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@Anton_Pierre Because there is no I relative to supposed, nor a thing which could be a catalyst for supposing. What difference would yes have made? ?. You know this.

@Soul-lover 2020 I think Leo’s spiral dynamics videos, specifically blue & orange, would be of tremendous benefit to you.

@Anton_Pierre Of course not. @zeroISinfinity Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sneaky!

@Meditationdude Have you realized there is no screen, no video, no Leo...that is you..?

No. You are avoiding sensations, and that is the suffering. Suffering is not happening to you, you are creating it, in each moment you continue to avoid. After the moaning, the screaming, the squirming passes.....then what would happen?

? Write “well being” on a piece of paper, and lay it on the table. Look at the paper, read it. Notice the idea of well being. Then remove the piece of paper, see the table. See it.

@Anton_Pierre Excellent call. ??

You’ve ignored my question by deflecting. I am not asking about what you have read nor what you believe. I am asking you if you have yet learned to see that there is a distinction between Truth, and a belief. I take your answer as a resounding, no. I am asking you, and you are talking about books, quotes, courts, etc (Deflection)

@Shaun But I am asking you something very specific which you are not answering. What would happen ?

@Shaun But still...if you still just continued to sit comfortably, and embraced whatever sensations arise. Moan and scream if you like. But what if you continued to embrace the sensations? What would happen?

What would happen if you embraced all of your sensations? If you didn’t avoid the sensation of fear? Literally, if you sat down and allowed yourself to be aware of all sensations, what would literally happen next?

If you know it is “the screen of awareness” - then what are you afraid of? Perhaps that is a belief you could let go of? You said your fear is due to ‘not knowing what existence is’ - are you saying you are nonexistence? That existence is something other than you? Sleep wise - yes...only in a dream is there the experience of fear. What does this reveal to you though, the minute you wake up in the morning?

What is different while you’re sleeping, and therefore there is no suffering while sleeping? Are you aware of fear? Are you aware of fear while you are sleeping?

@Shaun So what’s to be done to realize the awareness, and end the suffering? How is it the suffering is perpetuated?

@Shaun Which one is suffering?

@Shaun Can you take a minute here, and describe each of the two of you?

@Soul-lover 2020 What is the difference between a belief, and the truth?

@Shaun Look at that I you keep referring to. Are you two?

@Soul-lover 2020 Please take a minute to review the forum guidelines regarding religion & dogma, etc. Thanks. https://www.actualized.org/forum/guidelines/

It’s certainly not theoretical.

@Soul-lover 2020 No word is true. You’re missing what his words point to, by projecting. You’ll see, in the apocalypse.

@sausagehead If you see a coffee table, a coffee table is not self aware. A -coffee table-, is a thought. Two words, their meanings, together, just a thought. Take away your words - coffee table - and now look at it. Ask “what is that ?” Take your words “my awareness” and throw them out too. Now look at it and again ask “what is that!?” Then take aware the word “that”, and be present with the coffee table. Make all of your being vulnerable and exposed to it. Sense that there is a very deep and ineffable connection present.

@GroovyGuru Address the fear regardless of the trip. Write down what happens, how it feels, etc on paper. Retrace it. Solve it like a mystery. A few ways to begin seeing how it is you can change your state of mind... Write down a statement about your current state ...”I’m experiencing fear about taking psychedelics”....and identify as best you can, the sensation...”anxiety / rushy”. Then write down a sensation you’d like to be experiencing....”joy”. Then rewrite the first statement how you would see it if you were feeling joy. (Peace...love...) You can also zoom out, think about how it’s one thing, on one day. Life is much bigger. It will come and go like anything else. Just be present for all the experiences, some will be great, some difficult. When you’re old & grey, I bet you’ll be glad if you embraced the entirety of experiences in your life. A shroom trip might last a few hours, but it’s just a few hours. Not that big of a deal. That can help calm the nerves. After relaxing, choose the approach to “zoom in” next with. First say to your self lightly, I’m choosing confidence and desire for new experiences here, and then “zoom in” and have a look. Also, a quick “shaking the energy out”, like a wet dog sort of, and seeing you got caught up again, and it’s also silly. Use whatever resources are available too. Music, book marked pages that resonated, going for a walk, etc. Let it go completely...then approach a preferred vision. Almost any brisk body movements, even facial expressions can help change your state as well.

@Serotoninluv lol. Maybe buy a guitar, and learn the chords to play your favorite song...learn some singing basics. ? I’d go Adam Sandler mindlessness is what I’m sayin. Sero-sized well being & fun. You’ve been on some hell-a-deep-retreats. I’m bankin on the other side of that coin. Bashar would call it a ‘permission slip to live freely’. I’m kind of placing a bet I guess, that it’s the right ‘key’ for certain insights. The catch is you wouldn’t know if you’ll ‘lose what you have so far’ in Sandlerville.

@Serotoninluv I’d get up early, exercise, meditate, get a massage, reiki, and then do whatever the hell I felt like for the rest of the days. Seriously. That’s the approach I’m suggesting.