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@Anders901 How do the two resolve?

Awesome additions! Thanks guys! ♥️

@Jackthelad Best of luck to you! @DrewNows ?? Give it a try if you haven’t, I bet you’d love it.

@isabel ??

@korbes Thanks!

Ever contemplate the profundity of the obscurity of say, Jesus, or The Buddha? Almost as if the their message is so ‘close’, so clear, that it’s not even close, but nondual in actuality. Not one of us has a shred of evidence or proof they walked the earth, while at the same time, every One of us is the evidence.

@pluto That really says it all right there. ??

@TheAvatarState Ever notice when you look at a clock, it reminds you this is a dream?

@S-Max Awesome, and anytime. Maybe another time, we do some work on that atheism. ?

Experience nothing, and then experience music. It will be “made new”.

@S-Max Overall, in my opinion (which comes from complete ignorance about his situation)....this is not “the work of God”, but neither is it a “mental disorder”. (Exactly why it’s so difficult for you to help him with, I’m sure. Not to mention being in another country) It strikes me as right in the middle. I think he faced some fear in his life, and let some things go, and experienced well being (not God “directly” so to speak) but is having one heck of a deluded time making any sense of things, likely because something in his past is still held on to, and so his present experiences are all filtered / seen through the past experience - but he wouldn’t be aware of this if he hasn’t inspected it. Sounds like he is doing better (studying & working part time), and got his responsibilities back in order which is great to hear. Therapy is tricky in that light because it could help him greatly, but it could also set him back. If he is safely ‘on track’ and doing well, look to amplify what he is doing which is bringing about the ‘doing well’ - bring it to the forefront of his attention in hopes he realizes it more deeply, and feels good about taking care of himself, and is motivated / inspired / acknowledged, to keep doing so. This could also strengthen how he sees you. Ideally he sees you as in this with him, so he is comfortable expressing his thoughts and emotions deeper and deeper over time. I’m sure we’d agree the main point is him being on the trajectory of well being. If the rest of this post doesn’t seem helpful, just ignore it. Did he believe that ‘message’, about your grandmother, or did he ‘channel write’ it and find it interesting / surprising / odd - as in, he didn’t understand it himself - the hand just “wrote it”? Did you ask him logical questions about it, like, who or where did this “replacement grandmother” come from, where is she now? IF she replaced grandma, what happened to grandma? What did he say? That sounds like complete denial of her death imo, not spiritual / nondual awareness / the higher power - but it could be both also, with him in a state of confusion. Perhaps the notion of grandma being ‘replaced’ prior to dying is a rejection of her death deriving from an intense fear of death / loss. So did he, or someone he knew well almost die, or was hospitalized for a while but recovered? What is his history / experience with death? When he was young, did someone foundational to him pass unexpectedly, unfairly - like a parent, sibling, teacher, grandparent, friend, etc? Did he have a near death experience, or a severe life threatening disease, or anything like that? You said he’s 35. How old are you? Does he have more siblings, hold old are they? Why did he move to another country 10 years ago? With “believer” parents, what led to him becoming a “very dogmatically religious person”? That’s pretty rare, so it’s potentially a big clue/ insight into his perspective. Talking to himself out loud, or he tells you he talks to God in his head? What is the outcome of this? Anything other than ‘doing the good deeds’ and walking around? Any signs of hurting himself, or others? (I’d be concerned to, just looking for more info and a deeper understanding of the relativity) You mentioned he went through some ‘tough times’. What were they specifically? Highly likely more understanding of his perspective will be found here. You mentioned he refuses to see a therapist and considers it an insult to the ‘higher power’. I’d consider presenting the therapy to him as not something opposing his experience, but rather talking to someone who can help him on his calling, someone who can help him bring even more clarity to his newly found purpose in terms of continuing to meet his own personal responsibilities, while gaining a clearer vision of who to help and how to do it - versus walking for miles, etc. The perspective that he is wasting a lot of time doing such things which would be better spent helping people might appeal to him. You might also connect more with him expressing God wants the best for all of us, and therapy can be a good way to get a better understanding of our own psychology - which is itself God’s creation. It sounds like the “channeling-writing”, and higher power connection developed slowly over time. Do you recall your brother having an unmistakable life changing specific event (awakening)?

