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@mamad It seems like a discrepancy in status, but it’s pride, and really that’s just jealousy. When you equate attraction to survival, I suggest considering what you really mean is survival of ego, identity, self image, ambition, etc. In my estimation what you really want is her, however she is, and for you to make more money. In this specific case I would like to bet you one million dollars, that learning, understanding and using the emotional scale is very literally worth millions of dollars to you. Have your people call my people.

Nothing exists, or nothing and also an observer or measurer?

@Tyler Durden Well, apparently it means we need to nail up the next guy because we still ain’t getting it. I don’t know how we determine who that next guy is though.

Oh Jesus.

Fantastic work. Well done sir.

This understandably sounds like some zen bs in a certain way, but really consider this happens at light speed. Sidenote, to make great great new sense of all your psychedelic experiences, remove that “during shrooms” part. One way to point, any discernments, distinctions, or properties assigned to the psychedelic is actually projection. It’s like taking a teaching but missing it by believing it’s about the psychedelic. To ’embody’ instead of deflect, I’m guessing there are some things you are not comfortable with, specifically like feedback. Analogously, any guitarist knows when there is the experience of feedback blaming the amplifier does not help. Actually, every single person in the crowd is aware of this.

Perfect. Thoughts arise; I am having. Thoughts arise; me, I, mine. Thoughts arise; one. Thoughts arise; we. Thoughts arise; problem.

Do what you will of course, but I would try psychotherapy. Psychedelics don’t quite work the way you believe they do. Psychotherapy is a specific therapy, and is tailored to what you’re describing. It can help with seeing that you are ‘holding on’, not this other thing, the ego. It’s essentially the unwinding of thought attachment, namely the thoughts that you need the substance or the therapy. Probably sounds like nothing is being said here, and “zen”, or “vague”, but the distinction is letting ‘something’ (belief isn’t really a thing per se) go, and not believing the thought about needing something, and then seeking that something. Find specifically, a psychotherapist not experiencing thought attachment. Not that you need to, and this is not meant in any personal way. Wish you the best, much love!

Try to think of it as straightforward, obvious and simple, and entirely already within your control, as apposed to some ‘thing’ sort of ‘still out there’ which you don’t ‘understand yet’. Believing (and expressing) that there is something needed (understanding) is how you veil yourself from the truth (yourself). Nothing’s hidden, nothing needs to be understood. It’s only a matter of letting go of the beliefs you already have. The really tricky aspect is now there is the internet, where people suffering from thought attachment can now convincingly sell their belief that you need to understand, what they have attached to and identified with, and believe they are ‘understanding’. (They have to first believe they have something to sell, or of course realize they don’t but lie) The issue is magnified by firmly believing they ‘know’ or ‘understand’ something you don’t. It’s like saying ‘you’re parents are at the hospital and told me to pick you up from school’. That isn’t true, but the kid will believe it if it’s said with conviction, as if an authority. The kid will basically think, oh well shit I guess I need to follow them. (Which is thought activity).

True means not false, false means not true. Unless you can’t read English. Then there is no memory of any meaning arising, nor a meaning of memory. Looplessness.

This is like when the lights come on at the end of a rave.

Ego will always condone ego, intelligence will never harm itself, physically, mentally, or emotionally. In the same way one might experience a fragmented finite mind, and the only solution is therefore unification… the only way for a society experiencing ostracism is unity. For as long as we ostracize we remain fragmented. And of course the truth is that we actually don’t. It’s only a facade. Like, all of it. There really is nothing you can do that can’t be done.

@Javfly33 Grounding. …just gonna leave that there in a general manor. Don’t toss the baby out with the bath water.

@ZahariaNicu Nihilism, or a nihilist, would find spiral dynamics information & any values therein meaningless.

