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In the relative you can become more and more "God-like" but it's not the dimension meant for being totally God-like as then you would cease to exist as a finite being. On the other hand it's possible to be 99.999% "God-like" hypothetically if that's something one chooses to aim for. The remainder being very minimal survival needs. Just my 2-cents.

Most humans are only capable of doing the best they can to defend themselves and reduce harm overall which is their right to do. But most humans are not suited for or capable of the task of delivering "real justice": Real justice is “served” through being made fully aware of what has occurred and the consequences of one’s actions exposed, through the internal realizations and radical transformation in consciousness that may occur from within the doer and everyone around by the “grace of God”, through cutting through falsehood and moving toward Truth, through a rebirth in consciousness. "Real justice" leads everyone closer to God.

Can be rough, everything is recontextualized. It can feel isolating as anytime you try to connect with most people you have to act as though you are still in the dream and play along.

I'm glad you're okay... that sounds like a lot all at once. It's a bit paradoxical how waking up works.. on the one hand, you realize the unreality of things, which helps you out of/ease suffering. On the other hand, you realize the depth of "darkness" consciousness is capable of, in contrast with "light", and that it's relative depending on what you're contrasting with. The good news is consciousness is moving and leading itself toward the light.

You are complete and total!!

Well this was awhile ago now and before my awakening, and I never finished it coz I kinda got the gist and moved on to other things. I was reading it more holistically rather than the details. If you read it holistically it's signposts to the nature of reality.

It's good to have some distance to process things more objectively, and allowing yourself the space to grieve if needed.. and once you feel better about where you are mental/emotionally it's still fine to reconnect again, hopefully without or with minimal amount of the same dynamics. Thats something you'd have to gauge your comfort level and ability to set some boundaries with them. When you first do it boundary setting might not feel good or normal. Oh and watch for the guilt coming up. The guilt is not you, it was something they gave you. The space "apart" can also give them an opportunity to grow too as often parents have their kids as emotional crutches that prevent their own healing and growth. And yeah it can be hard to do all this "alone" without support. But you got to recognize that this may be a necessary step in your growth journey to be more healed and whole. And the love doesn't have to go away, you can learn to see the bigger picture, of how their way of being toward you was also something they've learned from their parents and so on. It gives you more empathy potentially in the process.

Maybe you are not "reading it right" . The little bit of GEB I read were very enlightening and mind expanding.

To varying degrees yeah, I guess just the simple fact you have basic survival to think about is forced on you. And all other factors like your health, genetics, upbringing, location, etc are not exactly in your control. So it's a counterintuitive thing where you need to meet a certain amount of basic needs to have room for increased virtuosity/aligning with truth. But often when things start to get "comfortable" people can continue ballooning their "needs" and not examining the ways in which they're going about it or how it's affecting others. So I would say the burden is in fact more on those who have basic needs met (how you define that is another story), and those who have more power to influence the environment. ? But people with more power (whether it's earned or birthed or both) are often very good at deflecting any such responsibility as they continue to enjoy the power differential. And hence the system change needed to redistribute power tends to get "locked" in place.

Well yeah I was illustrating a point that basically the group dynamic can force your hand when it comes to acting in accordance with the highest values and truths. If survival in the environment means going against the truth. But I think those don't really count within double standards/hypocrisy as it was forced on you.

Yes you're right it requires both individual awareness and the system change. A very "woke" person probably will starve to death in a stage red place, assuming that we still care about survival. But I guess the work is more focused on what individuals are doing, which will influence the collective.

@Judy2 well said. I think it's a basic courtesy/respect to ask for permission first.

LOL. it's prob easy to tell if you're not doing low/micro dosing..

Well... I don't think it's untrue that we are in a dream where few people know who they are, and hence acting from ego and seperation, which are the things @Holykael is trying to express - challenges in the relative. We should acknowledge these challenges while knowing it's dream world. And what's stopping us from dreaming what God/we want? In fact that's all that has been happening. Don't downplay your will and your ability to create, that's what you are given. Why else would anyone bother to share "truths" on this forum? Is that not your will being manifested because you want more truth not less? The dream could be quite different if people realized who they were and how we are "related" to each other. The challenge for us is to accept it for now and not abandon ourselves and live the best life in this iteration. But God waking up to itself is inevitable, it's already happening.

God creates itself, therefore you, the finite you, are also part of that creation. And now as if for the first time God is able to create and be a witness consciously through you. There's much joy that God is waking up in you, is able to see itself and grasp itself, through a finite form/its own creation. That itself is a miracle if you think about it. Whereas before, it was just this potential. Now it's manifest. And not only manifest, but it can also know itself through the manifestation. Perhaps this is the evolution it's undergoing. The joy of the ladder is not lost on God!

Maybe this won't help but the truth is "this person" is never truly gone, and you'll always be with them coz you are them ...

Yeah you're out of luck except maybe this forum. ???

LOL. Coz we don't all got that kind of connections.

It's hard to find people who have "stepped out" of the herd.. but you might get lucky still. I think the "nerd crowd" and "artists types" has more chance of those or more tolerance for it.

Why would it not be?

Find some farmers Well.... certain kinds coz it can go either way.

That's it. Just takes some period of adjustment. You'll find a way to accept it eventually, because the truth is ultimately liberating. Remember the void is also what is birthing all of what's here. It's our attachment to what's here (and ego's desire to control and maintain things as they are, ie resisting change) and sense of "loss" that makes it seem hard.

Most humans aren't capable of love, most are just looking to fill their needs and sense of belonging, with love in disguise (or some very limited version). If humans were capable of love this would be heaven. The system we are setting ourselves up in currently is also one such that love is not the focus and survival is.

The more interesting thing is why someone had to wait 2 years to bring up the topic about finances...