OBEler

You underestimate us. Even kids can handle hardcore versions of solipsism. If your version of solipsism is true then our psyche is through evolution already programmed to handle this truth and go on. Back then you introduced us to solipsism which first time hearing was indeed destabilizing, also because of your radical way of explaining things. But now years have passed and we had 100 of solipsism threads. Everyone has now already heard about one version or another of solipsism. So your version (even if it's the most radical that no consciousness is behind anyone including your own and you are completely alone) will not shock so anymore. My girlfriend is spiritual gifted and took Malt, thanks to that she lives in solipsism.I never told her anything about you and your teachings. But even she is fine with that after a little integration. Nothing really changes in terms of going on with mundane life.

@Leo Gura we all think like classic solipsism. Can you once and for all clarify what your version of Solipsism is? First you were agreeing about ken wilbers version of solipsism based on the video. Now you disagree because in his book he write it more in detail. So what exactly is your version of solipsism. And not just one zen- sentence again where you can interpret. Best way would be using the example with the picture of small circles of podium and audience.

@Keryo Koffa you have some real talent Leo should hire you to visualize us what he want to tell with all this solipsism stuff

Hahaha 🤣 leos every day interaction with this forum

Use a vape pen with own cartridges and you don't need to load for redosing

But you could call one awakening deeper or more beautiful than another so this could be seen as a hierarchy And your alien mind awakening seems deeper than all others before. That would explain why it was your latest awakenings. So each awakening goes deeper and deeper and is more hard to reach. I would see that as a hierarchy

Even if you could live from that state, would it still be miserable if you have a bad health or would this state transfer suffering somehow.

@Leo Gura ok thanks for answering all my questions. This is really alien like. Still asking me if there would be still a way how a human could exploit this state for his own survival.

Ok I thought so. But could another human being give the alien mind an input of information, the alien mind process it with its alien mind state and could give an output? If language is too simple for an output maybe drawing pictures or something like that. Can this alien mind state use your concepts and memory about this world

@Leo Gura can you measure this alien mind somehow, like taking an IQ test while in this consciousness state. What would probably be the outcome

But this higher level than human experience, is it somehow linked to anything on this world or is it in it's completely own reality and there is no interaction with this world here on earth possible. For example you could not talk with us while you are in this alien mind. You could not transfer any knowledge to this realm. You could not show us this transformation on camera etc

You said take 100 breakthroughs with 5 Meo DMT to be sure to figure out what your version of Solipsism means.So just using your intelligence alone is not enough. So it's not so easy what you really mean. Are you the center? But if reality is center less..

@Leo GuraMany here are still confused about solipsism, because in your solipsism video many could read out that you said there is no consciousness experience behind anyone you see. You said: "There is no one ... No one but you" I think many people just heard the first

See it as sacrifice for the rule of the game. If you would exclude trauma and suffering from the game we are then here again with a meaningless boring game. Someone needs to sacrifice for the whole. We need contrast and limitations to create meaning, growth,free will and special sensations

@shree Because through limitations you get things more meaningful, interesting, exiting, understandable. Growth is possible. You can taste specific things. Or do you want to eat a food that is unlimited and contains all tastes possible? How disgusting. If you get everything for free you don't value anything in life. You would jump out of the window, no fear because you are invincible. It becomes boring as hell. Like cheatcodes in a game could ruin the whole game.

Yeah try not to try so to speak So do not try to accept. Do not try to be the observer. Do not try to love So if I can't try what can I do if it hits really hard

@shree do you like to be unlimited instead? I thought you find that scary and pure insanity

@Emotionalmosquito to answer this I think it's the intention behind. You switch to observer but in the background you try to escape the situation nevertheless. I think you can be the observer and at the same time hold other coping mechanism in you to prevent the situation. So this would not work I think only if you are the observer and nothing else in you fight against someonething this would work. But how to be only the observer? I think it's impossible to control. So saying to someone "just observe dude" will not help at all. Also not in a panic attack Edit: I am still confused, because if 5 Meo destroys your coping mechanism whats left ? Why can't you then just be the observer

What do you mean by that ? Is inner psychic resistant not just more coping mechanism? And why does it manifest in synchronicities 5 Meo destroys your coping mechanism so you are completely naked so to speak. No chance to do anything. Maybe try to do nothing is then the way (if it's not part of coping mechanism, real do nothing like "ok I am done get me finished")

Wow that makes sense! Thanks I will have a look at this video again

@shree when 4 aco DMT hits really bad again turn on swisha house to keep it real:

@shree would you say it's 4 aco DMT or it's because your 5 Meo breakthroughs have opened you up too much so that you now become sensitive sometimes

W Wow great! @What Am Icomes into my mind who shared great wisdom that body awareness is key to prevent bad trips. "WhatAmI: As far as methods to boost spiritual alignment and deepen your experience of psychedelics and life in general, I've found inner body awareness practices to be the most powerful."

Wow thanks a lot for this rare trip report. We don't have much reports on keta on this forum. 400 mg plugged is a huge amount. It seems you already have tolerance. A bit over 100 mg plugged should be already a khole for what I read

Thank you so much for clarifying this. The first one sounds more like Leo's talking in his deleted solipsim video ("I am God dreaming reality, they mean that I am the center, a focus from which reality is projected like a movie"). That would explain why he says nothing exists outside your bubble formed by your ego. You are the center of reality. Maybe Leo evolved out of this with his second follow up video about Infinity of God's. @Leo Guraplease correct me if I am wrong