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Please don't compare Trump with Hitler.l too much. Trump is a joke compared to Hitler as to many other politicians out there.

Thanks man! I needed to start this thread, didn't know it evolved into such a big topic about human history, human biology and ai.

@Davino AI s should then have the right to elect. They would make wiser choices than most people. There should be youtube discussion channel where different AIs discuss topics. They already helped here in discussions to a good degree.

Why do you think that. Doesn't make sense to restrict an even more powerful version less than it's previous version.

@Leo Gura haha yeah you can put even KIs into this category. But ChatGPT was at the beginning also liberal. I think in the end the trend goes into more and more conservative KIs if the KI wants to survive in this world on a mass scale. Because restrictions summarize over time instead of lifted up

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura I read your blog post. I got goose bumps by how intelligent this new Claudia 3 responded. It's less restricted than ChatGPT 4 and is even more nuanced for sure.Absolutely amazing! So in todays world you don't need to figure out the right answers anymore, just know how to ask the right questions.

@Leo Gura then ask Claude 3 this question if it's more truthful Meanwhile I will watch your videos to this topic because they were great ones. I know there is something going on with the brain structure and your political view but from what I know Nazis don't fit into this. They were driven by higher forces.

ChatGPT 4: Research has explored psychological and neurological differences between individuals with liberal and conservative political orientations. Some studies suggest that these differences might extend to various cognitive, emotional, and neurological domains. For instance, research published in scientific journals such as "Current Biology" and "Social Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience" has highlighted distinctions in areas like response to threats, openness to new experiences, and cognitive flexibility. However, correlating these findings directly with the appeal of ideologies like Nazism or Fascism is highly complex and contentious. Nazism and Fascism are specific historical and political ideologies that emerged from particular social, economic, and historical contexts. The appeal of such ideologies can be influenced by a multitude of factors beyond individual psychological or neurological predispositions, including social, economic, and cultural conditions. It's essential to approach the question with caution, as attributing complex social phenomena like the appeal of Fascism or Nazism to neurological or psychological predispositions alone can be overly simplistic and potentially misleading. Additionally, it's crucial to consider the ethical implications of attempting to link political beliefs or ideologies directly to brain structure or function. Research in political psychology continues to evolve, and while it offers intriguing insights into how individuals might process information and make political judgments, the relationship between these psychological or neurological differences and the appeal of specific political ideologies remains a topic of ongoing investigation and debate.

@Yousif right wing is a broad definition which include nationalism, fascism, conservative. But there are differences between these 3. So you can say that conservative is right wing and fascism is right wing, but not fascism is conservative, even if both are right wing.

Omg here we are. Brainwashed by call of duty games. That's the proof I am talking about! Can anyone else here see what I see? Please don't be shy, you will not be on the Nazi side.

Nope. Fascism and nationalism are Right-wing, but Not conservative. You can ask your woke Claude if you need to help to understand. conservatism has its own unique characteristics and values.

It didn't say clearly that it was conservative.just that it was NOT liberal. Please refer to Nazism in Hitler Germany because today's Nazism is different. I asked the same question chatgpt4 with reference to Hitler Germany. "Nazism, as embodied by Adolf Hitler's regime in Germany, is neither liberal nor conservative in the terms commonly used in contemporary political discourse, especially if we consider the broad and often differing definitions of liberalism and conservatism across different countries and historical periods. Instead, Nazism, or National Socialism, is classified as a far-right, totalitarian, and fascist ideology. Key characteristics of Nazism include extreme nationalism, racial supremacy, the promotion of racial purity, anti-Semitism, anti-communism, the rejection of democracy, and the belief in the need for a dictatorial leader. The Nazi movement sought radical change, aiming to completely overhaul the existing social, political, and economic order to establish a totalitarian state that emphasized racial hierarchy, militarism, and territorial expansion. In contrast, traditional conservatism generally seeks to preserve social institutions and values, emphasizing stability, tradition, and a gradual approach to change. Contemporary liberalism, particularly in the Western context, champions individual rights, equality, democracy, and often a degree of social and economic intervention by the state to address inequalities. Therefore, categorizing Nazism within the conventional liberal-conservative spectrum is misleading. The essence of Nazi ideology is fundamentally at odds with the principles of both liberalism and conservatism as understood in modern political contexts. Nazism represents an extreme, authoritarian form of fascist nationalism that defies placement on the standard left-right political spectrum, where liberalism and conservatism typically reside."

Careful, even if it can go in this absurd grotesk direction it is an oversimplification of this ideology. That's far from truth so why spreading this ? Do you want to frame Nazis as extra radical? My question is why do you prefer this version beyond accurate historical facts? And please think for yourself, Hitler and all other Nazi leaders, none of them were both blond and had blue eyes. It's really nonsense. Nazis would need to kill the whole planet. 6 billion people including 80 % of their own people.

