ValiantSalvatore

I wanted to post this, simply to contemplate bias and I sort of guilt tripped myself, I sometimes feel double-standards and question myself and at the end I am often the beign less biased. I hope this can serve more as a contemplation tool, the dating section of this forum is partially a mess, so more women can feel inclined to share their worldview and also biases. Which is interesting otherwise life would be boring at times if not for the opposite sex/gender lol. Well.... for any doubters, maybe I should at one point proclaim I am a ray ray saint, I dunno how I can score so low with my level of humour at times. Feel free to doubt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambivalent_sexism

That is interesting does show me a lot though, how people associate also why some of my friends complain about certain countries. Anyway. Needless drama and not very serious about eliminating bias. I ignored both users beforehand, that is the irony of it. Would still be cool if others would post results, and would be willing to engage in a somewhat non-trolling discussion. I could at least then stop blocking one user. Some are disinterested in acting less biased. At least that would up the quality of the forum, this just proofs some correct choices.The idea is to provide self-reflection and inclusion not ego ridiculement. I am not going to answer any of this as long as I smell hidden manipulation, trolling and horsing around and just delete the thread. Dude I could have ended up in 2 open relationships and do game. I would prefer not reading people like a book online.

Nootropics Depot is great, although German customs seized the stuff and checked every tiny corner of it, in the end they gave it to me. This seller does not get seized by customs for me in Germany. As Nootropics Depot is an american company and everything that is not considerd E.U has giga strict controls. https://mindnutrition.com/ Aliexpress is how China does business, when I was there you can check for yourself and as long as it's not a large quantity of money, I ordered a phone from a chinese shop it was pretty solid. I would compare the certificate of analysis if I'd be serious about buying it and check other stuff from sellers. AliExpress can be legit at least that is how I did business in China in e-commerce lol, although there is a risk at hand, I would double check possible issues. If you have a chinese friend ask him/her, if he thinks it's legit. The company I worked for bought so many products over this plattform it was wild. I'd prefer quality I mosty looked into the research of how stuff was extracted etc. Nootropics Depot is by far cheaper and has IIRC similar extraction methods for lionsmane mushrooms etc. Mindnutrition is also very good! A bit pricy, although affordable. Full disclosure: I never personally ordered something from there, I did e-commerce type business with products from there. In China.

Ken Wilber, because he resonated with me beign a military kid and him also, I could relate to the kick-ass healthy energy of rebellion for love and peace. As well as the pain of contemplating war and how brutal humans are. I was so happy someone legit explored and wrote down things I've been interested in, and I am still not done studying it! As well as injustice although I admire his impartiality at times.

I was vegan during this time and or vegeterian I watched some parts of the video from Sadghuru about this and wanted to include the information. I'd say it's possible, yet you have to be an exeptional human beign and life style has to fit, I dunno how much mental work is beign impacted by it. I feel a bit better with more sleep and time to think creatively and relax. Currently my intention is to stop rushing against the clock. So yeah still wondering changing internally a lot here. I was not very structural strategic about it more pragmatic and holistic listening to how I feel, reporting and optimizing. With a focus on self-actualization working out a lot 1h30 a day in the gym approx. I was fit a.f I am now 12kg lighter, yet I think I damage my joints even with stretching and had an inflammation, I dunno how well this fits with exercise this is my experience I went through parts of a holistic health book and he recommends going to bed by 10:30 and waking up at 6:00am approx IIRC. I am doing this and I feel way more whole usually. Although I struggle because of internet addiction and rigidty at times of goals etc.

