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There’s no objective reality. It’s all belief. It’s ALL you. Loa is working on that level. Pure allowing. No resistance of the mind. No “other”. No “thing”.

@smd Go one step previous to what you think about his ongoings. Contemplate that it’s your judgement that bugs you, not what some guy is doing. You mentioned “we all die alone”. That’s a false premise, in a way, and at the base of your misunderstanding in perceiving what dude is doing. That premise requires holding beliefs that you are not currently alone and that you are currently ‘alive’ in the sense that you will die. It’s the duality trap of alive / dead, existence, nonexistence. Dude is less identified with the body / mind, so he is liberated, at least in this sense, and doing what he would probably refer to as ‘just living’. Hear the underlying “why” he isn’t sweating the potential outcomes - it’s because he trusts in the much bigger picture (imo). I find a clear correlation between loa and quality of marriage. Not as a rule, but as a generality. Someone who would say “loa is total bullshit”, is likely to be oblivious to the role of their own attitude and contributions in their marriage (towards parents too). Someone who atleast entertains the actuality of loa, takes ownership for their “vibration”, their attitude, their choices. They take this view to the biggest picture, taking their own personal accountability to a higher level, and their actions and words reflect this. They don’t blame their husband / wife for their own suffering, and they are highly unlikely to have issues like alchoholism and drug addiction. Those substances are typically used to mask their own role in their own misery. Thus it is perpetuated and seemingly growing in terms of difficulty of penetrating.

@Mighty Mouse nice!

@Ian Just use the force, even though it’s undefinable.

@star ark what are atoms made of? I think it could clarify the free will.

@Psyche_92 Does he say anything about what preceded his awakening?

@star ark What is an atom, though?

The eyeball, the air, and the object are all the same. Life is pretty amazing. That there are physics is more amazing - fields that we can’t even see are magically keeping all this happening. Superposition is even more amazing, what it reveals - ?. String theory is just mind blowing. The more we look at reality the more we see how amazing it is. Realizing it was you all along is unspeakable.

@Ian Maybe think about yourself as an everychanging thing, versus definable. Even time you define yourself, you changed. Isolate the catalyst as your anger, not what anyone says. You’re already aware of the triggers, become more aware of the reaction and response, then contemplate on it.

@Ian “When people stand in my way, I become angry”. What’s up with that? What’s going on, who’s “standing in your way?”

@Faceless I understand what you’re saying, that is the value of meditation and psychedelics. Thinking is entirely of the illusion.

Uncover it.

@Highest Just opinion / suggestion - try em again. With a foundation. Systematically. I’ve been fortunate enough to travel extensively and enjoy the best pot on earth. Psychedelics are another thing. They can rip all of you away, and yet leave you in reality.

@molosku Thanks for sharing that. Reminded me of this video / speech, which I’ve always loved.

@Highest When you state that, about weed, have you experienced psychedelics?

@Faceless Thought is not enough. It’s far beyond thought. Thinking is for things like using your cell phone, which is practically impossible on even 2 grams of shrooms. Meditation can take us beyond / behind thinking. Clarity is a thought thing. Clarity is not synonymous at all with nonthinking.

Without ego, there is nothing to manage though. If the ego is truly dissolved, the union is constant, unconditional love is the default state of being. Enlightenment, in terms of going full circle, or returning to where one was to begin with, means God. It means one was never a separate thing to begin with, that was simply a perspective. The ego is behind the thinking of training it. This is a trick used to sustain itself, to sustain beliefs. The only way to hold the belief that one would always have ego is to not have experienced reality without it.

@Psyche_92 So, that teacher has never practiced meditation? Or self inquiry? Or contemplation? Or years of Yoga? Or took psychedelics? Yet, they are enlightened, are in a non dual state? I’m very interested in what, if anything, he or she did do that lead to their enlightenment. Care to share? On unwanted emotional experiences, I find only awareness will cure it. It’s all self imposed, and rooted in fear. A lack of awareness and self honesty is required for it to be reoccurring.

@Highest Great point. I can speak, at least, for high doses of psylicibin, and they rip away the ego and it’s beliefs. Self discovery is really a no-belief thing.

This is the reason self inquiry and mediation, etc, are suggested. When we hear what someone says, we’re in a position to believe or not believe, and some times people even skip the belief consideration and just say that now they know, based on what they’ve heard. The only synonym I come up with, from my practices, is unconditional love & absolute. Some say there’s just a void of nothing. Some say it just is. Some say we are not it. Some say we are it. There is still only one way to find out. Self inquiry is powerful. How does one know if they have sorted through their own beliefs, ego, assumptions, and got the bottom of things? I say it’s like being in love, you know when you know, it’s transcendent to thinking, rationalization, and communication. The real question is how dedicated is one to their own discovery of the truth, which requires radical self honesty in dealing with assumptions and ego. @Joseph Maynor I hear you on that! I went full circle (like 10 years lol) on the word God. It seemed like everyone I knew was using it out of ignorance, indoctrination and conjecture. I think your self honesty is priceless man. ??

@Joseph Maynor Judgement is the lazy mind’s way of perpetuating worry.

@Phillip Try to find the line which separates you and “God”.

@Slade equanimity.

@Moritz What a great attitude. Doing the ‘work’, open minded asking for insights. Awesome. I would just say keep going. It’s so worthwhile. Daily morning mediation (if you’re not yet) is powerful and blends so well with the shadow work and self inquiry. Exercise kicks it all up a notch too. Happy for you Moritz!