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@Lyubov I had. It can be caused unknowingly by external influences such as friends, social media and your Investment (too much pickup). Solution: Stop everything Related to dating at least for a month, be alone and read osho.

@Recursoinominado Completely true. But, Its more a social thing. They just want to fullfill that social expectation. Experienced ones dont really care much if they get pleased. Ive met girls who confidently say they like small and medium dicks. Saying big ones do not necesarily satisfy as it seems.

@Chumbimba Lmao This is exactly what ppl dont understand about pickup. They teach you the knowledge but dont explain all the hidden fundamentals of it. And all the misinterpretations it brings depending on the context. Without truth and contemplation is impossible to understand why it works and why it doesnt. Thats why I made a post called pickup is good crap. You violated the first rule. Which was self Honesty of your feelings. Your friend used the relativity of words to convince you of something not real in you. Words are tricky empty spells. Thats why promises tend to be broken so much. What ever you feel, she will feel... By not feeling completely aligned, I mean you were not mentally prepared neither in the mood. It was just a forced compulsion. You had a thought, but didnt feel completely into it. There was no full aligment. Emotions take a while to follow thoughts. The conviction did not came from you. Your friend made you without your complete consentment. Sadhguru explained this process. You were half-ass into it. Thats why I never do pickup with friends. You will get Fun, but it will have anxiety, pressure and little results. Unless ofc, he is an experienced wing. Only do pickup if you feel into it. If not it wont work. It doesnt matter how good you look, how rich you appear, strong, etc. If you have all those, she will give you a chance to see who you are and then find out you are just trying in a forceful needy way to get something out. When in fact, lets say you felt like socializing, just passed next to them and made funny comment out of something that its not her. Without even thinking of pickup or having expectations. After that comment a random conversation arises and lastly it just seems you both want to have each others number. But, in those few mins, she read aloooot of you, through your energy, personality and authenticity (Honesty). Thats how pickup should look in an unknowing way. Conscious calculative planned pickups just destroys more than producing. Say, you stop reading and investing in pickup for a few months. You just recenter into your aloneness, completely self sufficient, happy and relaxed. And casually talked to a girl by being in the right mood without expectations. That would build your karma and self-fullfiling prophecy in a positive manner much much faster and better way than by going crazy chasing girls everyday. Reading about them, faping on them, seeing pictures, etc. There would not be any bad karma on you about women and you wouldn't even need pickup at all. Cuz pickup can create bad karma aswell. You go out alot and fail alot without proper progress, it will destroy your subconscious feed back and make you fall inside a bad karma wheel of women, that you wont know how to get out.

If you are a 10 on looks but a 5 in general. Go to Asia. They will experience you as a 10. In general, dating tourists babes is far easier. None of you expect anything because you both live in total different cultures. Thats like a big excuse for being you and different. Also, they dont have social pressure. Now that they are out of their country they can get laid far faster with you since they now dont have social consequences. Go to a Resort in your country. If you are american, date a russian or german girl. They are fast, open minded and hot af. Combine that, with picking up a girl that was drinking at the disco of that Resort at 2 or 3am. Thats like free sex.

@GroovyGuru Its worth only if you are up to a few things. First and most important, where you live. Is hot girls something normal? Are they open to online dating? How open minded is your culture... If not forget about it even if you are a 10. It sucks in my country. Dating in general here sucks. I can only get high quality girls when meeting tourists on the beach or resorts. And the pandemic has made dating just unworthy in general, apart from now including the danger of virus. How patient are you? You need alot of patience in dating through text. I cant stand such waste of time. It gets on my nerves just to see if at the end the girl its even worthy of chat. How good looking are you? Looks is what creates matches. How high quality are your pictures aswell. How discplined are you? Making a bunch of matches will get you no where. You need to play girl by girl to see whats up. Staying persistent and organized in your game on her. Online dating is not so easy as it seems, but it can be if you have those together.

@Keyhole The point of pickup is to help you develop or recover your social/mating skills. Those guys called natural are naturally good with girls cuz they have unknowingly interacted over and over with girls. They become intuitive. But they have to do this consistently, because mating can be forgotten. For example, in my case I used to be very social and good with girls when I was a kid and teen. My first gf was around 5 years old and first kiss aswell. My first bj was at 7. I did not knew anything of pickup but i had socialized so much I was good and intuitive. I was even better back then than now because I was more unconscious. Around 17 I stopped socializing. I got into getting good grades, reading alot, video games and spirituality. I completely lost touch with interactions. I became anti-social, weird etc. Sucked with women. Pickup helped me become conscious of certain things on interactions. Actually, pickup is not what helped me become social again, it was simply the fact that if I dont interact I wont survive. Through alot of interactions I learned again. But i get you. Pickup is tricky. It also depends on who is applying it. Its very cringy at first when learning. Thats why I say some ppl are better off without it. Just as in spirituality, not everyone will understand what is been said neither get to experience God. Even thou they read and watch alot of videos. Best way is just to interact alot and expect nothing. Pickup can make some ppl creepy because they expect things to be as teached. But for some it works. It depends on how their mind works. Its relative. There are robotic guys that dont know pickup. Its simply the fact of having an agenda. Dont categorize them as puas or not. Just avoid those guys. Dating used to be better when there was no communication technology. Raw dating. True romance.