I tried it in extrem periods and while exercising also a siesta sleep cycle, if you are not some superhuman I would not do it, I just hurt myself and got injured. Been through the same stuff, asked someone else who is more fit. I would not recommend it. Only other reference experience I have is from audiobooks where it would from a chinese master and that was a referene of a reference, when I can't sleep I focus on restful qualities and just accept I can't sleep and meditate like this, this is more and or less effective. I don't think it's sustainable. I was not able to do it consistently and it did not really help me. You can meditate also when you dream, I tried those techniques also, and dream yoga all-in all it was to much. I dunno if it works for you that is cool. If you want to do it strategically I'd say it's fine, yet if you can develop this superhman sleep cycle and not injure yourself and be engage in western living, then yes. I would get 7-8h of sleep and do some dream yoga to explore the subtle releam if you can hold a 3h practice and have that much time, yet if you are living a 9-5 and are executing I understand the pressure, I am looking to do more activity based meditations like meditating while exercising etc. Holding awareness during the idea 10 second practice here, 10 second practice there etc. Differntiating when to use thinking as a tool and move more towards a "no-mind" experience. Also I would recommend joining some "real community" if possible so you see people that you enjoy hanging-out with and are beneficial to your spirital growth and journey. I hope this helps! If you can do it without hurting yourself sure, I struggled immensely with 6h30 of sleep and stopped I attempted to go for 4h30 - 6h30 of sleep with sleep cycles and train dream yoga etc. It was way way to much. I would exhaust energy with exercise and meditate in activity (what I did) as my seated practice is not the strongest still struggling because of "genetic injury". I would attempt it again with a better health routine, I just noticed so much is wrong about health it takes a while to do all of this.

@Kshantivadin You're welcome! It would be awesome if others share their list from their direct experience and reading, as well as note-taking. I bet there are more than 65 principles and the video is 4 years old and Leo changes a lot. I bet he'd even reduce the list to some extend.

I watched it, this is more from direct experience what I wrote, so I verify it for myself instead of only watching in a sense.

I'll make one up as far as I can tell, I am fairly well-read although there is stuff I'd also implement: Doctor check-ups and dentist Filtered water Conscious relationships to extend possible/community Psychdelics Yoga/Meditation Retreats Life-Long Learning Leadership mastery Creating love and compassion Art and beauty (in immediate environment) Stellar life purpose No addictions nicotine, subtle ones anger, hatred, drama, ignorance, avoidance, Assertivness facing challenges Open-Minded Direct, calm and friendly/positive Mastery of a subject minimum Financially secure and well-off for spiritual work Adventure! 100% and retreats Integration of western and eastern principles about consciouness work (like Ken Wilber, Yin and Yang etc.) Knowing how to deal with the opposite sex in relationships and sex Healing and trauma work to some extend imo Creating and creativity of something that has value to others and is not oversaturated at best Quality sleep and quantity (might be underrated) Understanding stockmarket and finance Investing Basline understanding of politics Mastering inner psychology, suffering, success Beign free of self-image Acting from insight and consciouness Conscious families (although that is super-rare) Integrity the best feeling I have acting in the real world is acting from deepseated integrity with unbiased believes and from values I myself came up with and developed (value section of lp) Having a map for others, oterwise they are lost and disorient themselves, that can even include things like MBTI, Mission Statement, Vision etc. Exercise Learning from success instead of only from failure Visualizations for life purpose, goals etc. Following conscious success principles (I don't have them consciously in mind, Deepak Chopra has for example 7laws of spiritual success) Having enough free time to follow passion and acting in wu-wei doing what you love 100% of the time Learning andd taking notes Baseline improvment Loving discipline No manipulation and control letting go of this Focusing on a few of these principles Look out for the counter-intutive approaches Beign original and creating something unique Developing divine&healthy masculinity and femininity - challenges for men mostly Big-picture view instead of technical analysis More action, less theory on a few principles with self-experimentation Not re-inventing the wheel Going to the original source Sobriety using time well 100% instead of notion of society of sobriety (be clean, show up to work, be sheep like 1984) Mastery principles loving the plateu, getting feedback, touching base with a highly competent teacher Learning from martial arts, and I presume dance?? for the opposite sex and practicing that in real life Understanding strategy and optimization to get more juice out of whatever you are doing Non-judgement Holistic synthesis Knowing how to present yourself and public speaking&"leadership abillity to speak to others" Conscious communication (did a few workshop bouts with Shinzen, very powerful although the topic was not all to relevant, instead the, Yes, but I am better and smarter type of conversations that breed resentments and leaves others feeling unheared, causes drama etc.) Beign social and connecting with others Not over-isolating one self and playing power games with others Understanding and integrating god-realization (still no clue, yet very curious) Again acting from insight! (I re-listned to Ralston audiobook and I find this powerful, while exercising I was giving my best to learn these principles actively) Active learning!!! Participate don't be a passive bystander Embrace diverstiy and create move harmony Balance with the true flavour of balance, not neutrality and or rationality even though they can be part of the balancing process! Priorities and cleanliness, creating order in immediate environment Non-dogmatic Learning from scratch Principles first thinking v.s holistic deductivness (my own words) breaking the whole in parts understanding sub-holons etc. ---- I am unsure what else to include, I listend to the audiobook principles a couple of times (with quick notes...), so it's mostly about counter-intutiveness and following principles doing the stuff most don't want to do. Like meditation and yoga as a baseline practice and retreats with psychdelics. As a stable practice as this is pretty rough to pull off, as well as staying healthy exercising on top of that, most have a lot of commitments, and don't create such things. I'd say what would be the core of the principles. I am unsure there is one thing I would include for hardcore guys that is lifting, yoga&meditation and or psychdelics and I mean just lifting, as Wilber recommends it, gave him massive growths and a lot of psychdelics depth I've had after an exhaustive training, if you can lifting, go to a sauna and know about physiology I bet you can lift psychdelic growth for state experiences. That is mostly it. I struggle implementing this, I give my best.