Contentment is an emotion, so it is either felt or not. Some times, or other times, are thoughts. That “I” which is thought to feel in a past or future, is also a thought. How do the thoughts about nihilism feel, which emotion arises? How do the thoughts of cynicism feel, which emotion arises? There is a good chance that you have equated those thoughts with feeling, by thinking they are emotions. There’s a decent chance the black humor is a defensive mechanism, to not feel, explore & understand emotions. Feeling & exploring emotions is the opposite direction of nihilism. Very, very important distinction in such a case, that nihilism is not a feeling or emotions, but is very much a refusal of feeling and emotion. It’s somewhat possible this emotional misinterpretation is repeating in your life, while outside situations & circumstances seem to explain it, but then always prove not to. There’s a somewhat calculable chance that this is effecting relationships in terms of connecting and intimacy as well, and flying a bit under the radar. But it’s absolutely certain that you’d be very glad you dove into and understood the emotional scale. You’d be making everything in your life (and the entire path) easier and far more enjoyable, and if there is some awareness to this fact (100%) that would explain the anger. As resistance. But, setting all that aside, can you feel contentment, with just this moment as it is?

I mean, at a point there isn’t attention any more to give em.

Nonduality isn’t a concept. The very word says not two, and a concept would make two. Christianity also points to nondual, but rather than stating what isn’t, ‘Christianity’ suggests what is. But to you, nonduality & Christianity are indeed concepts. Assuming of course, you in and of itself isn’t purely conceptual.

AMA How does understanding the emotions experienced liberate one from such a place? Thank you in advance for your answer.

I don’t know about y’all but if I was about forget the awesomeness, I’d have the foresight to have something growin right out of the ground at the ready. Something that basically grows on shit, so for as long as there’s folks eatin, there’s folks rememberin. I mean, attention would be for the place, the life, but they’d be there. Can’t be too careful traveling these days.

A dreamboard. Write what you want on it. Lightly speaking, confusion is the con, that there are two, which could be fused. In truth there is already not ‘these two things’ which ‘could be balanced’. ‘These two things’ are already one. The path is not a deviation from your living, this living is the path, this life is the only actual teacher. When you write what you want on your dreamboard, is actually does start showing up. Also, there might be the experience of doubt, or fear, or unworthiness, etc. In using the emotional scale, one understands the emotions one is experiencing, as well as how to create the emotional experience one desires. The implication is the actualizing, actually experiencing in reality what arises within you to create and experience. Jesus spoke of the importance of understanding the seed and the fertile soil. The Buddha spoke of emptying your cup, and right action. To bring the parables more to the literal, this is to meditate and allow thought activity to settle (emptied cup), and to effortlessly focus on the desirable idea, of the desirable experience to be created. Keep the seed (idea), as well as this place (fertile soil), nourished with love and attention, which is effortless, and which effort will not do for. Come to know and see the joy for yourself, of it actually growing and manifesting in this pace. In many ways, without this understanding and this living as creator-creating-creation, this whole gig makes no sense at all. You might like this video. It has some illustrations in regard to these topics. Sometimes things ‘click’ more readily with visual aids. Honestly, nothing I say is important, seeing this in action so to speak, in real, for yourself, is where it’s at. What’s being said is absolutely woo woo, but, it is not confusing. It is the former confusion, conditioning…unwinding, untangling… as it’s meeting with simplicity, alignment, the end of confusion, the end of suffering. It’s also (imo) a great idea to spend some time googling the Buddha, and what was said in regard to distinctions between pain, and suffering. Psshhh. Thank you. Sorry for the condition of the hand off of the place lol! Godspeed.

The key to everything you describe is understanding the emotions.

Awareness is nondual. If non-conceptual, it’s in fact conceptual.

It would be quite assumptive to believe that is like everyone else, as in, that everyone else is experiencing life in that way. In any case, don’t be rash. Relax. From this lens, major stuff is being seen, much is clicking, and you’re actually doing unbelievably well. On the practical, get it done, but maybe employ a 45mins of work / focus, and a 15 mins walk, complete zoom out, no you and nature, just nature. ? Much love for you my friend. Everything is working out for you. I know it’s hard, yet, everything is working out for you. Feel that, in spite of thoughts, in spite of even perception, feel that. Thoughts will arise in kind, as will perception.

@Someone here Much love for you man, all I’m sayin is don’t settle for the cover story of states, look under the hood of these states as many are. Really see what’s going on in them.

@Someone here Parroting in the sense, you were called ‘dense’ like, what, a week ago or so?