OBEler

Sounds wise but is bullshit. Of course there are better paths than others. Your thoughts are naive

I need to correct you here. I was participating in an advanced yoga course from Isha organization (sadghuru). There was never any mystical bullshit spoken, there were no hidden secrets. It was 100% direct in the most shocking way. Sadghuru shocked them with radical truths one after another with style. And what many realized in this course is not only that the person in front of them are you yourself but also that sadghuru is you yourself. Many had solid awakenings and existential breakthroughs in the nature of reality. My whole view on yoga changed after this course because I also had preassumptions like you.

@BlessedLion the question is do they get there to have that as a baseline experience. If I chant for 6 hours to get there, maybe they experience it also just for some seconds

Would be still interesting to know if they experience similar states with Yoga exercises. Just to see at which level they are

@Pudgey @Pudgey yes they are full of shit. Absolutely full of it. But I respect them like I respect people living in the jungle who live their life in isolation from the civilization. They have their own dignity and delusions and when they talk bullshit, it's in a lovely naive way.

I am 100% sure 5 meo will awaken me if I will take the right amount of dose. I could bet a thousand dollars on that. And yes 5 meo is a million times more powerful than lsd. I know that because my friend who took 50 lsd trips before was so blown away with first 5 meo breakthrough dose that he though to quit psychedelics completely forever because he is awake now. Taking low doses is a very different experience than taking a breakthrough dose and I don't expect 5 meo to awaken me with low doses. I just play with it a bit

Don't blame 5 meo. I can have a breakthrough whenever I want it. Just took 5 meo dmt in low doses. I feel not ready for a breakthroughvthats the reason I went not deep with it. 5 meo alone is very well responsible how far you are able to go if you take the right dose.

@Javfly33 thats why I am afraid to hear such music during 5 dmt. I had these moments just for some seconds with my surroundings. It's an interesting phenomenon and I cannot explain it

@Holymoly I dont know first time he said it's artificial, not God. Second time, Yeah he have been there. He is a bit hard to understand. It's quite incredible how cool he is during this whole experience. That makes it believe he really reached those states with his practice somehow. Also I felt some pressure on him. He represents a spiritual Tradition which he gave his whole life. I felt he needed to protect this Image so whatever je experiences on 5 meo, he cannot say it's deeper than that in Front of a camera.

Original nazis would put actual nazis into concentration camps because of associal behaviour. There is clearly a complete distinction between neo nazis and nazis in hitler time.

I dont believe you.

I wish Leo would be there, he would immediately have a deep existential discussion with this alien being and teach him some lessons. Also Leo would send him some homework if he ever made it back to his planet.

@Inliytened1 Ok got your point, but saying sadghuru is just entertainer is a big underestimation of him, he really created something valuable with his yoga teachings. How did your desire for sex vanished? And how can all your material desires vanish (even the desire to awaken other parts of yourself) if you realize you are all alone?

So you say he is not enlightened because he wants to awaken other people? That is how you can recognize his state of consciousness ? All well known enlightened masters teached others about awakening and helped them

@Inliytened1 @emil1234 You clearly haven't participated in his yoga courses; you've just watched some entertaining YouTube shorts about him. How can you even presume to know who he really is and what he's capable of? That's naive.

@CARDOZZO I wanted to express: that's typical low level materialist thinking about this topic. These encounters are going way deeper than some neurons firing in your brain. Take psychedelics for yourself and see.

@CARDOZZO short summary of this article: Brain is very powerful. It could be all generated by the brain. Who knows. Lol.

@emil1234 @Anon212perfect answer.most people here dont understand that sadghuru has a lot to talk with blue/purple minded people. You need to meet these people at their level. Sadghuru understands this better than anyone else. I was recently in one of his advanced courses and there you hear way deeper and more shocking stuff from him. People were crying and freaking out when they could experience these insights through his methods. People here in this forum underestimate him. That are mostly those, who just watched youtu.be videos from him and cannot make sense what he is talking about.

@emil1234 @Javfly33 what did you all do to archieved this? Eating vegan and Do shambhavi mahamudra two times a day?

@emil1234 It's a radical new state of consciousness no one reached here. Leo will teach it one day in his upcoming cours

@Simbruh can your sadghuru transform you into an alien? Sadghuru focuses on different things than Leo and thats good.

@Something Funny we have one but not a good one People here dont research correctly and post the first ufo video on youtube they see. On youtube there is a lot of trash

@FourCrossedWands playing a video game while running on a threadmill and hearing a Podcast is productive

@GraceUnity730 I think playing games like zelda breath of the wild and hearing Podcasts is the way to go.

Pure heroin doesnt kill you if you always take the right dose. It's the dirty street Heroin and cookiness of junkies which gives them an overdose. You never know how pure the street Heroin is. However the pleasure of heroin dec lines over time so that you take heroin just to prevent withdrawal effects. My advice: Never ever take Heroin. I dont know about alien consciousness, if it declines over time