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@wavydude ?

@Gustav I think the categories on the main page of the forum are listed purposefully. Enjoy your life. Do everything.

@shamaanitar fucking beautiful man. Love needs not love. I’m jealous of what is ahead of you! ❤️

@Monkey-man meaning for nothing is experiential.

@Leo-Tzu foundation and a hero dose. Neither is less important.

The only reality is nothing; everything is not actually anything, it’s illusionary / appearance. What we can’t see or hear, what we traditionally refer to as nothing, is actually reality, as in real and eternal. It’s there, which is actually nowhere, right “under” or “behind” everything, though it’s all there is, so ‘nothing is hidden’ - It’s “within” or “behind” and is, what your person is, similar to how you are “behind” everyone in your dreams, though in the dream it “appears” other people are “there”. As I experience it, I refer to it, as love, and I could not be without it no matter where I go or what I do, because everywhere I go, and anything I do, is actually, in reality, more illusion of ‘me’. Every ‘thing’ takes place as the illusion of this love / nothingness, which is what I am. It can be experienced, but not by you, because it is you. Experiencing no “you” (human / person) is experiencing actual you. When experienced, the traditional “you” is revealed as no more ‘you’ than a tree, as everything sensing, and everything sensed, is the illusion of the real you. To use science jargon, what’s on the other side of the wall in front of you, is still in superposition / uncollapsed / the real you, everything that is not yet any thing, because it’s nothing / all things in actuality, and no thing yet in appearance. In spirituality terms, it’s God, and it’s you, in actuality there’s no term for it, because it is “behind” any thing which thinks and says any words. So a word always “points” or suggests what it is, never actually describing it. The words God / everything / nothing / self / etc, are words used in an illusion intended to describe what is not the illusion, so they don’t actually describe any thing, they just reinforce the relative point from the illusion. “It” is the ‘space’ between the words. “It” is silence. Just my thoughts / experience / opinion on this everybody, don’t get your panties in a twist on “me”. ?❤️

@zazed well said man!

@Cepzeu that’s sometimes referred to as the copenhagen model, or the ‘collapse’ of reality contingent on observation / measurement, but the only reality is nothing.

@Angelo John Gage I haven’t tried it....the ketamine that is. Me & the beer go way back.

@Angelo John Gage I have seen this Super Ego drug you speak of....

@Ilya have you went away for a few days, alone, and not talked?

@egoless @Girzo that would be helpful to me also. Thanks!

@Stevo I’m no authority on it, just from my experience, mental equanimity first (through practices), then psychedelics to actually see it (from it / as it). When the psych’s kick in, if one has worry, fear, etc...that will prevent / block the ‘seeing’. “Willing to die” is a pinch strong, but I don’t know of a more accurate phrase. Godspeed brutha! Also, there is the social aspect to consider. Once you’ve seen behind the curtains, you can’t unsee it. So, you’ll see paradigms as they are in - in people’s minds - and you’ll want to explain this, but if they haven’t experience equanimity & the “Godhead” (or whatever) then there is no communicating it to anyone.

@zazed “almost impossible”? Or impossible? That’s kind of what I’m asking. What, in your experience, led you to favor many worlds, vs Copenhagen. It’s entirely possible that mw’s Has been proven to be the actual situation and maybe I’ve missed it. Either way, I’m interested to know. Thanks!

@Azrael right.. good stuff. Good luck to you!

@Azrael awesome. And ‘disidentify’ I presume?

@JohnLeyo i love it. I go somewhere I haven’t been, alone, once and a while. I find it profound. ❤️

@Azrael I like it. It strikes me as solid self inquiry, but with a guide / coach. I think it could be very useful. Taking the time is the most important thing! Could help someone who isn’t doing it on their own, due to not facing the fear of their buried past. Any distinguishments from this? https://www.scientology.org/faq/scientology-and-dianetics-auditing/what-is-auditing.html Also, I have witnessed the E-meter being used. It is helpful in the sense, it is very convincing to the subject.

@Dodo Claims that the practice spread suddenly to other isolated populations of monkeys may be called into question given the fact that at least one washing monkey swam to another population and spent about four years there and also the monkeys had the researchers in common. Amundson also notes that the sweet potato was not available to the monkeys prior to human intervention. The number of monkeys in the colony was counted as 59 in 1962 indicating that even in numbers no "hundredth monkey" existed.[1][8] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect the fields are one explanation, the monkey swimming over, the humans bringing sweet potatoes, that’s another explanation. I’m asking, why and how is it, that no explanation prevails amoung the options. It never does, and never will. What do you make of this in the big picture so to speak? Like the collapse version in comparison to the many worlds version. @AleksM. ?

@Angelo John Gage God.

Why do you guys think it is that neither the Copenhagen or many worlds model ( or any of the others) have been ‘proven’ over the others? We probably all have our favorite, or our preference, but scientifically & mathematically, why do you think one has not risen above the rest?

@Amadeusz you get to do both ?

vulgar display of power.