Visionary

I use it for healing my bro. Shrooms bring me in an incredible shamanic space where the Higher Self completely takes over. Last time i felt Spirit entering the space and it was pouring into my body through the crown chakra. It's actually soul retrieval (which happens through the inner healer) or retrieval of soul particles. Which result in a restoration of the energetic system as Truth gets integrated through the embodiment of the Soul/Higher Self. These plants are truly sacred and should be treated with utmost respect. They can really show the blind spots we have. Edit: and no i'm not seeing ultimate self-realization through it. But i think its speeding up the process guided by Grace.

@LfcCharlie4 ofc brother, i gotta say i'm still using mushrooms every two months next to weekly transmissions even though people who give these transmissions have adviced against it. I think my body handles it incredibly nice and the combination is superb. Maybe this shows that experimenting is very useful and we don't need to pick sides. At all. However, acid seemed to be causing a lot of side effects in my case. Different chakras were really affected by it. My throat (chakra also) felt very inflamed for example. Like there was lots of 'dirty' energy stored up. Lots of rash on my body too. And sweating with a disgusting odor. You could really tell it was a chemical. I stopped using it and healed everything. I feel a lot more clean. Acid would sometimes get me in a trance too. Like completely blacking out. For some reason it worked a lot on my third eye. I think there might've been entities attaching to me while in these trance states (speaking in click alien tongues etc.). I certainly do not regret it. I've had 2 of the biggest breakthroughs/encounters with my Higher Self with it. But i'm glad i quit. Might try some time in the future (though i feel my throat contracting with that statement). I prefer natural psychedelics anyday.

Aye, couldnt have said it better. Thats where being rooted in humanity becomes really important. Enlightened teachers like Matt Kahn en Gangaji really emphasized it.

God wants nothing more than to be a self-realized/enlightened HUMAN BEING. The masculine approach is one of self-annihilation. Let's dissect everything so there will be nothing left of me. Let's commit spiritual suicide! The masculine approach is a disease without the feminine perspective. Before you can transcend the body, the body will ask of you to love it. Completely! Do you know how threatening this is for your ego? Ego thrives by seperating itself from the body. A lack of self-care is pure arrogance. Misplaced arrogance stemming from fear of love. It's like saying to yourself: i'm going to be as ugly as i can by neglecting my fitness, nutrition etc. So the external world doesn't need to reject me. Why should it? I CAN REJECT MYSELF! I will avoid the heartbreak and the fear of rejection by self sabotaging the whole process. This physical perfectionism of course also has the other side of the spectrum by being overly obsessed with the physical. Here you're actually prostituting your body for acknowledgment. You are first to integrate the body. The body IS YOU (before you can ever think of transcending it). You are NOT the owner of the body. This fake ownership makes you treat it like a bag of potatoes you carry with you. YOU ARE YOUR BODY. Communicate with the body as yourself. Not as something external to your ego identity. This fake distinction is actually whats blocking the flow of life force energy by concentrating it around the headspace through contractions. And yes the body is a phenomon of awareness of course. But be careful. Transcending the physical/material is certainly not about neglecting or rejecting.

I think Mongu9717s concern is pretty valid. I used LSD like 12 times in 6 months. It brought a lot of shit to the surface. And also it messed up my energetic system. BIG TIME. I think Leo needs a real good breather. And use his genius by extracting insights from the ordinary states of consciousness. I think thats even more challenging for him than his standard 5meo routine. I just hope you're ok Leo. Believe it or not.. but even kids have a certain wisdom parents have become blind to.

Ikr bro it's almost an offence ? Did that yesterday lmao. Best way to get in touch with the body ? especially all the parts we dislike about ourselves need that loving attention

It is a very nice, beautiful concept indeed.

You're right. I'm not using his experiences as new input for my so called new world model. Certainly not. But i have trust in him. That is all. What this hypothetical experience really is, is Unknown to me. I have trust in him, yet i also care about his safety. And certainly, Oneness would be doing it. But it does not mean a thing as you could always say the opposite. Me reacting on the issue would also be coming from Oneness. Let's not play these silly chess games. Edit: if you're coming from a place of love, excuse my tone.

I know. But do you really mind i used this assumption? If yes, why do you mind? What does that say about you? This makes a lot of sense intuitively. And i wouldn't be the first one to say it. I think its a very very necessary thing to say also. Especially for people who are unconsciously using the path to neglect their basic needs as a person. For advanced seekers this assumption would do NO harm. It makes quiet sense if you think about it. Unless you think duality has got nothing to do with love.