@Thought Art I've re-read some parts of it as of lately, as I wanted to create a bed-time insight chamber, the book was written in such complicated chinese, the author who translated it could not fully translate it. Still amazes me and IIRC the book is also from an enlightend beign. I only read it once and took notes and action, what a sham though that book is truely amazing.

Everything in thick face black heart applied. The book itself is super-powerful imo, if you are in a position of power.

@Thought Art That song reminds me of good rock music lol, I love Korn. This is the most conscious rant I have seen so far.

If humans would outsource themselves, the would be the highest peak of self-hatred in a sense, I don't think that is what A.I is designed to do, it's more about creation and optimization for the sake of human related issues, that humans alone can't solve. Like building a skyscraper alone is close to impossible, yet with a crane and thousands of humans, and/or other tools it's possible. I dunno I believe in Yoda, maybe I am delusional. Humans will find a way to outsmart anything I feel. I pretty sure A.I can help with art, as a brush does it for a painter, it mostly depends what tools someone likes, and which tools. I mean the A.I always has to be feed with a certain amount of data ... if it's not feed any data and can't generate it on it's own, there is nothing new happening it will only work within it's constraints. It certains helps to generate ideas, I think it should be compatible, although I might be wrong. They even show the data feed for the A.I https://openai.com/blog/jukebox/ A great musican can turn anything into art, I'd say this is pretty cool inspiration I love musican and I am an A.I fan.. so I am biased, yet I would never listen to music generated by this A.I. I heared to an artist just rant about it, and I think it's heavily biased, and judgemental against the A.I, yet I figure this is just what it is currently... I also don't like some topics, yet I think it can be used as an inspiration, and I would support humans first and A.I second. If there needs to be the choice.

Repression of sexuality, after my dating adventure I looked a bit into sexology and it was used for example by churches and kings for birth control, so the rich stay rich and the poor poor, in stage blue ethnocentric driven cultures in europe etc. Many never developed quality and go for the path of least resistance, the highest quality relationships are of people who are mostly attuned to nature and ethics in a way, and have a loving relationship instead of materalism with TV and are working pretty hard and have a connection to spirituality and great friendships. Which is super rare. Don't see relationships as mastery process Abundance of porn and sexual material creates false expectations Excess individuality of stage orange, (middle class invented sexual fetishes etc.) I think smth. akin to this as it was allowed, historically.... see nowadays the good middle class will most likely be in favour of this kind of liberty without taking spirituality into account. I think porn is fine, for example just apparently is not the greatest for some couples. All religions teach this, and it's a surivial mechanism to maximize pleasure and reduce suffering, and many do whatever they want recklessly as long as this is present Apparently there is happiness beyond conditions, this is what I wanted to work upon with Shinzen... Because you have a body I'd say without a physical system that does not elicit pain, there would not be the believe, unfortunate cirumstance of karma... in that way, cause and effect. Manipulation, gasligting, power dynamics, being made fun of, anxiety, fear trauma. Ego and power, as well as a lack of integrity. Not a single leader as smart and competent disambiguating power in power to stay in power and don't act from power. At least this is my pov..., yet he/she still has to hold power otherwise this does not work. See Ken Wilber as leader of integral I never get the sense that he is in power, yet he has power and is in power in a sense of the community there, and also has been. I might have seen one holistic leader who is capeable, of it as LC's support it...' Translogical power would be the key term, I've learned. Also lack of healing and compassion. Here goes me...

