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I had the realization that pickup ideology is similar to Hitlers ideology. the following shows that "ruthlessness" isn't just a political trait—it's a psychological system that can be rebuilt anywhere by anyone who understands how to weaponize "nature" against "humanity. With the help of Gemini here is the comparison: The reason why "Pickup Artists" (PUAs) would theoretically fit into the Nazi framework comes down to the structure of their thinking: 1. The "Predator" Mindset In both ideologies, the world is divided into predators and prey. The Nazi view: Nations and "races" must conquer or be conquered. The PUA view: Men must "target" and "game" women. Both reject the idea of a "win-win" scenario based on equality. They believe someone must always be "on top," and if you aren't the one dominating, you are the one being victimized. 2. The Suppression of Empathy A core part of PUA training is "outcome independence" and "detachment." You are taught to ignore the emotional signals of the other person to achieve your goal. This is exactly what Hitler meant by "overcoming the chimera of conscience." To be a "great" Nazi, you had to be able to look at suffering and feel nothing because you believed it was "natural." PUAs practice a smaller, social version of this by treating social interactions as cold, mechanical scripts. 3. The Rejection of Modernity and Equality Both groups share a deep hatred for liberalism and feminism. Hitler blamed feminism and the "softening" of men for Germany's decline. PUAs often blame "feminized society" for their lack of success and want to return to a "traditional" (often imagined) hierarchy where women have no choice but to submit to the "Alpha." 4. The "Secret Knowledge" (The Red Pill) Both ideologies rely on the idea that the "masses" are being lied to by a shadowy elite (for Hitler, it was the "Jewish press"; for PUAs, it’s "the Matrix" or "Mainstream Media"). They offer their followers a "Red Pill"—a secret truth that explains why their lives aren't perfect. This creates a bond of "us vs. them" and makes the followers feel superior to the "clueless" people around them. The Danger of the "Alpha" Myth The "Alpha/Beta" logic is the most direct link. When you start believing that humans have a "biological rank," it is a very short step from saying "I am a superior man" to saying "My group is a superior race." Scaling Women (Rating by Numbers) In the PUA (Pickup Artist) scene, women are often referred to as "HB" (Hot Babe) followed by a number from 1 to 10 (e.g., "I approached an HB9"). Dehumanization through Data: This serves a specific psychological purpose: it removes the woman's personality, history, and soul. She becomes a "target" with a value assigned to her. The Nazi Connection: The Nazis were obsessed with categorizing people into "grades" of value. They used health scores, "racial purity" certificates, and eventually, in the concentration camps, replaced human names with numbers tattooed on skin. Both systems use numbers to silence the conscience—it is easier to manipulate or hurt a "9" or a "number" than a person with a name. The Alpha/Beta Hierarchy (The "Führer" Principle) The PUA obsession with being an "Alpha" is almost a mirror image of the Nazi "Führerprinzip" (Leader Principle). The Alpha/Führer: In both ideologies, the "Alpha" is a man who stands above the law of the "weak." He is entitled to take what he wants because of his perceived biological superiority. The Betas/The Masses: PUAs view "Beta males" with contempt, seeing them as "providers" who are "genetically programmed" to be losers. Similarly, Hitler viewed the masses as a weak "feminine" element that needed to be dominated by a strong, masculine leader.

@Breathe i can't recommend doing shrooms in come down phase because that's mostly uncomfortable. And shrooms can exaggerate that.

@Ishanga I hope you get some first non ordinary states of consciousness and get your first psychedelic experiences. It really opens you up. I was like you before that.

I like it better nowadays in this forum, less drama. But I miss Leo s couch blogs. it doesn't feel like he is on a journey anymore but that part was so inspiring. Leo went into a suffering phase and decided not to share his journey anymore. I know he surely has a lot of growth on the background going on . A lot. It's just his raw couch blogs were truly unique and very insightful and inspiring. If he would doing a blog where he shares also bad phases this would make a whole picture.Spirituality and sufferingy, god and being human comes together.

@Leo Gura these companies have special tactics that you are getting out of the company by your own choice. They will isolate you, force you to do useless tasks the whole day until you quit by yourself. I love Japan and was there living. But these overworking issues are real and they are brutal.

