exactly that, seeing his blind spots so we don’t put him on a pedestal. Instead of doing the same you came here to defend him, should I assume you have a Saint Leo in your altar?

@bambi yes I have a very addictive personality, if I don't go to the gym the doors of hell are wide open lol or if I don't have the focus on my purpose. But also everyone is an addict nowadays, nicotine, caffeine, psychedelics, sex.. call it whatever. Our addictions is what keep us alive and help us cope with reality, not to blame society or play the victim but we live in a very toxic world. I see addictions as a pacifier to a child, notice that most of them are taking in through the mouth, or are related to the body. So I don't call them addictions or obsessions anymore, I call it passions pick your poison, working out is a great one, diving into your craft your purpose is another one.

@bambi you never get rid of the addiction, you replace them with good ones. Addictions/ obsessions are what moves us in a way. It means we are alive. The calm people are the ones who conform the most, the anxious, addicted and neurotic that keep the world going. Like anybody can tell you, I am not a very nice man. I don't know the word. I have always admired the villain, the outlaw, the son of a bitch. I don't like the clean-shaven boy with the necktie and the good job. I like desperate men, men with broken teeth and broken minds and broken ways. They interest me. They are full of surprises and explosions. I also like vile women, drunk cursing bitches with loose stockings and sloppy mascara faces. I'm more interested in perverts than saints. I can relax with bums because I am a bum. I don't like laws, morals, religions, rules. I don't like to be shaped by society. From Bukowski, but he was an alcoholic lol

@integral even the ones at stage orange, I think the extreme rationality is stronger than the religious one from blue. Cause it has more basis in facts and logic. There are also men at stage green super connected to higher levels of consciousness with their buns and loose pants but denying stage orange 🤣

@bambi this video about addiction will give you some good insights Rich roll was an alcoholic too

@integral indeed I’m becoming a better woman but all I’ve done in my relationships is to destroy their sand castles. Men hate to be intellectually challenged by women, it’s on us to be wise enough to let them think we are less smart and they are the good ones

@Yimpai love bitches 🤣 sheela was a complete bitch

@Princess Arabia also we dont want to know only about attraction, we also want Truth now I will stop my judgements cause he has helped me tons! Like we say in Brazil, don't spit on the plate that fed you.

@integral also the fact the gave up on us is very sad, like whatever half the population does or thinks, I will just help men manipulate women. It's sad cause we watch his content and knowing he is focusing only on men makes us question. They say women are complicated and men are simple but when I see the whole spiral into the mind realm I tend to think the ways of the heart are quite more simple and practical, while the mind is a maze. I think his approach also comes from his own suffering with women and how he got into pick up. What I truly feel is that he has a certain despise/ hatred towards all women, maybe because he doesn't understand how we work lol it's a loop, he is in a loop like us.

@integral I think women are not that simple, like Osho said "Woman is to be loved, not understood" and Leo is very much in his rationality, even his videos about love are very logical. We know what we want, a nice guy that has the capacity to kill, many men that are too nice are also extremely feminine so we tend to go to the bad guys cause his masculine energy (even when toxic) shows we will be provided and protected. I partially agree cause Im in this loop, so I will give him that.

@Princess Arabia oh yes, he never answers any of my questions here, if I create a new account as a guy asking about pick up I will be answered right away lol Very refreshing to read your comment, thank you!

@Davino I also find it very interesting, not sure where he is gonna get with all of that extreme scientism but Im here to watch, prefer watching the crazies than the normies, it's like watching Elon Musk, not a dull day. @PsychedelicEagle Love reading the comments, havent analyzed him from SD perspective, he is evolving, once he hits green and yellow things will be even more interesting. He is not the first to see aging as a disease, David Sinclair says that too. I try to think that everything that exists in reality serves a purpose, nothing is random and god is not dumb. My critic is that he is focusing too much on the body and not much in the mind, to live forever with a shitty mind is not wise.

@Rafael Thundercat so interesting what he says about the shamans keeping people sick so they would come back, basically what the pharmaceutical industry is doing. Ayahuasca has taken me to crazy realms, but I've always done it in very safe and organized places, I can see how things can get crazy very easily. I also think that no entities can attach to us, unless our shadow is not fully integrated, which is what he says in the video. Im from Brazil and spiritual people have a habit of saying everything is entities, they call it "obsessors" so whenever their shadow comes up and something goes wrong they say it's evil spirits, just so they dont need to take full ownership of their journey. I did an aya ceremony a month ago and when I was throwing up I started hearing a voice saying "give it to me now" "give me everything" and it was not the only time, every time I purge I go into this red reality where all the gunk goes to, vomit, poop or whatever. And every single time I know exactly what I am purging, hatred, envy, evil stuff from my shadow. It's like there are beings in those lower realities that feeds off of that evil stuff. So crazy, Stanislav Grof talks about this red realm in one of his books. Matt kahn has a video talking about the evil spirits that people see, he says that its a result of unintegrated shadow, sometimes people deny, suppress and repress their shadow so much that it creates an entity outside themselves. I think the best way to assess someone's level of consciousness is by looking at their body language, in his videos Russell brand cant help it, he is all over the place, there is no harmony or stillness. What do tou think it made Fisher take his own life?

It was so painful to watch him go downhill, another guy who went crazy is Brian Bose, not that he was ever good but good lord, looks like those guys are possessed by bad spirits, and mind me Im very skeptical about dark entities, spirits or whatever, he recorded a little documentary about his ayahuasca trip and it's sad to say but his trip reinforced his ego more than it destroyed, he is so self absorbed. I was watching this podcast with Rich Roll and Mark Manson and he was talking about addictive personalities, he said the addict never stops being an addict, he just switches to a healthier addiction, like working out, creating a business etc. In Rich Rolls case he used to be an alcoholic, now he runs ironman races, he said if he was not addicted to running he would probably go back to alcohol. I guess that's what happened to Russel Brand, wrong focus, it was either ex-crazed heroin addict or maga lol So fascinating how complex humans are, given that he is stage green. I also think how much of what he talks is to please his followers, given that he seems to be pretty attached to his identity.

@Princess Arabia never noticed that lol I wish he was more conscious when it comes to women, he still calls us girls. But well he couldn't be perfect, I fucking love his content.