@uriel Other question what are you doing in tech regarding A.I? Are you into machine learning or deep learning? What are your responsibilities? My life purpose is to head into A.I, some of this stuff is so heavily mathematically favoured, that someone said you might as well could do a Ph.D to be one of the best so to speak, I also read that this is sort of a toxic academia mindset, to be the best. I am doing a masters in applied cs. I dunno I feel similar to music, yet I was never supported in the endeavour, when I went to music school as a kid, as my parents just fundamentally left me alone. I can't play a single instrument anymore. It was also only a 4 year+ programm. What do you feel can you create space to make a living out of music and still call it a passion?

@Bando I dunno ultimately, and I don't care all to much.

The point is spiral dynamics is about values, and not about development itself the cook-greuter model is about ego-development. Wilber is not on the highest level of development he is centered at approximately causal witness state as a permanent structure-state (in one taste he reports this) - he could have gone beyond and could be centered at non-dual There is a distinction between structure-states and state-stages State-stages are sufficient, but not neccessary for growth in structure-states Structure states is the permanent realization of the next higher state-stage You can be at stage green structurally (cognitively and value based) and have spiritual non-dual state-stage realization. Spirituality is the highest line of "intelligence" so to say. State-stages can be reached by "peak experiences" meditation, "psychdelics" (I bet no research), yoga, some spiritual practice, eventually even exercise and fluke luck. As far as I know these values can first develop when the cogntive development (neccessary ego-development) has taken place Spiral dynamics can only play itself out when the neccessary cognitive development is there Some philosophers were outliers who surpassed this, Leo mentioned some of them in his blog and the intro about philosophy video Growth occures to current "scientific" understandings with 30 minutes of meditation alone and beign aware of integral theory and spiral dynamics. (Idealistic information I am sharing here) Growth occures approx. every 2 years and after ages 20-29 every 5 years one new stage is reached with consistent practice Stage turqouise is still within the ego.... it's not beyond the ego, yet it's the first that actively seeks to be more transpersonal, instead of green fadish spirituality, there is a deeper consistency with practices and going beyond the ego becomes a desire (see Maslow transpersonal stages), peak experiences etc. become more of the norm Depending on life circumstances, you can drop in SD development, yet hitting one stage makes it permanent even when you spiral down, if LC's (life conditions) are meet you are there again. Ex: Many who hit green in academia then go back into the real world who are disappointed with post-modern lifestyles re-engage in materalistic excess of orange, even when they still have the capacity to go back to Green any time. As far as I know Spinoza is mentioned a couple of times with Hegel in Wilbers books, I don't study this academically, my raw intuition would have put him and Hegel at around Yellow with their idealism and it seems very system-thinking like. I think Leo also mentions that we could educate ourselves about them if you are more serious about philosophy in his intro to philosophy video, mostly using Wikipedia. I don't like Nietzschians, they seem very stage red to me with some green, yet mostly toxic. I like Hegel, although I don't like studying western philosophy that deeply, it takes a lot of time. If you want to grow you could directly go to the source at integrallife and study the courses there I did integral mindfulness to get a taste of all stages within spiral dynamics as a structure-stage and it's corresponding values - expression of stage when realized. I don't think it's neccessary, I would just look at the video from Leo about philosohpy and read up on Wikipedia takes notes and ideally do psychedelics and read Wilber, as well as watch videos for growth. Or dive right into the research the paper from O'Fallon seems to be the latest addition to the ego-development model (abillity to take perspective...). Sri Aurobindo was the one who inspired Wilber, who came up with the stages stuff, I believe... before Graves and Beck for Spiral Dynamics. In an older audiobook it's mentioned traveling and journaling can nudge you up 0.5 stages, especially if you are young 20-29 max, as far as I know. Wilber also mentions that weightlifting helped him to grow and he regrets not having it done early to facillitate growth in consciouness better phrased ego-development. Fundamentally, you need to have a spiritual practice as a baseline to grow. This is all the info I have to this topic I hope it clarifies stuff. Also, this certainly does not fixing dating actually makes it harder. I wrote all of this rather naively and idealistically, this certainly does not apply to everyone.

