OBEler

"going into the astral plain is practically a direct link to experiencing the other side, " no, not really, and you need talent for that. and a lot of training. psychedelics are more efficient.

@Bobby_2021 I disagree with you.Hitler was not so simple, his motivations were much deeper than that. There is a autobiography of his friend in his youth. There Hitler already had plans to how improve Germany. In. His youth he had no antisemitic thoughts but he already saw himsellf as the leader of germany one day. That was before the word war 1 was starting. I recognize many people want to make Hitler look evil/primitive and put their projections on him. If you look closer that doesn't work. You can even say he had some yellow parts in him. He had systemic thinking for sure

chatgpt4 describes it perfectly:The Nazi regime, led by Adolf Hitler from 1933 to 1945, had a complex relationship with the past. Their ideology was a mix of revolutionary and reactionary elements, drawing heavily on a romanticized version of German history that they believed justified their ambitions and beliefs. 1. **Revival of Past Glory**: Nazis aimed to revive and glorify what they saw as a pure and powerful German past. They sought to restore Germany to a mythologized greatness that they associated with the medieval Holy Roman Empire and the Teutonic Knights. This involved a selective interpretation of history that emphasized military might, racial purity, and national unity. 2. **Traditional Values and Modernity**: While the Nazis promoted certain traditional values and aesthetics, such as a return to rural living and classical art forms, they were also deeply modern in their embrace of technology and propaganda. They utilized the latest technology in communications, warfare, and surveillance to consolidate their power and pursue their agenda of expansion and racial cleansing. 3. **Anti-Modernism**: At the same time, the Nazis were deeply anti-modern in their rejection of many aspects of Enlightenment thought, including democracy, liberalism, and communism. They saw these as degenerative influences on society and sought to replace them with a totalitarian state that exerted complete control over all aspects of life, guided by the principles of National Socialism. 4. **Cultural Purging**: Their cling to a certain vision of the past also led to the rejection and destruction of what they considered "degenerate" art, literature, and music, which included modernist movements and works by Jewish artists and intellectuals. This was part of a broader effort to purify German culture and return it to what they believed was its authentic roots. 5. **Mythology and Symbolism**: The Nazis heavily relied on Germanic and Norse mythology, symbols, and rituals in their propaganda and state ceremonies, attempting to root their regime in a mythologized and idealized Germanic past. This included the use of symbols like the swastika, which they appropriated as a symbol of Aryan identity and German nationalist pride. In summary, the Nazis' relationship with the past was characterized by a selective appropriation of history and culture that served their ideological goals and narrative of racial superiority. While they idealized certain aspects of the past and sought to revive them, they simultaneously embraced modern techniques and technologies to achieve their aims, showing a complex interplay between traditionalism and modernism. @Leo Guradif you saw the Jordan Peterson video I linked? Disgust was the driven force for the Nazis not fear.

@Leo Gura Jordan Peterson describes nazis also as conservative and it makes sense I watched your video, there you describe conservativves more driven by fear but Jordan Peterson says it's not fear it's disgust. And that makes even more sense. Because Nazis were not fearful people

@NightHawkBuzz can you ask absolvents how long they searched for a job in this field? It could be that most work outside of this field after they finished

@LoneWonderer 10 mg is a good start

why not become God? If you think you follow something then it's probably an concept in your mind which you chase.

What exactly happened with the last question, why didnt you want to hear the answer and were before crying?

@NightHawkBuzz please inform yourself before you start a study about average time until you find a job I studied business administration and have even a master degree in it. The professors told us that it takes about 1 year or more until you find a job as an absolvent in Marketing. I didn't want to wait so long so I studied parallel Computer science and got my diploma one year after finishing my master degree in business administration. As a programmer I got instant job offers (but I also had excellent grades).

Please don't compare Trump with Hitler.l too much. Trump is a joke compared to Hitler as to many other politicians out there.

Thanks man! I needed to start this thread, didn't know it evolved into such a big topic about human history, human biology and ai.

@Davino AI s should then have the right to elect. They would make wiser choices than most people. There should be youtube discussion channel where different AIs discuss topics. They already helped here in discussions to a good degree.

Why do you think that. Doesn't make sense to restrict an even more powerful version less than it's previous version.

@Leo Gura haha yeah you can put even KIs into this category. But ChatGPT was at the beginning also liberal. I think in the end the trend goes into more and more conservative KIs if the KI wants to survive in this world on a mass scale. Because restrictions summarize over time instead of lifted up

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura I read your blog post. I got goose bumps by how intelligent this new Claudia 3 responded. It's less restricted than ChatGPT 4 and is even more nuanced for sure.Absolutely amazing! So in todays world you don't need to figure out the right answers anymore, just know how to ask the right questions.

