Nahm

It could be the case that the actuality is awareness of thought & perception, from which a perceiver, a thing perceived, and therefore a perspective, are derived, but are never an actuality. But that would reveal there is no perspective, and no thing becoming, but rather the appearance of becoming, and the opportunity for recognition of what never becomes.

@Inliytened1 Thanks. Is it possible, there is awareness, aware of thoughts which convincingly imply a duality of awareness, a separate or “small self” and “big self” duality? That the thoughts about, don’t constitute a second or dual awareness in actuality, but rather the thoughts are the very same consciousness, convincing in appearance. This may be a subtle discard of “Mind” (conceptual) in realization of knowing being (non conceptual / nothing to know / actuality of no mind). Sounds like you’re saying matter or form, is a product of Mind, an actual separation; a deviation from recognition of self in and as appearance / consciousness inherently. If the formless is the collapse of all form, that implies formless needs form, and needs all form to collapse, for formlessness. Seems the other way, so to speak. The “form” being only the formless, in actuality, and the collapse being a thought - an appearance of none other than the very same formless, an implication of form, rather than a second awareness, or actual form which actually collapses. Formless needing nothing, not even knowing “needing”, but knowing thoughts, perceptions, and sensations, in actuality, as self (the same awareness, aware of). This seems like a subtle backing, a variation on the “God needs humans to know God” philosophy. If that is the actuality, then you would not actually know what I am, sans awareness of thoughts about me, perceptions of me, and sensations “in reaction to” me, with never an actuality that me present.

(Op) That one can not give a reason in forgetting, and that there is no such thing as knowing. Miraculous.

@seeking_brilliance Perhaps through understanding our own sensations, we are divinely unified in the languagelessness of intrinsic truth & love, and less “language” becomes more. Maybe this is well underway, and your synchronicity is the altruistic evidence. Maybe the task and usefulness of language is in articulate depiction of untruth.

Could you explain further, or share your experience of, “dual awareness”? Also, experientially, how is form separate from formless, or “pure Being”?

The fear of dying requires misidentification with the appearance of physicality, or simply put, the self imposed dogma of “separatism”. Misidentification as physicality is ‘achieved’ by self referential thought repetitions. These unchecked thought repetitions maintain the charade of a separate self, just like individual frames of a film ‘hide’ within themselves, within their own repetition, creating the illusion of movement. In inspecting the film, the ‘frames’ are realized, and so too is the illusion of movement. In inspecting the beliefs, thought repetitions are realized, and so too is the illusion of the separate self. The purification, the shedding of the falsities, the “glass prison of repetition” - when it gets down to the basis of identification, the “projector itself”, if you will - is experienced a priori, as pending death. The sensation is not in actuality that of dying whatsoever, but rather the Truth response to the thoughts & beliefs that you could ever actually die. More simply, when you experience the sensation, and assign the thought story “I am dying”, the sensation is You, Truth, prior to the duality of language, yet saying “awe hell no you don’t die you silly liberated monkey! Relax, enjoy, live, create, love, be! ALL is Well! I AM!” So you felt like you were dying, because “you” were dying. The concept of you is running it’s course, coming to it’s natural end. If “you” keep sitting there, you’ll realize even the very last of unchecked repetitions, those of the body itself, are a facade. In essence, there are no repetitions at all. All you convincing yourself of selfhood, individuality, life, and death. A joke of unfathomable cosmic proportion, which was, in hindsight, on “you”. Just as a brilliantly executed setup draws one in, involves one emotionally, invests one in the story & perspective - only to be relieved in the laughter of the sudden shift to the Truth, to the clarity, of the punchline. In terms of continuing, if you do long sits, be free in breaking when you are overwhelmed. Do not force through. There is no need. The gain is not in pain, but in clarity, in understanding, in acceptance & transcendence. It’s wise to be a lover and pursuer of Truth, but far, far wiser to simply love. So instead, break, and sit with a pen & paper and write only about the sensations, so that you may express lovingly, safely, organically, thus genuinely emptying your “self” out, so that understanding / emotional intelligence, may readily unify, in transcendence of the paradigm of physicality & separatism. This is awakening, the knowing of your true yourself more deeply, prior to the believer, the chooser, the doer - realizing the potentiality & creator actuality of self. The punchline of the beating heart, in and of the breath itself, could not be more investing, nor more relieving in Truth. Then, how joyful & funny it is, you will see, as “8 hours” passes through you effortlessly, like all things.

