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There's so many different kinds of sex one might be drawn to. No need to feel guilty about what you're drawn to, embrace it! LoL. To me it's like exploring an art form and there's no right answer to it (well assuming full consent whatever you're trying).

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@Nahm ???

@Someone here Maybe you just like masculine-esque girls (and some men). I like/admire them too (not necessarily want to date them), and I dig men who embrace some feminine traits also.

@Tech36363 Is it possible that this is because women's survival was more reliant on being with a man before (not saying it no longer is, it still is to a large extent) and this is shifting so women can now have preferences too instead of just taking the first man that comes her way?

@RendHeaven Just find a masculine-esque girl or something, those exist. Maybe you just have better tastes .

This is exactly coming from your own bad projection of what I said too! The point I was really trying to make is that, people should probably just do what feels right to them on a case-to-case basis and not based on how they come off/what others will think because there will always be someone who complains about it. But people play these games at least in part due to shame/the collective conditioning that are abound.

Well Leo, there you have it in this thread - a woman gets slut shamed by men (this happens alot too) and women if they appear 'easy', and some people justifying treating her like shit afterwards; or blamed for playing unnecessary games if she does not appear easy. ??????

INFJ-A @DocWatts thanks for that share ?

Makes sense, I'm guessing most people interpret the word 'romance' as some kind of lovey-dovey/gentleman-like thing that would exclude behaviors outside of that? There doesn't seem to be a good word for something like pick-up/sexual exploration but I guess I just proposed two. It's the same problem when people talk about "love" and some people include sex (esp the weird stuff) in that and some don't.

@Roy ??? You're welcome.

Or the sex was really bad. It goes both ways I guess.

Oh my bad, I can see how that can be misinterpreted - I'm lumping romance with sex. I guess it's all the same to me rofl.

@Preety_India Whew okay glad to hear, I was like.. am I losing my mind .

@Preety_India I thought he was saying in the context of meeting a total stranger. Like one wouldn't normally expect sex from a stranger on day 1 so if it happened that's a pretty good result? Or are you all saying this is the expectation nowadays and I'm out of touch with the dating scene rofl?!?

Well this is all relative to me. 10 hours can be seen as long or super short depending on the context lol. To me it actually seems short. And I'm not just talking from the perspective of being 'chased', I'm also talking about the perspective of 'chaser'. I've learned, but when I was younger I've chased guys for years at a time that led to nothing. Not smart but I did that because it was important at the time. And I am certainly not promoting this...

@Preety_India Sort of, just saying how much one prioritizes and values romance/sex is a factor, someone who cares a lot about it vs someone just sort of cares/wants it if it happened, degrees of caring/prioritizing. So it may seem 'too desperate' to people who are not prioritizing romance/sex as someone who is.

This thread... Some people just care more about romance than others, there's no shame in this.

@Tristan12 Don't know, was just my experience, is it possible that intersectionality played a role (racial and gender bias)? I've heard from a couple of white males who had a similar upbringing as me who seemed to have received better therapy even financial help for the therapy that are not generally offered to the public. So this is something I cannot find out..

I have sympathy for them and the need to be heard and I believe they have been heard. It was prob not a pure coincidence that provinces suddenly seemed to accelerate the process of lifting restrictions since the protests began. Trudeau may have a touch of the pride to acknowledge and not demonize the other side which I think would've calmed things down more quickly. But yeah at the same time the restrictions were largely made around the capacity of the publicly funded healthcare system. Hopefully this is all going to end soon.

Sorry that it's all in Japanese

I just thought that was a super cute comment.

@John Paul Yeah.. somehow I was able to recognize it and moved on from them.. I think most therapists have not internally broken away from their parents so they cannot help someone else to do this either. There's still some value and most are empathetic to an extent or another.

Yeah don't like the label either doesn't help anyone. More compassion is needed not less. I also wonder how many of them were given bad information on their appearance by their family of origin. That shit can feed itself forever if the internalized messaging doesn't get broken.