There is no way, as a German I frankly found him the only likeable philosopher of the rationals, tbh. I presonally find them all laughable. That is legit funny. I like Greeks more, I bet even Euclid was a better philosopher than Kant. Heraclitus is mah man. Sorry, I love to hate on Germans at times.

Thanks for saying that , truth hurts one thing I noticed when I went very deep. It was very eye-opening though got a taste of what consciouness really is about. Now I get more minor entries to this, I still get very emotional when I enter near that area. I never had an ego-death experience. It was more a form of union with consciouness and nature, as a state experience.

I did truffles also with cannabis, they were so weak for me I barely noticed anything and it reminded me more of MDMA, that was the first time I ever did shrooms and I took a medium dose, I think with a friend. The trip was almost to chill, just good vibes and some love. Might aid in the perspective as info. It was Atlantis truffles. We drank them infused with lemon ginger tea. I would not measure experience by amount, yet by quality and quantity of trips, as well as ability to explain and make sense of the experiences spiritually. I pretty much always meditate with intentions before, that aids for some groundding.

I dunno, I've never done DMT I only done it once and it was to intense for me. I am extremely visual internally, although the last trips I did last year have been not as deep visually as the first 10 I get internal geometry type stuff. So in terms of a psychonaut I am still pretty newbie. You can certainly nudge with smaller doses, never do what you can't handle. This is my reference experience, hope it has value to you!

Ranges were from 200-600mcg mostly, I smoked at least 0.5-1.5g max of weed/cannabis most likely on the duration of the trip. At one point it did not help anymore and it was also to much at times. I smoked also pure. First time I did it was approx 400 on 1P-LSD with approx the same amount of cannabis as you . This was 6 years ago. Was my first and only baby-horror trip, although in retrospect I learned a lot about my shadow self, as I did shadow work during that time (3-2-1 process which is a mild cogntive based strategy...) and the setting was with a person I did not like. Depending on length of the exercise, it can be done also a bit deeper. I tripped approx.... 22 times after the first trip without cannabis, eventually also with some cannabis I can't recall every trip. I am approx 30+- 5 into tripping with LSD, so still relatively newbie and intermediate. It was interesting to explore, can vouch definitely with nudging and experience, I am unsure I never went for a breakthrough dose. In case if that could be a question, for deepning and prolonging I can vouch at one point it becomes the norm sorta. (Now 3-4 months without any tripping). Integration went farily smooth, yet my spiritual work was off during this time, and my deepest trip was meditating for 8h on LSD, with some cannabis eventually could have been. Definitely smoked afterwards at a retreat which was also interesting to see, how that connects.

Cannabis and LSD mixed fairly well for me, I am not an in-depth expert, yet psychdelic strains such as silver-haze and super-silver-haze worked for me, and prolonged the trip and deepend the trip. I did this for approx 8-12x or, so I am unsure it was pretty deepening for me everytime. Also lacing cannabis with hash, was pretty good. Can vouch, I would recommend vaping/vaporizing, if possible because of health, I did not do that during that time. Super silver haze was pretty insane and enjoyable, although fear hold me back to go deeper. I also used hash, like honey hash and indica based hash. I could not take to much of that, Terrence McKenna recommends it post DMT trips to calm down. IIRC. I don't have the link to this, info it was in some video of him.

I did a quick Google search only, yes apparently there is something like this, also the insurance can pay some of it if you have a more severe health issues. I did not dive into the technicalities. The test you send me would suffice for now, as it's a lot of effort thank you again!

Thanks I'll keep it in mind. Just saw it costs 24€ per heavy metal, by going to a doctor lol that is expensive.