OBEler

You wrote here the same feeling I also have in terms of 5 Meo DMT. This is exactly how I have built resistance to do a breakthrough 5 Meo. The unexpected intensity and the potential repercussions on my loved ones...well written.

What do you mean by that and is that your root fear, that you don't want to discover again this same insight again?

You were not completely out of body but it's a start.

@Vignan I plugged 50 mg one time and had almost zero effects so go full 75 mg

What do you think about this new technology? Will you buy it for this price? Do you see practical usage for self development/improvement with this device?

With the peak on MDMA you will be ready.100%

@Breakingthewall Nice! looks like a cocktail. But vaping is healthier. it's not smoke because it does not combust.

@Breakingthewall that's exactly how I also think about it. how did you use it? With a vape pen? I get this artificial feeling on a vape pen with additionaly slightly mild headaches if I vape casually here and there during the day (just very mild doses on 1:12 cartridge)

You talk like my girlfriend is a beginner. She had already over 100 trips on many substances and managed them all well. I already told she is experienced. 5 Meo is not a dissociative substance. and again I talk about microdosing. Having a microdose on ultra substance is still a microdose. So effects are very weak and not ultra.

Sorry your comment makes no sense. 5 Meo and weed or shrooms are completely different categories. Don't ever compare them.If she gets panic attacks from weed you cannot conclude that you get this with 5 Meo microdose. She is experienced in taking 5 Meo by the way. And I don't want to find out what substance gives her panic attack (from 10 different substances on normal doses none so far). It's the opposite, I want to know which substance can stop panic attacks.

That's also my experience with these sadghuru followers. They rationalize not taking them by saying "going the natural way is safer", which is not true at all and the results are weak. They should be honest to themselves that most of them are weak and close minded ignorant sheeps of sadghuru who are just afraid of doing real spirituality. Doing yoga exercises are effective only for these few who have the genetics. But if these would do psychedelics too they would even more progress. It's wasted talent to just do yoga.

It's not me but my girlfriend. Other roa works perfect but vaping has advantage that you immediately can take it, you get immediately the effects and you have perfect dose control and it acts very short.

I am looking forward to read! Thank you

@Leo Gura it's my girlfriend.She very rarely had panic attacks on psychedelics (only on ego losses) and managed them well. These were not full blown panic attacks like when she is sober and on psychedelics they are just very short. Her sober panic attacks can be very heavy and last long. It's clearly a different kind of panic

@Ishanga No He doesnt Claim that. Where does he write such things? I think you have some phantasy about enlightened people. Even if you are high conscious you can suffer like every human from stress or whatever. Yes high conscious people will probably not suffer from lower consciousness issues like obese and addiction. But they will not be immune against all kind of things like cancer, pollution of environment or if the body lacks energy.

It may be easier on a certain level but if you look closely many YouTubeer quit completely because of burnout, even if their channel works great. It's constant pressure 24/7. Maybe you can handle that better whatever you do. Are you at least a public figure? To topic: it would be interesting to hear from long term users of psychedelics if they noticed any changes in a bad way.

@Francis777 how was your Kundalini activated?

Wow thanks for this trip Report..you handled everything like master in psychedelics and just had one mushroom trip before. That shows a lot of trips don't really matter. Your age maybe helps. I observed younger people can handle strong psychedelic experiences way more easily and better than middle aged ones.

@khalifa I think these kiloby inquiry is too weak to solve your problem. One more 5 Meo breakthrough would be needed I think. You can loose a lot of your fear with taking 5 Meo if you take many times just a little dose. I know someone who got blasted away from 5 Meo and was swearing after that that he will never take psychedelics again. But just by taking small doses the body learned way to trust the substance more and more so the person had a smooth breakthrough after doing over 10 trips with low doses. Fear can go away with this

Leo made no secret why he needed a break ( burnout, stomach problems). Read his blog articles.But ok you can still wonder if you want

@AerisVahnEphelia there was a ama reddit post of someone who took 2 years every day 200 Microgramm LSD. He worked in a normal job. No one noticed he was high. He quit because it was too expensive I think He had not recognized any changes. (I hope I will find this thread again) Maybe we can collect here some anecdotes from long-term users/ heavy users.

I would stop making wild speculations, not talking about a specific person you don't know at all. And you don't know how Leos health was before shooting videos.he was overweight for long time and in bad health before. There are many people who have bad health, with or without psychedelics.By the way, correlation is not causation. For example you can say you observe that many psychedelic users are depressed so you think psychedelics make you depressed. But it could be the other way around. People were depressed in the first place and now try psychedelics to cure them. They reduce the depression even but a bit of a depression stays.

@AerisVahnEphelia ok I now understand better what you mean. Yes you can recognize weed users even after quitting on their behavior. Neurotic, talking randomly, jumping from one topic quickly to another without being linked. It's disturbing to watch for non weed users like me. Psychedelic users could therefore also experience some unusual traits. I would not call this as withdrawal symptoms.more like the experience you had shaped you. Like a war veteran. And of course there must be some changes in the brain too.it is more connected for sure. I think psychedelic users are more connected to their emotions

This is a bit confusing to read. In the end you can talk about everything about safety concerns. Cars, smartphones plastic, VR. Everything has risks, you don't know the long-term consequences. You always can say that Yes the best safety is to do as rarely as possible. But then you also will not have the results. What withdrawal effects are you talking about. Never heard that and never read that someone got withdrawal effects from psychedelics. Don't make things up. LSD is on the market for 80 years, was heavily researched in 60s and 70s. if there would be withdrawal effects we would know already. I do psychedelics for 6 years. No withdrawal whatsoever, not even the tiniest bit. And I consumed over 10 different substances over 200 times into all kinds of holes in my body. I think every two weeks is fine for most people. Meditation can be very boring and you need a lot of discipline. Your gains are mostly lost if you stop meditation completely. Meditation cannot replace psychedelics

I think on lower doses your ego is still too much intact On higher doses there is not so much ego left which categorize things into good or bad. So things you normally see as bad like a tinnitus will be experienced differently then