@modmyth Yes, i agree with that since im latin american and very extroverted. Actually, on one hand unconscious extroversion can be dangerous if not careful, because you can make mistakes by saying and doing compulsive things you did not want to. On the other hand, people find you attractive, and "normal" which is useful to influence others. If you want to influence/manipulate others, get a shiny personality. You can get awat with alot of things by having alot of personality. Thats when the illusion of ego becomes "useful" . No personality, you are a no body to society. Extroverted people will always get away with more. Nevertheless, having friends can be a useful strategy to get out of your Shell, but thats just an excuse to not deal with your inner turmoil. "Friends" is just external stimulus in that case. You can replace that with something else as well, if chosed to. Hopefully, the best way is just to deal with your self without needing anything. Personally, im at the point I just enjoy interacting with people. But i dont compromise neither have those type of tradicional friendships. At this point, they are more limiting and counter productive than anything. At first it was hard to let go of many people, but they were just karma of my past that dont correspond to my new awareness/knowledge/frequency. I feel freer not having friends as people call it. No expectations and compromise. No bullshit and drama. No more conditioning. No more going back. Being on your own space, frame, territory, center is the medicine you need and ppl avoid it going on to others. Ofc I have relationships I depend on certain things, but completely different. Also, im best when being alone. When your awareness and knowledge grows and you see ppl dont get you or see you to far ahead, but that you have to lower yourself onto their level to match, is when you start enjoying aloneness even more.

@AlwaysBeNice When I say pickup, I dont mean RSD. There are aloot of dimensions, areas and topics and underground puas, that cover pickup. Its a whole different language. Self programming is just one aspect. Even in pickup, many of the best puas have experienced enligthenment. Such is the case of mystery. So, the way I apply pickup is not in a calculative robotic manner. None of that. I just wanted to explore survival and reproduction through consciousness which is a completely different game. Instead of just teorizing, I used that knowledge to actually become conscious of that theory in actual experience. When having that general knowledge and awareness of how people work, you can do and understand many things. Not just get pussy. Everything is connected, so pickup is a useful platform to navigate and understand this relative plain, society and people. Pickup has helped me simply become very socially inteligent and intuitive with people. Thats all. The word pickup is as corrupted as the word "God". Do you think someone as sadhguru and peter ralston dont know pickup? They do, they just dont call it that way. They are conscious of the same mechanics I explore. They are useful before and after enligthenment.

@Keyhole Its all relative in this plain. Theres no absolute conclusion. Is all good. We are just having fun in this cinema. Some are in a comedy, others are in a terror movie. What does it matter one takes a million life times to clean your karma? At the end its ok, it will be released anyways. It has to. Time is illusion as well. A million years to you is a day to God.

@Zak Nice, I gotta watch that video then. Probably tomorrow or at work. Our minds will get really blown soon. Through Leo, sadhguru saying levitation is possible, alot of weird mystical shit I didnt knew was possible, the illuminati pandemic. Holy fuck. 2020 must be one the best series aliens have watched. @Leo Gura Leo, if you dont want to distract your audience on youtube by releasing pickup videos, feel free to express all you want in your blog.

@Hello from Russia Is not useless. Its productive and conterproductive at the same time. Knowledge can be as dangerous as ignorance if not handled correctly.

@Zak I would Pay to see an infield video of Leo.

@Hello from Russia Pickup is good to start. I mean, I dont like thinking or applying any conscious mecanics any more. I do better just being me. Pure inner game and personality. Thus, I have changed my preference towards what women I like. I can fuck a normal girl, but they are not my preference. So I dont do that style of pickup. I just go straight to the point (more like fuck-buddies). But for that, you need to find a girl who is also as open as you in her sexuality. Having a dick Orgasm is nothing compared to feeling your complete body in Orgasm. For that, the feminine energy in you has to be activated. If you are not careful with your beliefs, learning pickup will imply you are not good with women, which can make you feel even less confident without you even knowing. It can also imply putting them on a pedestal for investing so much learning about. The best way to define it is as to simply learn more by curiousity.

@Leo Gura Yet there is an entire industry teaching men something as common sense as that. We are truly in the dark ages, lol.

This book is so paradigm shifting that you will inmediately take it as bullshit or false. Even if you have awakened, you have no fucking idea how your unconscious mechanism works. The animal nature and sex force is so strong that people kill and commit suicide for not achieving their reproduction purpose. Here Jason (PUA/Marketer) explains all the honest signals that are silently subcommunicated through your body language from behind your concious awareness. Do you want to understand why some people simply seem intimidating, powerful and gain respect? Read this to become aware of such tricky thing. If you become a slave to applying this principles you will sell your soul, but if you become aware of it you will be free from the chaos/karma and fakeness of those who appear powerful.

