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@Leo Gura have you tried out vaping 5 Meo malt? In HCl? I read on Reddit someone did vaping malt hcl in an cartridge with e liquid and said it works.

this happened to one of my family member too. a very close friend of him died and on the exact time he died, my family member cried extreme for no reason. he never cried. it just happened and he knew his closed friend was dead. But he dismissed it. Some days later he read it in the newspaper, it was suddenly (heroin overdose). How will you explain that? He met his friend some days before he died, he just had an cold but nothing serious.

Leos recent thread about owen cook was on time again. I thought last days a lot about this guy how inane insights he has (I really like his famous concept of "power tripping", I witnessed that on myself and others how it unfolds).So please share here some of his best videos. I just watched randomly some cook videos here and there. Lets reanimate this thread. Here is a powerful one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wt4woxFbPs&list=WL&index=177&t=380s

@r0ckyreed "Why wouldn’t the Universe use AI just like a human body? Anything can be an avatar?" the universe is too intelligent so that it will never use AI like a human body. It will not break the law of our physical reality for this. Its like you want that the universe to make puppets alive like pinnocio. This will never happen.

I can recommend doing 5 meo malt first. This substance is a lot softer. If you want a breakthrough then I recommend doing a combination of 5 meo dmt and 5 meo malt. Plug malt first and then after the peak is over vape 5 meo dmt. You still can get a panic attack on this but malt is like mdma almost, it is lovely in the background and supports you.

Universal intelligence uses our body as avatar to navigate in this would. Universal intelligence cannot use an ai robot the same way. There is no real intelligence behind these eyes.

I did keta only once and got headaches in the comedown. It was manageable but noticable. Plugged 60 mg.

@Leo Gura But you can still conclude that popular methods must at least have something valuable otherwise these methods would be replaced by more effective methods. Ask yourself why Isha uses these screaming techniques in their advanced yoga courses. They have tons of methods in their package , still they implemented this. It is even a difficult technique to implement because you need a place where no one outside of this course gets disturbed. I think even Owen cook used this technique in his old courses.

Look and watch on minute 53:00 and see for yourself:

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura There is screaming therapy out there. Osho did this also with his followers. Sadghuru in his advanced yoga courses does this too. You cannot dismiss this as something unnecessary otherwise it would be not so popular. I remember Martin ball also talks about it.I t could be a key to release stuck energy patterns in your body. And in combination with 5 meo this could have great potential. However I am open minded that this doesn't do anything at all in the long-term.

Can you tell, if high doses (not massive doses) are still valuable to explore?

That's not unnecessary. From a marketing perspective this is great, because it generates customers. When he said that he was still in service. Also back then he was one of the only few 5 meo facilitators out there. So people who think about a facilitator will find him. .

There are people who have traumatic energy in them which is just waiting for the right time to be released to get it out of your system. 5 Meo is ideal for that (according to Martin Ball) You can release energy in a controlled manner (screaming, vomiting, punching) and that can benefit you probably. But who knows?

He is probably doing a bit marketing for himself. But for beginners it can be helpful.

I ask me how often is this energy release through screaming needed? Does this need only happen to beginners on their first trips? I am thinking about long-term using 5 Meo. If the need for screaming also happens to advanced users then it can be very costly to rent a hotel room or something. Please share your experience on this

But what were the reviews of the vendor? Don't you check them? If they are new on the market and low reviews it's a risk

If you become alien mind like Leo describes, maybe you can access alien technology too. Maybe there is a universal Internet which you can access with a specific state of mind. There you can communicate with alien species around the whole universe. Maybe there is already an alien meta verse out there

Ok that's better than from the streets. I think you could have prevent this in first place, did you read the reviews of this vendor? Were there negative ones? You cannot be the only one who got poisoned. Or were there some signs that this vendor is not trustworthy?

Absolutely. For all people here in disbelief look at the discussion about my recent Hitler thread about if he was conservative or not: There AI was of great help. It gave the best answer from all of us discussing this. AIs power is still from most people underestimated. I ask me if people don't like things which are more intelligent than them. Must hurt their ego. They don't want to see.

@fanta oh man I am really sorry for you. Did you get your fake LSD from a street dealer?

So according to your definition, a spider spinning a web is also doing art?Ok then when a dog shits on the ground it must also doing art, look at the perfect form of shit it creates. You really misunderstood survival strategies for art. Birds build nests not because it looks beautiful but for survival. It's not art, it's practically just a tool to survive.

You answered yourself there is no art seen here. It's of course hard training and animal abuse. Visual capacy and control of it's trunk has nothing to do with art. It just remembered how to move it. Am I an artist if I draw lines on a numbers picture? This elephant is forced to draw this shit for tourists just to get a reward. Don't forget that.

@fictional_character I answer for Leo because this question came too often. He doesn't like to make a promise which he cannot hold so be patient. It will come out. It's done when it's done.

Self damage must be seen in context. If I learn for an exam I do a lot of self damage to get good grades.

Some people choose abuse on purpose. As long as they don't damage anyone else it's in their responsibility. If you do psychedelics for a long time for sure you will get into abuse zone for many reasons . I myself abused it for hedonistic pleasure many times and I am good with that. Like some people like to try sweet fruits. It's in a human nature to explore. I think nothing wrong with that as long as it's an controllable abuse and you know the risks. But as a beginner you should never abuse.