Nahm

@Ether I died, and I awakened.

@Saumaya Access of experience is relative to consciousness, that has never not been the case. What for someone is a known known, and another known unknown, for another is an unknown unknown. What someone is experiencing, communicated to another, is interpreted as impossible - so there is no sense in communicating the specifics, or examples. If there is no relative consciousness, then there is no way to communicate. You can look for it, discover it. Discrepancies and distinctions. This forum presents the opportunity to see this almost daily. With more consciousness, more perspective, more of what is there is seen. “Reality” is not the consistency it appears to be. It is relative to one’s consciousness, because it is literally, that same one. A couple suggestions, notice where individuals end in their conversations, see the patterns, contemplate why, and what would have been next had they not. Look at the justifications and rationality’s, they keep an individual’s consciousness in equanimity, sacrifices continuation of the expansion of their consciousness.

@Saumaya For starters, the rest of this life is left, and what it can be. Integration has not started yet. Embodiment has not started yet. This is because you have ruled them out, as assumptions, with thinking like, what more could there be after enlightenment. I understand, I was there.

@Saumaya There’s no separation between all and self, I’m using the word consciousness. Enlightenment is an entry point, not an ending. There is so much more. .

@Rilles There is a goofy, and very knowledgeable guy on YouTube I suggest. I think his name is Ken Tamlin, or Tamplin. Singing is all breathing. And emotion of course.

@Rilles Have you developed proper breathing, the three registers, etc?

@TheEnlightenedWon That’s what she said btw.

@Saumaya I’m being simple and clear. It is up to you, because all there is, is you. It is the simplest scenario possible, because it’s true.

@Ether I wonder how I every had a morning where I woke up and missed it. Puzzling. Now I know praying, on hands and knees, is a modernized action- a misinterpretation from an ancient reaction to this beauty. What was physically debilitating awe, has been reduced to wishes and asking.

@Ether everyday ❤️

@Saumaya up to you.

@Saumaya Yes. So do you understand that consciousness is access?

@Saumaya Do you know what I mean when I say you could tell someone what enlightenment is, and they can not understand you because they have not experienced it?

@Saumaya Of course enlightenment is permanent, “binary”, and then there is so much more. Until more consciousness is experienced, that binary change is of course referred to as “enlightenment”. Yes, the “seeking” is done. But the practices continue embodiment, depth of understanding continues embodiment, revealing, only by experience, that enlightenment was not the former binary experience, but rather embodying love itself. The change in awareness / identification - discovery one is all and eternal - this is a realization of what I was not, am not. It is not yet a realization of what I am. Samadhi is literal no thought, empty calm silent mind, this is the empty cup which fills with love - actuality. I think this would be clearer, forum wise, if there was a category of no-self actualization, followed by a category of self actualization. The Self is love, as is all other ‘things’.

@MarkusSweden Both is fine. When you are fully aware of the illusory situation of reality, it’s clear there is no purpose anywhere in the universe. This illusion is nothing more than something to do, because you’re eternal. Joy will inspire. Life goes quickly, it is better to contemplate joy in your experience, than purpose for others now, than in hindsight.

@Saumaya Look into dolphins man. They use language, and even refer to each other by name. Samadhi is worth looking into also, if you are looking to experience non thought / stillness of the mind.

How did you come to know that?

@Cammy Practices, get centered in the real you which is unchanging to conditions, days, etc. Eat clean, exercise, get clarity. Be willing to become aware of what you don’t want and what you do want, in relation to how you are spending your mon-fri. A change is coming for sure. Don’t judge or beat up on yourself, let your awareness lead.

@Charlotte Sure. Anytime.

@ticaaaa That is weird. I’d keep my options open.

@Saumaya I appreciate the reply. Thanks.

@Saumaya Can I ask, when you mentioned what you want to do in your life (go to college, get a job you prefer vs laborious, etc) and at the same time no will, no control, no discipline (“deceptions” I agree) ...does it seem like there is a paradox resolvable there? One which might be beneficial in resolving?

@Sahil Pandit Have you considered making a list of what you want / want to do, vs what to give up? I’ve found that subtle difference in the thought / perspective aligns inspiration that moves mountains.

@Emne Reality is tough, there’s a lot of challenges, and a lot of worry and stress. I need to get going and get more done and I don’t have the desire or energy to really do what I want to do. How could I know what I should do! This is so hard. Life is hard. My random start in life could have been better. I wish I had more money, and X, and more Y, and more Z. Some times things work out, sometimes they don’t, some days are better than others. I’ll die one day and that’s scary. I don’t even realize people manipulate me. Circumstances are unfair sometimes, often. Vs Holy shit I am the only being which exists, and I am the dreamer / creating an illusion that is “reality”. Everyone is also me / this being, and 99.9999999% of the population has no idea whatsoever about the truth of this situation. I get to live this life? Are you even serious!? This is the most amazing thing possible, better than I could have ever imagined! I don’t need anything to “be happy”, I am Love itself! Everything is Love! People are so manipulated and stressed, and in complete denial and self deception about it, and at the same time they are not even interested in discovering this for themselves. I could never die, I’m not even real or not real, I’m a completely different undefinable outside of reality and unimaginable thing that can’t even justifiably be called a “thing”. I am forever, and all is so freakin well it’s ridiculous. I wake up and cry every morning because the love and beauty is so overwhelming. At least once a day I am literally brought to my knees by the simplest thing revealing the infinite love and perfection of all that I am. I can do anything. I can’t believe I ever thought anything was happening to me - the WHOLE experience is for me! Just some spit ballin, might help. Obviously LP is easier in the second scenario.

@MiracleMan Ya I hear you man. This is a new thing in my life, I’m understanding more each day. I have experienced this, but I don’t think it’s anything I’m doing in a direct sense. I’m starting to think it’s about what I’m not doing, internally. It started around 6 months ago, when I went to see a psychic. We sat down, she was taking some deep breathes, and then she looked up at me very wide eyed and like incredibly sad and just started balling. Like snot hitting the table balling. Uncontrollably. For maybe 10 minutes. I just knew something, but there was no content to it. It was as if I was just supposed to be there, though before hand I thought I was going for me. When she started talking, she talked about how she had not ever realized that she had internalized the traumas of her childhood, feeling ashamed of herself. She said she felt like me when I walked in, felt like how it felt to be me, and that I don’t see shame in people, and it brought 30 some years of her self-shaming into her awareness immediately. It was really interesting and weird. The coolest part was that there were probably only 20 words said between us in around 30 minutes, and somehow I knew that I had known her forever. I’ve felt a kindred spirit thing with people before, but that was the first time I felt forever. I appreciate your conversation. It pulled this out of me in a clearer light. Thanks. To be honest, I didn’t do anything for her or with her, but this big thing just happened.