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@Zeroguy @Zeroguy and you think laughing at my comment makes you an independent mind thinker? I never said I follow Leo or Matt Kahn, I investigate things and that is the reason why I open up the space to know more about the topic, if I did believe him I would not be here open to discussions. On the other side, I didn't see any comment about the connection of psychedelics and breathing coming from you. You actually "parroted" the above comment and said: Agreed on this, agreed on that. Who is the one following what others say? I see lots of projection..

@Zeroguy Did not understand your point, you agreed twice with the other person but did not elaborate.

@Raptorsin7 it's not a cult. Matt Kahn has a very heart centered approach, even though I don't agree with everything he says, I see a lot of value in his work. Are you familiar with his teachings? maybe you are more on your mind, that is why you can't grasp what he says.

Ai I love this forum!

Yasss!!! There is more here if you want to look into it. http://www.tantra-essence.com/2013/05/in-profile-osho-body/

Tantra teaches you to reclaim respect for the body, love for the body. Tantra teaches you to look at the body as the greatest creation of God. Tantra is the religion of the body. Of course it goes higher, but it never leaves the body; it is grounded there. It is the only religion which is really grounded in the earth: it has roots. Other religions are uprooted trees -- dead, dull, dying; the juice does not flow in them. I love Osho just because he was the only sage that spoke about the body, all the other spiritual teachers deny or repress this big part of our lives, our vehicle to be here. We ONLY have our body, why not take care of it, right?

@Vynce That's an interesting topic, thank you for posting! In the last 5 years I've used psychedelic in a meditative state and recently I've started introducing microdoses (well a little more on the higher side) to my practices. I've noticed I can sync with my body more easily, which I believe happens because psychedelics break the boundaries of the body and also the blockages (traumas) we've accumulated throughout our lives. I've tried with poi spinning balls, slackline, weight lifting, running, I haven't had the courage to introduce it into skydiving lol but my friend uses weed (I know its not psychedelic but can bring some good insights) inside wind tunnels (indoor skydiving) I will ask about his experience. But overall what I find is that our body has an internal wisdom, the more we let go of control and surrender to the body, the more it will do its thing in a most precise and optimal way. Getting in the zone is another thing, one day I learned so many new tricks on the slackline because of an LSD microdose. I felt like a child, I kept failing but instead of giving up (which is what the adult solid and inflexible mind does) the LSD brought me to that child like mind which is keep trying and have fun, don't be embarrassed to fail, and wow. It's just crazy. I wish more research was done into this field. This quote from Osho came to my mind, about our connection with our body. The first thing is the body. The body is your base, it is your ground, it is where you are grounded. To make you antagonistic towards the body is to destroy you, is to make you schizophrenic, is to make you miserable, is to create hell. You are the body. Of course, you are more than the body, but that 'more' will follow later on. First you are the body. The body is your basic truth, so never be against the body. Whenever you are against the body, you are going against God. Whenever you are disrespectful to your body, you are losing contact with reality, because your body is your contact. Your body is your bridge. Your body is your temple. Tantra teaches reverence for the body, love, respect for the body, gratitude for the body. The body is marvelous. It is the greatest of mysteries. But you have been taught to be against the body. So sometimes you are over-mystified by the tree by the green tree -- sometimes mystified by the moon and the sun, sometimes mystified by a flower, but never mystified by your own body. And your body is the most complex phenomenon in existence. No flower, no tree has such a beautiful body as you have. No moon, no sun, no star has such an evolved mechanism as you have. But you have been taught to appreciate the flower, which is a simple thing. You have been taught to appreciate a tree, which is a simple thing. You have even been taught to appreciate stones, rocks, mountains, rivers, but you have never been taught to respect your own body, never to be mystified by it. Yes, it is very close, so it is very easy to forget about it. It is very obvious, so it is easy to neglect it. But this is the most beautiful phenomenon. If you look at a flower, people will say 'How aesthetic!' And if you look at a woman's beautiful face or a man's beautiful face, people will say 'This is lust.' If you go to the tree, and stand there, and look in a dazed state at the flower -- your eyes wide open, your senses wide open to allow the beauty of the flower to enter you -- people will think you are a poet or a painter or a mystic. But if you go to a woman or a man and just stand there with great reverence and respect, and look at the woman with your eyes wide open and your senses drinking the beauty of the woman, the police will catch hold of you. Nobody will say that you are a mystic, a poet, nobody will appreciate what you are doing. Something has gone wrong.

@Tudo its my dream too!! I had mentally given up already, but then I posted on the facebook group offering help to the community and was received with lost of love, then in the end I could even choose which camp I would join. Your time will come! @Asayake I know right?? Leo never mentioned the in person events anymore, I met one of my best friends here in the forum, it would be so awesome an actualized camp!! I will report back. Thank you!!

@Vincent S About the color, we are basically kids in an adult body, the color is most likely going to attract us more lol

@Vincent S they even have songs about it. My friend had some and I asked but what is it? And first she said coke, then she said 2CB, then she said only Colombians and Venezuelans have it. Her friend who provided was Colombian. I didnt even think to do some research, grateful for this post. It's so crazy how that woman "queen of tuci" does not care about people, it shocked me. She said her job was just to get people hooked on it, very sad.

@Vincent S Thank you for posting this!! Such a coincidence because I was offered some this last weekend but thought it was weird that it was pink. They call it tulsi.