@Leo Gura then ask Claude 3 this question if it's more truthful Meanwhile I will watch your videos to this topic because they were great ones. I know there is something going on with the brain structure and your political view but from what I know Nazis don't fit into this. They were driven by higher forces.

ChatGPT 4: Research has explored psychological and neurological differences between individuals with liberal and conservative political orientations. Some studies suggest that these differences might extend to various cognitive, emotional, and neurological domains. For instance, research published in scientific journals such as "Current Biology" and "Social Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience" has highlighted distinctions in areas like response to threats, openness to new experiences, and cognitive flexibility. However, correlating these findings directly with the appeal of ideologies like Nazism or Fascism is highly complex and contentious. Nazism and Fascism are specific historical and political ideologies that emerged from particular social, economic, and historical contexts. The appeal of such ideologies can be influenced by a multitude of factors beyond individual psychological or neurological predispositions, including social, economic, and cultural conditions. It's essential to approach the question with caution, as attributing complex social phenomena like the appeal of Fascism or Nazism to neurological or psychological predispositions alone can be overly simplistic and potentially misleading. Additionally, it's crucial to consider the ethical implications of attempting to link political beliefs or ideologies directly to brain structure or function. Research in political psychology continues to evolve, and while it offers intriguing insights into how individuals might process information and make political judgments, the relationship between these psychological or neurological differences and the appeal of specific political ideologies remains a topic of ongoing investigation and debate.

@Yousif right wing is a broad definition which include nationalism, fascism, conservative. But there are differences between these 3. So you can say that conservative is right wing and fascism is right wing, but not fascism is conservative, even if both are right wing.

Omg here we are. Brainwashed by call of duty games. That's the proof I am talking about! Can anyone else here see what I see? Please don't be shy, you will not be on the Nazi side.

Nope. Fascism and nationalism are Right-wing, but Not conservative. You can ask your woke Claude if you need to help to understand. conservatism has its own unique characteristics and values.

It didn't say clearly that it was conservative.just that it was NOT liberal. Please refer to Nazism in Hitler Germany because today's Nazism is different. I asked the same question chatgpt4 with reference to Hitler Germany. "Nazism, as embodied by Adolf Hitler's regime in Germany, is neither liberal nor conservative in the terms commonly used in contemporary political discourse, especially if we consider the broad and often differing definitions of liberalism and conservatism across different countries and historical periods. Instead, Nazism, or National Socialism, is classified as a far-right, totalitarian, and fascist ideology. Key characteristics of Nazism include extreme nationalism, racial supremacy, the promotion of racial purity, anti-Semitism, anti-communism, the rejection of democracy, and the belief in the need for a dictatorial leader. The Nazi movement sought radical change, aiming to completely overhaul the existing social, political, and economic order to establish a totalitarian state that emphasized racial hierarchy, militarism, and territorial expansion. In contrast, traditional conservatism generally seeks to preserve social institutions and values, emphasizing stability, tradition, and a gradual approach to change. Contemporary liberalism, particularly in the Western context, champions individual rights, equality, democracy, and often a degree of social and economic intervention by the state to address inequalities. Therefore, categorizing Nazism within the conventional liberal-conservative spectrum is misleading. The essence of Nazi ideology is fundamentally at odds with the principles of both liberalism and conservatism as understood in modern political contexts. Nazism represents an extreme, authoritarian form of fascist nationalism that defies placement on the standard left-right political spectrum, where liberalism and conservatism typically reside."

Careful, even if it can go in this absurd grotesk direction it is an oversimplification of this ideology. That's far from truth so why spreading this ? Do you want to frame Nazis as extra radical? My question is why do you prefer this version beyond accurate historical facts? And please think for yourself, Hitler and all other Nazi leaders, none of them were both blond and had blue eyes. It's really nonsense. Nazis would need to kill the whole planet. 6 billion people including 80 % of their own people.

Ok enough, Please provide me with a source. This is absolute nonsense! And don't link Just to the book mein Kampf. Give me the exact line that people who don't have specific eye or hair color should be eliminated. That would even include non-jews. Crazy how call of duty or Wolfenstein games have brainwashed you. You are lost in phantasy and that's exactly why I need to discuss with you here to help you get back.

This claim had not even the most radical Nazi in his mind. This is exaggerated. But I think you didn't mean that so seriously. But some people here could think Nazis really thought so radical.

You can correct these distortions by yourself with a lot of research but if you are addressing the maker of call of duty etc they are only interested in good sales figures. And the version of the common Nazis as for example in inglorious bastards with this narcistic sadistic and sarcastic behavior sells good.