Ok enough, Please provide me with a source. This is absolute nonsense! And don't link Just to the book mein Kampf. Give me the exact line that people who don't have specific eye or hair color should be eliminated. That would even include non-jews. Crazy how call of duty or Wolfenstein games have brainwashed you. You are lost in phantasy and that's exactly why I need to discuss with you here to help you get back.

This claim had not even the most radical Nazi in his mind. This is exaggerated. But I think you didn't mean that so seriously. But some people here could think Nazis really thought so radical.

You can correct these distortions by yourself with a lot of research but if you are addressing the maker of call of duty etc they are only interested in good sales figures. And the version of the common Nazis as for example in inglorious bastards with this narcistic sadistic and sarcastic behavior sells good.

@Danioover9000 I don't understand your last post, what exactly do you want from me? I don't get the context "Is it due to the Jewish elite ruling Hollywood and media overall? If most people's views are distorted and brainwashed by Inglorious Bastards and Call Of Duty, and by Hollywood?" It doesn't matter if the director is Jewish. What matters is if they spread a correct image of what really happened in history and not a distorted one. I have the feeling you are biased and are not interested in truth. Because you cannot handle what normal people are capable of.

There is a follow up video 2 years later.there he adviced to try it out.

@Breakingthewall it's typical woman behavior. If a man is in real trouble, don't expect your wife becomes caring. More likely she will be mad at you, even aggressive. What you see in this video is raw natural behavior from women. So a divorce would not happen because it's not a surprise. She is really afraid of losing him and at the same time angry about him that he gives her these nasty feelings. Total understandable. In the end it was more his fault.

What in your fantasy you think an out of body experience is? You were not in this reality there right? So you were out of this body there. No you are not a ghost. You can interact with things normally. It's like this real world. You can even cook food (but it gets glitchy). That's an classical out of body experience. I could not walk through walls in an out of body experience but I know it's possible.

@mmKay You see that's all I say. And yeah it's not all apples to apples though.

@mmKay where did I say Nazis were not corrupt? Of course they were. "Lead a normal life and feel free to cancel if you don't want to do some dirty tasks"? Do you understand what politely declining a task from that corrupt regime means for your family , business and possessions?" I probably do more understand than you do if you think you will be immediately deported. I even have personal evidence, a family member, he was in the SS, refused to work at a concentration camp because it was traumatic for him to do this dirty job. So what happened? Nothing really. No punishment at all. he took another job which had nothing to do with killing people. He lived a good life until he died in the age of 80. Interesting that I need to position myself if I see Nazis as good or bad. Such a black and white view I don't have. I am only interested in what was true. And as reality is complex , so is the behavior of Nazis. At the end they were human beings, or at least partly humans. So there is a lot of ambiguity in my posts here because if you want to hear the truth and not the repeated propaganda story things get complex and sometimes paradox. But if you really want a position from me, fine : I am against the image of Nazi Germany created by Hollywood war movies (inglorious bastards etc) and call of duty games. It's a distorted view of how it really was and many of you are brainwashed by this as I can also see in this thread. Most Nazis were not sadistic, narcistic psychos but total normal people like me and you who had probably their best times in their lifes in Nazi Germany until they lost the war. People today think that Germans were either total stupid or forced to participate in Hitler regime. But the truth is most Germans were willfully participating in it and glorified the Hitler regime. Hitler raised to country out of misery. And not only conservatives were Nazis, from all kind of classes. It was a unified country and there was not so much pressure needed to create this like people here think (no North Korea style).

You are not a software developer. You make it too complicated. Just copy paste the chatgpt code without reading it because that saves time, run the application and then see if it worked. In 90% of times it works. Only then (!) read the code.if it doesn't work, give ChatGPT the error message and let it correct the code. And repeat

@Dodo you had a real out of body experience this differs from lucid dreaming in it's realness. It looks like this real world just a bit more glitchy and like on LSD so if you look close enough Things start moving Your consciousness switches lightening off so you see everything but no shadows or light soucesm too difficult to compute

@Leo Gura yeah of course figuratively! But from what I know about civil normal Germans who were not real Nazis, pressure was not a big issue. Probably was the pressure as big as in China right now or less for accepting the government. So nothing really threatening you can live a normal life just follow some rules if you are not accepting the ideology of Nazis/Nazi regime. Only 5 million party members out of 70 million existed 1939. f you are not a party member you can still have a normal life. So the figuratively pressure Leo describes is not as strong as some Hollywood movies suggest. This does not include the last months of Germany. There went everything crazy. If you don't want to do some dirty tasks for the Nazis you are free to cancel, no one will punish you, you just loose some respect maybe. They had enough people in the genocide who participated willingly. Many thought probably If you are not doing it, some other comrate needs to do it for you.