I was often in Japan. They envy our working lifestyle.

@Tenebroso I think there is a lot of projection from you to me going on. What you think about me is wrong. I never see me as a good guy, I still use basic principles of pick up and I find pickup useful to a degree. Don't make this topic about me, I am far beyond such insecuritys you might have in you and project onto me.

@Breathe it all depends what topic you are processing. Afterglow can be very nice or brutal.

Please go to some guru who transmit Kundalini energy. I know a friend who got his kundalini activated n just one meeting with a guru. It's real.

What I say is, pickup artists use an ideology based on biological laws to manipulate and exploit others without remorse for their actions On the other hand you don't have the sacrifice aspect and other things of Hitlers ideology. Its not that extreme.

@Ramasta9 your post is radical

Why do you think so. the bridge between them isn't the actions, it is the intellectual architecture behind them.

@Ramasta9 how much psychedelic experience do you have? I ask me that because it sounds like you speak like an outsider watching psychedelic users .

Oh yes...I was also on the pickup train and when I got into a serious relationship I couldn't feel love because of all the exploiting tactics of pickup running constantly in my mind. It made me also to a heartless partner. You should really really be careful. The pickup community is selfish. No one is considering the feelings of the woman who gets manipulated.

Always remind yourself he is a marketing man in the self help field. He tries to convert the psychedelic users into his customers. Maybe his friends also come all from an esoteric scene. But he still could have some points.

He posted his results recently on X, he got great results: My magic mushroom longevity experiment found a metabolic reset button in the brain. We expected brain changes, but not a potential metabolic breakthrough. The discovery: my blood glucose control dramatically improved. + before: top 2% of population + after: top 0.2% of population + better than 99.75% of 18-25 yr olds + mean glucose dropped 8% +time above 125 mg/dL: zero min + variability dropped 11% This single session reduced my estimated HbA1c by 6.8% from 4.7% to 4.4%. Why does this matter? We treat diabetes and metabolic dysfunction with chronic daily medication (Metformin, Insulin, GLP-1s). This data suggests that a neuroplastic event might have downstream effects on the liver and pancreas that mimic or exceed these drugs. For context, taking Metformin daily takes 6 months to drop it 10-15%. This is a first in-human observation, with comparable pre-clinical evidence existing onlv in rodents

@Leo Gura sounds like a very intense time. I hope you can share what you went through this time in a blog video one day. Whatever happened you improved a lot in your video makings and plog posts.

Oh man that sounds great. I ask me if others experience similar stuff like you. Unfortunately this drug seems very, never heard of it before. I hope other people here can report how it works on them. Of course if this drug is some kind of ketamin you need to be cautious about addiction and harm to your body. It is then more toxic than pure psychedelics with frequent usage.

If there is a concert and everyone is clapping to the music. If I join them mindless with clapping in my hands this too is Conformity.

@Pure Imagination what you describe sounds 5 Meo showed you how it should be normally. I think for a normal person this would not be so terrifying. But I can understand that this kind of interaction was unusual to you.

@Pure Imagination wow what a report. Thanks for your writing I really can feel what happeed to you. I took a high dose of LSD 7 years ago and it changed my perception forever in terms that I see that there is nothing outside. So if I see a house I see that it's like in a video game, nothing behind.

Holding a speech in public without looking weird is already pure conformity? But Leo said it's not baked into the activity. I need to orient myself to the public but I can do that in a conscious way. If I see through the conformity I am not trapped in Conformity.

@Davino wow nice!! You are definitely advanced tripper. Can you contact him again? I heard on DMT that's possible. I ask me how he looked like.

What do you mean by that. And how often are you using Pulsetto nowadays? Do you combine it with another routine?

University system with credit points biggest conformity I have fallen into. I have two complete degrees, a master in economics and diploma in computer science. I can just laught at me how serious I took these systems for granted. Only at the end I realized more and more what's going on. What a waste of life but I would just play computer games instead. The second biggest conformity I have fallen into. You need to be a conformist to do them. Especially video games.