@S-Max Other-than-a-mystical experience is a belief you’re holding. It’s like asking me to tell you where to find hay in a haystack. What are your concerns for your brother’s well being, in order of immediacy? Can you share maybe 3 or so? Not “he might go crazy one day”. I’m asking what are you seeing with him now, specifically, which is concerning. (An example might be if someone has not eaten for 3 days because “God told them not to eat”, the concern is malnutrition / starvation.)

@S-Max I don’t know the first thing about the whole thing. But if you have specific questions about it I might be useful.

@S-Max Whatcha gonna do with my understanding? (Apparently disregard it) Your understanding is what could be more helpful to your brother - ahhh - but for that, you’d have to do a lot of work. I hear you. But you might consider, did you think the answer would be in the already known wheelhouse from which arose the question? Such is the same for you and the path. “I would be jumping up and down if someone can for sure tell me this is God” That’s all anything and anyone has ever told you. You’re not listening to anyone or anything.

@Jed Vassallo Nice. Also, allegedly, before it was the son dying and coming back three days later, it was the sun slipping out of sight for 3 days in the winter solace...both of which serve only to shake our perspective and point us to nonduality. @Nagma And now you do too.....oh...wait....now I do too. ? @Belay kelemework Whatcha think of this one... “I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth.” and this one... ”I’m a man without convictions, I’m a man who doesn’t know how to sell a contradiction - you come and go, you come and go.” They pair well imo, in terms of Beauty.

@Jed Vassallo Nice. Also, before it was the son dying and coming back three days later, it was the sun slipping out of sight for 3 days in the winter solace...both of which serve only to point us to nonduality. @Nagma And now you do too.....oh...wait....now I do too. ?

Nice. ...one further back too...Bodhidharma came from the Western Religions. What a world. @winterknight ?

@Sri McDonald Trump MaharajWishing you well my man. Definitely go to the hospital. Start therapy - express what happened, and how you felt - that is the way to let it go. Call the suicide prevention hotline today, don’t wait until you’re in a stressful state. Lean on their expertise now, be free - allow new perspectives to arise when talking with them...( Get help now in any country ) You can express here too, anonymously, and feel free to PM me any time. I would also skype / FaceTime with you anytime you want. Ive been there, I ‘made it out’, so I wanna help. I was dealt a raw deal too - I stuck it out. In hindsight, it was a gift. My advice is stick around for the hindsight, for the ‘turning it into wine’. I promise you will see if you don’t give up. ♥️♥️♥️♥️

Yes it does. You are yet to realize how quantum mechanics reconciles with physics.

@Tony 845 That is a highly complicated non answer. Your cleverness is impressive.

@Rilles ??♥️

@Tony 845 What about for you? If you had to pick, would you feel good about yourself, or help yourself?

The proof is of course in the pudding, but you haven’t shared any of what your brother has written. So the post is not actually about what’s going on with him, but rather, it’s about you pigeonholing, labeling, summarizing him as a person - though I understand you think it is, and I understand your concerns for him, and hope he is steadily on the path. Are you attached to that perspective, or are you open minded - open to looking at any perspective? Can you look at the perspective, that you are actually the one who is dogmatic and atheism is a basic defensive mechanism....you are biased for lack of self inquiry....you are deluded ( = atheism).....and in actuality you are “having” a mystical experience right now - but because of the things stated previously here, you aren’t aware of it? Sounds like he did some shadow work and is doing much ‘better’ for having done it. What about you, would be the spiritual mindset. What do you really want of your brother? Not for him - what is it you are after for you? If you could snap your fingers, what would he do / be? Then look at your beliefs regarding that, and look at how those beliefs are playing out in your life. As an Atheist, you have barely begun to actually look into this for yourself. Atheism is indeed a very strong belief system. Just imagine for a minute, how many beliefs God must hold to honestly believe there is no God. You might want to get started on meditation and self inquiry. That, will answer every question you could ever have about your brother, God, or anyone or anything else for that matter.

“It” isn’t of this world, like ‘peak of pleasure’, etc. “It” is prior to pleasure, and also transcendent of it, while it is also every pleasure in and of itself. From one vantage those pleasures are experienced by you, from another vantage, you and those pleasures are taking place, and not taking place, within you. It’s like asking about the experience of one grain of sand, then discovering you are the entire beach. The ego acting upon Frued’s Model via defensive mechanisms is present in your thread. The very thing the model intends to point out, is being done upon the model. Do you see it?