Why not both? Isn't that what love is? I do believe Leo. And saying stuff like he became conscious of creating the Universe. I believe him. And it frightens the fuck out of me. I just hope he does not neglect his humanity. His simplicity.

Hence the part about ownership. Ownership is in a way prostituting the sacred temple. Like exploiting 'my' shadow in order to gain certain results. This is a huge healing trap. When the body is in pain (whether emotional or physical) the fake ownership results in distancing oneself of the sensation. Its quiet a process of deconditioning this fake relationship. It needs a loving attitude. Loving perception (not-knowing) of the inner child for example. YOU ARE those feelings. Those feelings cannot suffer. Of course through awareness the process unfolds.

It's easy to become a monk escapist. Love is more threatening than solitude. God can be found in love. Be willing to let your heart be broken through vulnerability. That's what this all is about. Vulnerability.

Godspeed on your path my man. Saw the comment above and it probably has to do with your heart. Most of our conditioning are defense walls against love in one way or the other.

Its probably not it. You'd need to be more advanced on the path to know what they're really talking about. Its probably one of the many many contractions that your body needs to release.

For some reason most members here are very focused on the mind and much less on the body. Please read this and tell me what you think about this, how your process with regard to this unfolds etc. I've been through quite a lot the last 4 or 5 years. Been living a lot in my crown chakra the past year. Been open to lots of energies. Hitting rock bottom was becoming my favourite hobby. It almost became addicting to hit up high frequencies and then plunge into darkness through various ego death cycles. But your life will absolutely suck if you won't anchor that shit into your body. If you refuse to be a person in a real world, life will suck. Don't tell me this is an illusion. Because you're actually filtering a Higher Truth through language. Which makes it incredibly nihilistic and won't do you any good. Dying out of your body = awakening of the mind = psychological death Dying into the body = awakening of the body You must die into the body before you can transcend it by death of the body. During this phase you will realize that love is what you're really afraid of. That there is no difference between fear and love. Ultimate fear pops up when ultimate love shows itself for the ultimate surrender. For this we need to merge both the earth energies (from the root) and sky energies (crown) into the heart. Bridging those mofos. What do you guys do to ground yourself? What rituals do you guys use for the root chakra (also sacral and solar plexus). Peace

Thats GRACE my brother. It gives me goosebumps all over my body. I'm so happy for you man.

Lmao enjoy bro Doing shrooms ocassionaly my dude

Yes, that's awareness/consciousness/energy masquerading as form.

That's the visionary in you my bro YES! Exactly this my dude. It's all about energetics, that's what i'm also referring to. But its to make the distinction between the awakening stages.

Lmao good luck denying life

Mijn dank is groot! Oh and btw guys: I've intuitively come across ecstatic dancing and singing. These can be incredibly grounding and freeing at the same time (also with self-expression).

Thank you man

So many assumptions my man. To me it looks like you're in a complete denial of this "physical" reality. Or in a very infantile stage of your journey. I know it's consciousness, but groundedness heavily influences the quality of your subjective experience. Why don't you cut of your leg if it doesnt mean anything to you? Even some of the most enlightened beings (like Gangaji and Matt Kahn) are saying this. Ignoring the quality of your humanness and subjective experience can be a much darker way of being attached to that same illusion you're talking about. In the end it will be maya. But you misunderstood illusion if you think they mean it is "not real". Thats a major disrespect to the realness of existence. This work is not about denying anything. "Seeing through" is a loving act. Detachment is a loving act. Freedom means the willingness to become a slave. Not-knowing is not an attitude that stems from denial. Denial is judgement = concept. Maybe i misunderstood you, but even the grandest sages warn us to not forget humanity (no one talks about being attached). What is consciousness/spirituality but a concept relative to your humanity?

Aye bruv, we're on the same page. I just hope that the threshold for practices like non duality will be lowered substantially for people who still have a closed mind. For example by stop making it an own niche, filtering out cultural stuff etc. Love the Rupert part. Cheers.

I think the distinction as presented here is very arbitrary. Truth and Love are actually perfectly fit to be integrated in all those areas of ones life. Awakening for example lead to such an increase in body awareness for me that it automatically shifted me to a healthy diet. It's important to make distinction between the self-actualization and enlightenment path. But in the end its all about integration. There was never any difference in the end. I agree that for some it might be better to solely focus on PD, because thats as far as they'll get. But a large percentage would also benefit from the enlightenment path without even "coming near enlightenment". Don't underestimate the benefits of brutal self-honesty and self-understanding/acceptance which we can get from contemplation and self-enquiry.