As promised from the book section, here are some links to open you into how animalistic attraction really works. Don't just believe what is being said. You can verify it through experiments. And when you start to actually become conscious of how the unconscious works in you and others, it will blow your mind. Its tricky at first, but you will identifity it and catch it on. 1. The Lie of Monogamy https://satoripua.com/index.php/2020/04/24/the-lie-of-monogamy/ 2. The Mating Code https://www.thematingcode.com/articles

I would like to read anyone who has experienced an authentic paranormal activity of any kind. Also, I will share the only one I have experienced and would enjoy any information you can add if you know about this phenomena. So, it was sunday morning around 7:00 A.M. and I was lying on my bed in this state where you are awake but are still sleepy. Suddenly, I felt there was some energy in my room but could not see anything, so I closed my eyes again. Then, I started feeling hands touching my body coming from my stomach to my chest and I freaked the fuck out. After my freaking out, it stopped. What could have been this? Negative entities looking for psychic energy? A sexual demon? Or a positive being trying to contact me? Nothing has ever ocurred after this.

Stop watching videos and reading anything related to dating. These guys are masters at cult psychology and making you feel guilty. Take a break of all that stuff, dating apps, talking and thinking about girls. What you need is re-centering with yourself. Trust me, I was in your position when I used to be on dating. Its addictive. It makes you want to improve your ego everyday. Dating is exhausting. All that circus one has to do just to see if the girls gets to open her legs.

The point of the thread is to make you conscious of the mechanics behind why you do what you do every single day and don't know why. Survival rules your life. The fact that one has to think about life, is already survival. Life is to be lived, not thought. And thats what lies beyond your survival, trascendence. Sooner or later, you will have to become conscious of this. Either for improving it or transcending it.

Thats actually something dangerous to Leo's leadership. People are more influenced subconsciously to what you do and how you live than what you speak.

Absolutely. Pickup is a dangerous cult. I actually learned about your cult psychology videos when I was very focused learning with these guys and how deceptive they are. Do you know any book explaining enlightened relationships and how to improve your interactions with people who are asleep, after awakening?

How weird. My last gf was an aquarius and was not very sexual.

@James123 lol I remember when I thought I was enlightened with a similar experience. Give it 6 months, if you are still enlightened you wont even feel like coming back to tell us.

@Onemanwolfpac Its hard to describe because many people here really don't understand the deepness of survival and how the unconscious/animal mechanism works. Is hard to even believe these things at start. Survival and the unconscious mechanism works silently and it is always active. It is the cause of our World situation. Yes, we are conscious and have "choice" but not everyone and to what degree. Most people live like animals and thats why this is important. Look, I have trained with what I call "Devil PUAS". And these guys live by these nature rules. Its mind blowing, you actually need to see them for your mind to believe it. What they do is, they install all the scientific nature perspectives on attraction & and Survival by believing them, thus building a paradigm on it. Now, their paradigm is aligned to the rules that the flesh and mind demands. The same thing with the subcommunications shown in the "High Status" book. So, is this the best way to go? Depends on what you want. But, even if you want enligthenment you need to become aware of it because for example, if some alpha (and my country has alot of them) comes to mess with you in what ever way, you will fall under his level if one is not well established in one's presence/awareness, since he will also trigger your unconscious mechanism without him knowing what he is doing. It also helps you trascend it better and faster, because now you are conscious of the truth of the mechanics of survival/reproduction. Not just some theory. I played this game of being alpha through all these principales described and it works wonder. You can really get what you want easily. I can make girls desire me just by thinking aggressive thoughts and having strong eye contact. They can feel that vibration and that triggers their unconcious mechanism without them knowing what is happening. I made other guys respect me too and skipped much bullshit. You can manipulate social interactions, persuade, sell what ever you want, get laid the same day. Its crazy man. But, to do this successfully you need to delude yourself into this paradigm I created my self. So, I believed these guys, tested it and it came out to be the truth. Just as enligthenment, lol. Gosh, im such a lucky dude. And, the hardest thing to understand is everytime I say the "unconcious mechanism". Like wtf do I mean by that, right? You can only intuitively understand it. Since its "unconscious" it means you are not conscious. But that does not mean is not working on its own. Is a lower animal awareness. To become conscious of the unconscious is something else. This is the same as when one is trying to understand enligthenment. Is hard, because it lies beyond the mind. Even one of my spiritual teachers has taught me on this lower animal awareness. Rare, ppl on this forum dont speak about it. The majority who see this post won't understand and thats okay. I know what im telling you, Its not bullshit. You can test it by yourself.

@Leo Gura Exactly, they are Lies that are True in the dream. The population in my country is red-blue. And becoming aware of this mechanics has helped me on how to deal and interact with people. I can't just skip it all the way through. Or what do you mean? Thanks to this knowledge I know how to deal with my parents, lol.