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@Thought Art Thank you..

@Thought Art I have looked before (your link is not working for me), still doesn't diminish what I experienced.

@Thought Art You're still gaslighting me about ego death. It was not my ego dying (that part I have literally zero issues with). It was my body shutting down, my awareness shutting down, and my experience of that is valid, and then fighting for my life was valid. You can interpret it however you want but don't go around spreading it as some higher truth than my experience.

Well your experience does not trump mine, and by starting with your own experience you're dismissing mine. and you did start with : This is a complete dismissal of what I described in the original post. I did stand my ground this whole time and that's what I am doing right now.

Maybe start with that next time when you don't know. That's not okay to just throw it around like it was what really happened, that's your projection onto me.

You're the one who keeps coming back when I said to leave me alone. Seems like you can't get over it.

You did not start with all that, you started with debating about "ego death", wtf? And now because you edited your posts you are claiming you did no such thing and we're just "demoninzing" you? That's some twisted shit. Ask yourself why you're creating this drama and no one else has on this thread, you think you had nothing to do with it?

@RMQualtrough yep.. just comes in here and gaslight the shit out of all the other trips I had and this one. And expects me to act nice about it? I am not fooled by someone's aggression disguised as "help". Classic manipulation game.

@Thought Art again, you've been trying to downplay and dilute my experience over and over. Not a good way to start a discussion. I was not just "struggling to breathe", I was hyperventilating (like suffocation) and my awareness was disappearing. Of course you're just gonna downplay this also. Nice try acting like a victim. I am done talking to you about it and one more time please leave me alone.

@Thought Art You're totally missing the point. I said it was not just an ego death. Why are you still talking here?

How many times do I have to say it? It was not an ego death trip. I have died plenty of times already but still functional with my body for the most part (let alone the ability to breathe and have awareness). You're just diluting my experience. Please stop and leave me alone.

@Thought Art I did surrender in the sense that I let it work its way through. But I wasn't gonna let it just take my life like that. Of course you decide for yourself in those moments. In this case it felt like if I didn't fight to keep my breathing I could really be gone, and that's not what I wanted.

@Thought Art no it's not simply ego death with this one, was a physiological thing. But whatever not gonna debate you here. I didn't go on that trip to end my life you weirdo. I am not suicidal by any means and that's not why I do psychedelics. If you don't got anything good to say best to not say it to someone who just had an NDE. I didn't post this for someone's empathy, simply to tell people this could happen if they're not careful with dosages. You are welcome to do your own thing than wasting your time derailing someone's thread.

@RMQualtrough wtf I'm sorry you had to go through that.. sounds really tough. Also I think I'm still tripping on this a bit, I can feel it lol..

@Jodistrict Thanks for sharing that. I was honestly in a very good state when entering into it (calm and neutral, open). Just took too much. Yes I think that lines up with my experience too, I have been having some chest pain since, it's going away now.

Something most people choose to overlook is the cult of some families.

@kamwalker Yes hard to say how our experience with that would compare but yeah, was struggling to stay "here" if that makes sense. Didn't even get much of an insight for all that .

@bambi 1 gram should be fine to try out. It can still be intense though for some people if you're sensitive and not sure what to expect. My first trip on 1 g was still somewhat intense I would say and worked through alot of the residual trauma stuff, but went well. How to take it: I prefer a tea form. (Look up mushroom tea preparation). Only have to wait about 20 min for the come-up.

Accepting where people are developmentally and not needing them to be anywhere else. Accepting major challenges and seeing them as a source of growth, not letting them put you into depression and nihilism. Failing to integrate spirituality into baseline consciousness/life in the finite form. Not pushing yourself hard enough to love every situation.

Nice, glad that it helped you. Yeah he's all about exploring alternatives, and self-empowerment/healing.

LoL you guys keep talking about Teal, I got way more out of someone like Daniel Mackler, coz he goes direct to the source - your childhood. Now his delivery is not fancy or polished like Teal's is, but I don't care about that, his truth telling was so direct and gave me so much healing that I couldn't find elsewhere. All the therapists I've seen have to one extent or another defended the family system (that gave some people their depression and mental disorders). Daniel sided with the child in me/us 100% and he put himself in a very vulnerable position by doing so, as this is still mostly a taboo topic in our society.

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Yeah had the same thoughts. And the "shit I really fked it up this time".

Yes I was thinking about this actually. I honestly don't know as I haven't had prior experience with it. It did feel like my state of consciousness just shot way up to the point my body can't handle it. But there was little "transition" period like I would experience with mushrooms. But what else would it be that could do this? It was about 20-40 min depending if you count the come up/down.

Thanks. No not really haha. I guess my body felt very heavy as it was coming up and felt like it had become quite dense like a lead brick or something.