Huge breakthrough, congrats. ??

@Epiphany_Inspired Nice! Two sides of a coin perhaps. Who’d ever guess it’d already been flipped once? ?

@Iksander What is your direct experience with problems/failures, loss, confrontation, and death? Take a look at these things you fear, and you will find they are thoughts. Keep investigating, and you will find the one who fears is also a thought. You have nothing to fear, you have always been perfectly safe, you have literally never moved. Thoughts can be very convincing to the contrary. Thoughts which you are aware of. Thoughts which came and went. Thoughts which come and go now. Notice, you do not come & go, you are always present, here, now. If you are determined, simply meditate twice a day for 30 minutes. Return your focus to breathing from your stomach, over and over. If the emotional attachment to thoughts overwhelms, sit and write about the sensations in detail. Do not write about your self, past, future, or another person. Only write about the sensations, the feelings. The critical key, is not writing about self, past, future. In doing this practice, you will realize how you go into thought stories of a separate self, using self, past, future - simply by not doing it. The perspective of fear you’re experiencing arises only in the experiential separation between your mind and heart, beliefs and awareness of beliefs as beliefs. The experience of fear requires that you first invent, in thoughts, a false, separate, temporary, self. A self which comes and goes, is born and dies. So in this practice, because you will not entertain the separate self any longer with such thought stories, what you currently believe yourself to be - will dissolve. Awareness alone is curative. Nothing is hidden. Godspeed ♥️

@Aakash You’ve weaved a story that won’t hold up to an hour of meditation every day. That’s all, so no worries. Most of us ‘Jim Carey’ at first. It is insanely radical.

@karkaore Indeed! ??♥️

@Paulus Amadeus Oh yes, good point.

Love you too! Great “work”! ♥️

@Shaun Your feelings tell you your perspective is not true. What can we tell you which you will hear, when you ignore yourself? Words can’t speak louder than your heart, louder than your being. Utilize therapy, practices, and educate yourself. There’s nothing spiritual about what you’re going through, it’s psychological. Rather than conceptualizing to the next untruth, discover the barriers you’re already holding. The psych med already showed you how much weight you’re carrying. Just listen.

@AlphaAbundance There is no such thing as a true thought. You are the Truth, The Awareness, of thoughts. Look back, why did you stop meditating?

@Aakash Come on home.

@Leonid Notice what changes, and what does not.

@Mikael89 Each is the one however it appears. It’s always up to you.

@theking00 This is the healing already under way.

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@Aakash Yes, you can experience an alien, ‘sober’, without mind, just beyond radical open mindedness, among other “previously impossible real” things. I hear what you’re saying there. I see it too. I like “community”. It is Radical indeed.

@cetus56 ? Awesome. That’s some Tesla Back To The Future action right there.

@Rilles ? In the most generalizing of terms....a kid experiences conditional love from a parent, but when that kid becomes a parent, there is an entire Love sized paradigm flip, in which the the parent is seen to be very different. The unconditional Love, when met with the world, is protected, directed, cherished, resented, etc. All this is revealed. Love reveals itself as the source of emotion, psychology, analytical thinking, etc. The parent was only ever dealing with the fact that they are unconditional Love, wether they realized this cognitively, spiritually, or not. Kids make for the best Gurus. Theories, practices, trips...pppssshhhh. They simply do not fuck around. They don’t allow time to remember a theory, to ‘center one’s self’, to ground. LMAO. The little ones are in the raw right here right now and you will meet in love, or you will realize “you” are the filter. Very eye opening how we make up such filters.

@Anton_Pierre ??

@Rilles You might consider, conditional love is not actually a conditional love, but rather Love “+” thought(s), and the thought(s) is, in actually, ‘made of’ Love. Like a chair is ‘made of’ Love, and it’s nice that there is the experience of sitting. It is nice that Love appears conditional, there is appearance of experience in this way. Could Truth be separated from love? Could Love be separated from Creation? Is there somewhere, some how, which Magic is not? Only in the most amazing beautiful delicious impossibility of the veil of a single thought. The imperfection could not be any more perfect. Any limitation of love is on ‘the limiter’. Love is always in the eye of the beholder, Love. The thought ‘they would leave me if I acted nuts’, is a thought which veils the Love, Love veiling it’self so to speak, a condition via imposing a condition which implicates another, and mentally assigns the condition to the other. But the key is there is no assertion, no condition was actually imposed. A thought is simply another thought, made of Love.