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Even if you can do astral projections/OBEs, they don't come close to psychedelics. I tried exactly this experiment with my girlfriend. I never told her about Leo.I never gave her spiritual books, she cannot read english so it's impossible that she ever went to this forum. I never told her about anything spiritual, like god , solipsim. I gave her psychedelics to cure her depression. But she gradually awakened. First she met Jesus several times , also other gods. Then she met zeus the god of all gods. Her first glimps, she told me somehow she was him. Then 30 trips later she had a first 5 Meo breakthrough. After that she told me exactly what Leo told you all the way. You are everything. There is only you. You are completely alone. But you split yourself like infinite mirrors. But there can't be someone else but you. You create everything around you with your mind. That were exactly her words. It's true solipsim. And she is fine with that.

@Davino yes particularly the solipsim. The biggest checkpoint I think.

@Davino can you elaborate? How it played out for you, the checkpoint of no return. I know it will be different for everyone.

@Davino my ego mind see this as the highest price ever. Really I would probably go insane or just want to lie in bed and sleep and wish to forget. However my girlfriend doesn't care about. She is fully conscious that she creates everything with her mind including me and I don't exist etc. she said it's just normal. For you how high was this price?

@Leo Gura yeah I wish the price could be told more concrete to people who are in the middle of their journey. Like telling students if it's worth doing the whole master degree of college and what's the price for it or just doing a bachelor degree is enough or ending studying completely and focus on something else, finish later. I am afraid of points of no return ( mayor shifts in consciousness, seeing through things/illusions like solipsim which stay probably forever, energetic stress related damage like tinnitus). That's a high price for me.

We discussed this on other threads. he stopped tripping because his health status doesn't allow it right now.

I had such phases where I regretted deeply to even start with spirituality because my life was too different and I was in a kind of altered state of consciousness for month until I found balance. I got way more stronger out of this spiritual crisis. Do you think god realization is for most people way better than the price they pay for it? I remember your interview with Martin ball where you both thought many should experience a 5 Meo breakthrough and becoming god.

@Ishanga if you don't follow basic rules about discussion I will give you further warning points. Don't play the victim card here and grow up. I told you in a friendly way that you should overthink your writing style. You cannot behave and write here like a child.

@theleelajoker introducing is a difficult word because you always get introduced by someone/something. I mean with introduced more like passively told to do something. Mostly a man doesn't get introduced by someone. For example He watches a YouTube video about cod, then researches about this game by himself, he buys the PlayStation and this game by himself, he plays by himself. He made it by himself to play this game out of curiosity. Most women don't do this, they need someone who did all these steps before and then they just trust them blindly. Same with psychedelics.

@Ishanga please read carefully. I never wrote that you are against psychedelics. I wrote that you attack psychedelic users for their experiences they make, dismiss them, call them narcissists - which you can do. But expect that not everyone shares your opinion and handle some criticism. I gave you warning points for your writing style. I warned you before. It's hard to read, please correct your grammar and follow basic syntactic rules before you post something.

@theleelajoker it's my observation, which is limited so far and could be biased. I don't wanted to say men must save women or must show them psychedelics. I wanted to say it's more up to men if women take psychedelics or not because they alone don't come to the idea to research psychedelics and take them in the end by themselves. Are you a woman? If you were introduced from women, maybe these women were introduced by men? Again. I feel that psychedelics are somehow in men's hand. Like grill tongs in men's hand or a PlayStation controller. You know that I mean?

@Ishanga what I know about you is that you never tried any psychedelics by yourself but you talk like you are an expert in this field and constantly attack psychedelic users as some narcists. If you make such big claims expect some criticism.If you cannot handle that then maybe think about your writing style. By the way your writing style is confusing and hard to read. Please use correct grammar and punctuation here at least.

@Ishanga @IshangaI mirror your dictator style, how do you think about if someone tells you how to live life without being asked? Please keep in mind, that we are not here in spirituality section so again keep this for another thread.

It sounds ridiculous to hear this from someone who never touched any psychedelic to give such an confident advice. You never had any God experience at all. You never had any psychedelic experiences at all. But here you are throwing out unproven claims, Guaranteed!!!

@Ishanga you are misunderstanding the thread. It's about to learn from his behavior and not fall in trap by yourself. You don't need all the information for this. This is no gossip but serious analysis. "Just live your life, realize what life is and live it to its fullest potential"... Don't tell anyone here how to live life. Keep your wise quotes for another thread.

@dualnon his newest investments into building humanoid robots could be playing out.

@LambdaDelta freebase plus 2 drops of white vinegar works good. No burning sensations.

@Nilsi typical tech bro talk. This video is full of fake show offs. These kick flips from unitree are scripted by the way.

How can you be full responsible if you as ego cannot control everything like the weather. Only as God but when you come back you are human again.

Japanese kids also act stiff and robotic, that's asian culture. Asia people don't behave like us western people with ADHD and hyper individualistic like every girl is a princess.

Wow...truth songs. And of course only an ai can produce that music perfectly. Although some Isha songs also have truth songs https://youtu.be/G7W3_YdQK4M?si=wzmhVvf-U31KUOD3

@Verg0 hey I love your channel because it's unique about 5 Meo and love to follow your personal journey. I am highly academic myself (have two degrees in different subjects) so I just give you some advice how to speak to such an audience: As you already know probably you cannot speak like in your channel in unstructured, repetitive way. Be clearly pointed. Do not repeat a point with different words over and over again. Don't speak about your own journey , that's highly subjective, be more general. Don't speak too much about soft facts like motivation and feelings. Don't be a philosoph. Don't talk like a Buddhist who throws out wise words, concentrate on psychedelics. They want to hear about psychedelics. Deliver high quality facts. I know you are more the feeling guy who entertains. I would be careful to not fulfill the clichees, like represent the typical ayahuasca hippie. Deliver facts and remember quality over quantity. Also I recommend to get a hair cut, wear normal clothes, put your nose strips off, hide your pipe. They will judge that quickly.

@Davino I have the general feeling that women can get way deeper way faster more easily to truth than men. However they are somehow not interested contemplating about it or they do it quiet but will not share it with you. Women definitely handle spirituality different than men. But that's another topic. I mean the Internet alone is a place of men. Every forum. 90% men. Women don't like discussing things in general. Almost all trip reports are coming from men. Look at it. Women don't talk about it. I bet almost no women would take psychedelics on their own. It's always a man coming along who gives these to them. They don't discover psychedelics for themselves.So what Leo says that those who really want truth will find a way is not realistic. A woman needs a man who introduce her to psychedelics otherwise truth will not come to them. @theleelajoker

Now I ask me what indicator is needed. When would it be wise that "normal" people go for this journey. My girlfriend is deeply spiritual by nature but she was not interested in truth. However she immensely improved after her 5 Meo breakthrough and seeing the truth. It's really tricky.

But to what degree should people at least wake up a bit? One 5 Meo breakthrough at least? Is it not worth to have one God realization at least? My girlfriend was never interested in truth. Never explored it. One 5 Meo breakthrough she discovered she is the only one and constructs everything around her. I asked her if she was shocked and she said, no it was total normal something she knew already somehow. Just after 30 minutes of the breakthrough passed she already was speaking about mundane stuff again. She never talked about me again about her experience (because it's not worth to speak about, too deep she said) nor she wanted a breakthrough dose again. How different are we.