@Leo Gura any updates here Leo?

I watched the video below a couple weeks ago, and I know the lady talking is very young but she's gotta a point. She is basically talking about how we get rigid and bitter as we become an adult, that the simple things that should bring us joy are overlooked and sometimes invisible for us. I find that psychedelics bring back this side of pure curiosity and exploration, and thanks to those substances I can say I have a happier life, and that I laugh more, and that I enjoy the simple things more. I'm not saying that we should be irresponsible and not take things seriously but all this seriousness does not bring us anything good. Have you noticed that when you smile your whole body relaxes instantly? I just learned this with my skydiving buddy, it's a little trick to help the body deal with the fear and adrenaline. When I watched this video I could see how much serious I became. Now I'm basically trying to bring that sense of wonder back into my life, I'm trying things I never tried, I'm more comfortable with failure (you know a child who doesn't really care about looking embarrassed?) and I also increased my curiosity. This subject brings me so much joy that I wanted to come here and create a new post in this thread that is called (off-topic: fun) Something I look for in my spiritual teachers is humor, I get so happy when I see Leo wearing a hat on Christmas, or playing with the juggling balls, or out in Vegas dancing, it shows me is human side. We all have this side, but why do we hide? Why are we so serious? Even when we have it all together? even when we know this is all a dream? Thank you for reading

@aurum @Leo Gura Thank you!!!

Hello!! I have a channel and IG page where I talk about psychedelics. I don't do any work with them on people (only on myself). But my page and channel are growing really fast and have so many people contacting me for information that I feel it's time to create something so I'm working on my website and since I got a certification as a Life Coach I think I could do a blend of self development+psychedelics. However, I don't want to be irresponsible about it. Psychedelics are illegal in most countries. I'm currently in US (California) and my audience is in Brazil, because my content is in Portuguese. So my questions is, can I create courses talking about psychedelics, of course with no use of substances etc, integration sessions, and of course implement my coaching skills? Or would that be too risky? @Leo Gura Leo your opinion would be much appreciated, Im an architect and am in the transition towards my life purpose. I've read countless books and participated in many workshops/ lectures about psychedelics. It's my passion to help people, and also to bring this fascinating subject that are psychedelics to the light. I've thought about doing a master in psychology but am not very happy about the idea of paying 30K and studying 3 more years + to wait for psychedelics to become legal. Please let me know your thoughts on it. Thank you all for reading!

@puporing Yes, I think giving advice about psychedelics it's a grey area. I will definitely consult with a lawyer before I start. Do you work with psychedelics as well? Another thing that might be an issue is that my background is in architecture, not related to the medical/health field. Thank you for responding Loved your quote.

If I my add to the conversation, the fact that you call a vagina a passive hole says SO much. I would invite you to rethink your relationship with women and the divine feminine, because we shall all agree that if the vagina was a "passive" hole you would not have come out of it, right? The womb hides the secrets of the universe. Having a bad relationship with the sacred feminine means denying your own true nature. How could you love the female body, breasts and ass and reject the center where everything comes from? I have never had sex with a woman but I would be open to it, I'm not grossed out by vaginas. I am super attracted to dicks but I think vaginas are beautiful and like Leo said a work of art, there is no comparison both are marvelous in their own way. I also feel a sense of envy when you say that women don't feel drained and have full body orgasms. I would invite you to investigate that too. Question it from a place of curiosity, not from a defensive one. Wishing you love in your journey, and remember we don't even know you, our opinion does not matter, what matters if how you feel with yourself.

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This is so cool!!! Thank you

@Someone here Yes, I think he is too lost in the fame and does not play just because it's his passion, he is indeed still immature. If he got serious about it would be great. Pele was very dedicated, Ronaldinho too.

@Husseinisdoingfine God is in everything my dear. He/we created it all so we could delight in it. I have a poem by Thich Nhat Hanh for you since you don't like TV. Don’t say that I will depart tomorrow— even today I am still arriving. Look deeply: every second I am arriving to be a bud on a Spring branch, to be a tiny bird, with still-fragile wings, learning to sing in my new nest, to be a caterpillar in the heart of a flower, to be a jewel hiding itself in a stone. I still arrive, in order to laugh and to cry, to fear and to hope. The rhythm of my heart is the birth and death of all that is alive. I am a mayfly metamorphosing on the surface of the river. And I am the bird that swoops down to swallow the mayfly. I am a frog swimming happily in the clear water of a pond. And I am the grass-snake that silently feeds itself on the frog. I am the child in Uganda, all skin and bones, my legs as thin as bamboo sticks. And I am the arms merchant, selling deadly weapons to Uganda. I am the twelve-year-old girl, refugee on a small boat, who throws herself into the ocean after being raped by a sea pirate. And I am also the pirate, my heart not yet capable of seeing and loving. I am a member of the politburo, with plenty of power in my hands. And I am the man who has to pay his “debt of blood” to my people dying slowly in a forced-labor camp. My joy is like Spring, so warm it makes flowers bloom all over the Earth. My pain is like a river of tears, so vast it fills the four oceans. Please call me by my true names, so I can hear all my cries and laughter at once, so I can see that my joy and pain are one. Please call me by my true names, so I can wake up and the door of my heart could be left open, the door of compassion.

@tedens is this substance legal?

@Leo Gura Leo what did you decide here?