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@Shaun Cool. ??

@Key Elements He pointed to your thinking, you said it’s your experience......?

@Shaun Can you let it in? I can ‘send’. Willing to open, to see ?

Perspective is such power. Love.......Shit.. Forget about it. ? ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ? “Orange is young and full of daring - but very unsteady for the first go round”.

@Highest ???????♥️ ?

@Highest ?? (???♥️)

It is easy to underestimate our own devil. It’s intolerable to questions like, “Did you experience being a guy who had his head cut off?”...no. You are experiencing a thought about a guy having his head cut off. Why are you confusing the two? It’s actually so you can pretend, so you can suffer. I am not telling you to stop.

Same thing. First one you’re aware is on you. Second one, you’re blaming God, unaware it’s the perspective you’re choosing.

Sounds like you ‘get’ something, but don’t want to share it because it’s very personal, so you express it using art. If that’s what you’re saying, I get that. I just can’t ‘get’ references to your actual experience as a communication, without any communication of details about it. That’s fine though. It’s intriguingly lovely I suppose.

@Key Elements Sorry, I am confused, and assuming I just am missing something. Are you saying don’t pursue self actualization, suggested practices, psychedelics, etc, (“methods”), but rather just live your life purpose and enjoy the unfolding of the realization organically? Are you asking what good would it be to realize you’re infinity, as in what impact that has on the rest of this life, including life purpose? (And that it would sometimes be realized but missed, but found through thinking?)

Watch out for that stuff. Our suffering is self imposed. MAybe contemplate beginnings & endings.

@moon777light At a point I had to switch to first thing in the morning. It reduced overthinking and increased mindfulness. Started really slowing down and enjoying the days.

@Truth Addict ♥️

@Ampresus Thanks, no need to apologize. It’s just how the adventure begins. Take a week off. Give yourself a break. Ultimately what’s needed is to be aware of what is triggering you so you can understand what ‘being triggered’ really is, then and respond / create instead of reaction from impulse. Meditate & self inquire. If you get overwhelmed, write and or draw about how you’re feeling on a piece of paper. Write the story of it. See when it started, who’s involved, what were their roles. Were veiled in ignorance? What will they learn which will set them free? What can you forgive them for, what can they forgive you for? Is it true you can still see love for them? Is it true you can see they were driven by love?Then burn it. “Journaling” (my bad, sorry) is something different. This is so you know what to do when meditation and or self inquiry are overwhelming. Observe thoughts, sensations, and perspectives - all the time. Observe, learn, understand, enjoy it.

@fridjonk For sure. False identity is like a time machine.

@Truth Addict It seems to me you went through some stuff, and are taking a well deserved, much needed rest. If & when you’re ready, keep going in everything. Don’t sweat not having the insights and ‘ah ha’ moments for now, those are on the path. When you get back on, trade all your intellectualism’s for actuality, and materialism for self realization. Or don’t. It really is fine either way. Truth does set you free though. And the gym is great for energy.

@How to be wise And realized that, had you not been so “right”, you could’ve had that realization much sooner on in the path? (This is intentially aimed at triggering the ego)

@Truth Addict It’s not easy to get to the honesty of ‘I don’t know’. That’s a good (but hard I know) place to be. With respect to the ‘numb’ ... Are sensations arising which are being avoided? Are there any particular thought patterns which are giving you trouble / or appear to trigger sensations? Who can you forgive, for you? (To let them go) What habits would you stop / start? Have you experienced the space between thoughts in meditation? How has self inquiry gone? Have you used pen & paper to express thought patterns & sensations that arise in self inquiry? What is one thing you can let go of from the past? What is one thing you want in life, in the future? Why do you want it? In what ways can you love yourself more?

@kieranperez Happy to hear! ??

Doing this in the mirror for a day ?

@Monkey-man You have over 600 posts. How are you seeing this as if for the first time? Selfless love is unconditional, selfless. The more separate self centered one is, the more delusional, the more suffering. Love is only experienced at the thinking level, as a thought. The “separate self” was created in avoidance of bodily sensations, emotions. So now there’s fear, of sensations. But just below the sensations is peace and Love. Slow down, notice the sensations telling you that you’re going off track with your perspective. Take your focus back. Inspect within. It’s very worthwhile. Drop the armor, get down to only your most essential intimate nature, and then let us know.

@Elisabeth Aw. You’re breakin my heart. It sure sounds like you got a whole bunch going on at once. I don’t thin you should be in “solve it” mode. I think you should be in breathing deeply & letting it go mode. Do that for a while, maybe for the night. Everything is fine Elisabeth. The problems you describe, while they might legit suck ass - they are first world problems. You are ok, and your future is going to be great. I’ve seen you, you’re smart, emotionally tuned in, and younger & smarter than me. You’re doing well. I think stuff piled up, and now it’s kinda blowing up. It will pass. I think, tomorrow, you should do some work. What strikes me as the issue to take a look at is two fold: You are young, and you still see yourself through the opinions and values, of other people. If you are 20-25, and finding it’s blows, that is a huge part of why it blows. It’s like you’ve had enough of it, but you don’t yet have clarity on it. The good news, seriously - is that you are causing your suffering. That might sound like I don’t care, but I can assure you I am saying that because I very much do care. Someone has to tell you this, and I’m out of throwing range. Seeing yourself through the opinions, judgements, values, morals, etc - of other people....is never ever going to feel good. You think God made you so you could try to live up to something, for someone else? Ah fuck now Elisabeth. God make perfection. Period. You are good to go, as you are. You are 100% entitled to happiness. You are taking the happiness away from yourself. You got to let this weight you’re putting on yourself, on behalf of other people, go. You can’t do that. Tomorrow... Write down how you see these subjects / issues. Then write down how your parents see it. There is truth in your perspective, and there is truth in there perspective. When you chill, relax, and take some time to see a little of both perspectives, then you have clarity on where each is coming from. It’s just love. I don’t care what it looks like. You’re coming from love, and they’re coming from love. You don’t need to be accepted by anyone. That is a clever tricky way to not accept yourself. Try to think about it simply. If you have five dollars, do you need five dollars? If you have a motorcycle, do you need a motorcycle? If you accept yourself, as you are, all the perfect imperfection - then would you feel this need for anyone else to accept you? No. You know you woudn’t. So, you don’t. What is it exactly, that you are afraid of? Then, pretend that actually happens. What would be different?

Don’t adopt a belief system. That’s an easy “no” (imo). Learning about a variety of religions, maybe, but I don’t suggest it. “Stop thinking about it” isn’t really something you can “do”. I mean, it’s possible, maybe, but it doesn’t seem like anyone can “stop thinking” about anything. It’s like saying I’ll stop thinking about topless dancers and tall frosty beers. (See?) lol You’re thinking about it now. (You probably already were though) I hear you on the beliefs. Believing in yourself, getting through difficult times, rising about adversity - I’m all for that. Beliefs about reality though...they’ll just need to be let go of ultimately, so adding them only adds to the ‘worklist’. You know that already though. What is it that you really, really want? In the simplest of words....?

@Truth Addict So then the question is, what to do? Right? What have you tried so far?