OBEler

Ok let's summarize, the topic starter seems to mean that he is not the only one Jesus von Natzareth and others can access this Jesus state too. He talks about a high state of consciousness which seems permanent. If this state is the highest state is probably just wild speculation. But if he is not joking and really accessed a permanent state by whatever he was doing this should be honored. @threadstarter I would not start a war against psychedelics here because there is one forum member here who claims to be Jesus too after some psychedelics (where is he? Please come to this thread so that we have a discussion between two Jesus Christs - one sober Jesus and one drugged)

Let's get back to serious tone here.A bit less attention seeking

@Davino awesome explanation. Thank you! Leo has a slightly different version I think. Only his knot is all that exists. But it is too paradoxly and I probably misunderstood him and if his knot is infinity then it includes all other knots

It's so simple because you just look very limited from just one perspective. Now let's talk meta and assume multiple perspectives exist within existence. Can you explain solipsism from this meta perspective too?

@shree that looks bad ass. That's the sign, you are the new Jesus von Natzareth. The true one - made by 5 Meo. Amen

Sometimes things are so unspeakable you can only come up with a platitude

Very interesting.Can you tell how these effect you when going out? For example: I know modafinil you are more focused and awake, but how can you use this for going out? How to do this with nn dmt LSD is classic, I think everyone knows about that one

I think this Jesus thing is a tool of the ego to protect itself from the deeper truths which it cannot handle yet. That has nothing to do with religion Another thing could be that Jesus really is some kind of god / higher intelligence outside of the ego which can be accessed. We need to be open minded even if it can be dogmatic some times.

For you it's reality. For me I need to imagine that. I imagine it very tough

Great post, and I also rarely get hangover effects from LSD with headaches which lasts for days

I think this thread will be the biggest collection of videos about Nazi mind on this earth if this continues

I messaged you, I am open to the narrow path of transformation. Where is it? you sound a bit vague, but maybe for your own security to be not attacked

@puporing have you tried psychedelics? How many trips did you have done?

I can see that happening but Martin ball took over 8000 times 5 Meo and seems fine.I know one who took 500 times 5 Meo. Also seems fine But then are some special cases where they took damage. But this did not happen from chronic use but from one trip which went wrong. I wish there would be some reports of chronic use of 5 Meo and the results of it.

Thanks for sharing your experience, I feel more that headaches come from LSD hangover but I recognized these mild headache and dizziness from 5 Meo on some sessions too. Bufo is called the frog venom. I think you meant the synthetic 5 Meo substance

It could have many causes. I had a cold. I also was on a theme park taking first day 75 micro 1 D LSD and on second day I vaped at least 3 sessions on the day 5 meo. A session was around 15 minutes of vaping.On the third day I took 150 mg 1 V LSD which had overwhelmed me in it's effects and then I took a heavy rollercoaster with 360 loops, my head felt shaken by this ( disclaimer again: don't do this). After this day I experienced headaches for 4 days but I cannot know if it comes from LSD or 5 Meo or riding rollercoasters 3 days in a row while having a cold.

Sounds interesting but why don't you want to share your way openly on this forum?

Oh ok then I am really overdoing it. What did you do back then? How often and what road of administration?

How do you come to this conclusion, what was your spiritual journey so far? What other way do you think for a human will get you to the highest state

@James123 thats your assumption. Vaping alone without 5 Meo in it causes headaches. So having headaches is not a clear sign of overdoing 5 Meo. It can have other causes. I just ask me if here on this forum besides Leo has also these side effects sometimes.

Haha I think we have different approaches.But I highly respect your way of doing that. For sure you will get more out of it than 100 low doses. I just have sometimes a recreational side in me. I want to enjoy the beauty of creation on this level

Please read my disclaimer

I should have mentioned that it was an afterglow effect which lasts for several hours up to a week after the trip. So if I get into this state I will be there at least for 3 hours

Imagine you are a tech freak and you are watching Steve Jobs introducing the first iPhone for the first time back then. Exactly that feeling of beauty and amazement about the intelligence of design. It's very energetic, like a light bulb in your head going on. You can feel electric explosions emerging in your head and waves wash over you like taking a shower of energy I can reproduce this sometimes with 5 Meo on low doses and this state is what I am looking for

With a vape pen you take a dose of 0.6 mg 5 Meo dmt. The effects on this low level are almost not noticable and even if, it's just for a minute and then wears off quickly