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“Why” quiet the mind is something you’ll only know from the experience of it. Every reason you are given, is just another thought to you.

@StephenK Maybe you’re thinking people are interested in doing the inner work which you are doing?

@Avi Tal Yes, you should decide this, as in what to do with this life. Dream up the biggest vision for yourself you can, of what you really actually want. Take action towards your dream everyday. Also meditate every morning, letting all of it go, every thought. Zoom in, focus intensely, and zoom out, relax profoundly. Though a logical answer may never satisfy such a question, the unattached, yet unabashed living of life just might.

@theking00 Meditating daily? Journaling?

@Mikael89 Not disagreeing with you, but ‘striving’ here really amounts to chilling in a recliner while reality reveals itself to you.

@Jack River Hi! Thanks.

@Aakash I meant how do you know awareness is dualistically imaginary? It sounds like you are saying awareness is a product of a human, which could be kept or given up. Also, I don’t know what you are saying by ‘I won’t walk the talk’.

@winterknight DId you awaken, and then try psychedelics, or did you try them prior to awakening? I know it’s a dualistic hindsight inquiry, but I hope you can be bothered to answer. ? ?

@Aakash How do you know?

Not sure I understand that question, but, I am aware I’m not in a dream, that I am the dreamer / dream / dreaming. The whole “thing”, the reality, appearing as reality/dream. Decisions & their repercussions are also dream. I’m aware of the thoughts...person, human, dream, choices, decisions, etc...and aware the thoughts are dream, and the actuality is ineffable, but the word dream is communicable, in the dream, where communication “happens”.

The answer to your question about a concept, is another concept. There is no such thing as a human mind. That is another concept. @Anton_Pierre ‘s advice is as good as it gets. It is magic, and yes it is central to you. You are the magic. The only thing you can not do, is not be you. You can imagine like a mofo though. And now you have one more concept. @How to be wise Has (it seems) freshly ‘cracked the riddle’. In terms of advice on what to do (not what to conceptualize) he’s likely your best bet today.

There is no human consciousness in no mind. There is no human consciousness at all.

@zeroISinfinity No worries. Just a kid blowing bubbles.

Happy to hear Shin! Love you.

@zeroISinfinity

@andyjohnsonman Added some edits btw. You are right, there is no substitute for direct experience of experience less ness.

@zeroISinfinity The illusion is that it’s not you. There is no illusion, it’s you.

@andyjohnsonman Consciousness isn’t prior to anything because all there is, is consciousness. There is no material world. There is a thought, “material world”. That thought, is itself, consciousness. Consciousness can not expand, as it is not limited, and there is no second ‘space’ which it could expand into. You do not have an individual consciousness. The brain does not produce thoughts. The body does not produce awareness. Consciousness forgets, fools, dream, imagines itself, to be other than as it is...aka “experience”. Trust, is a thought, about there being a second thing or entity. There isn’t. Trust, is a thought. Linguistically, experientially, trust is logical and helpful, but ultimately speaking, it is not logical, nor helpful. If there is anything you are inclined to trust for, you have already reduced yourself with an idea that you are not already enough, regardless of apparent circumstances or apparent shortcomings. There are not, most literally speaking, “higher consciousness states”. This is only in communication, in language. Consciousness does not change, it appears to. The unseen, unchanging, awareness of all that changes is consciousness, and the actuality of all that appears to change, is that it too is the very same consciousness. There is not a separate, individual, “you” which experiences altered states. “Altered”, “higher”, these are linguistic, relative terms and ideas. Were it not for the the true self, you, unchanging - apparent change could not be experience. But, there is experience. A “clearer understanding of reality”, is literally, actually, recognizing yourself. The apparent means, avenues, forms, versions of this (whatever word you prefer)... is recognition, knowing of, yourself. The experience, while “forgetting” yourself, is interpreted as, understanding. Direct experience reveals no experience. You, but no experience. Then indirect experience, right? It’s the exact same, but in not recognizing, in forgetting, the appearance of you, is mentally mistaken as not you, and so seems, indirect. To pick a focal point which I think could be the fulcrum of the perspective of your questions, the deconstruction of it being in the contemplation of it... Consciousness does not create a second being. It becomes a ball of light. There is nothing in this ball, it is consciousness. You could say, “at the center of this ball” is “pure consciousness”, Nothingness / Awareness (actually the exact very same consciousness). From “inside the ball”, nothingness does not recognize itself, as being the light, which is appearing as -other-than-nothingness. The experience, is, consciousness fools itself into forgetting itself, not realizing it is still nothingness, distinguishing, making distinctions, projecting them onto the light. To not be aware of self, self must assume there is more appearance, more “world happening” on the other side of a wall, which is itself only an appearance. In truth, you never moved, you have never done anything. You make it look like you are, and believe it. Nothing is happening. The only thing you can not actually do, is not be you. Every detail and facet which makes it appear you are a person, can not be “trusted”, with one exception. Sensations. The sensations are in accordance with, always relaying the truth - that you are not a person. It’d be helpful, now that I think about it, to refer to them as Sensational Guidance. That is truly what they are.

@Angelite If you don’t mind me asking, did you have a religious up bringing?

All bananas are now clones of real bananas, and animals eat them by opening the opposite end.

Looks like your ring finger is a little standoffish, your pinky is feeling left out and bout ready to leave, your thumb is noticing all this transpiring, your index finger is uncomfortable with what’s going on, and your middle finger is just staying out of it altogether.

@LoveandPurpose If you took away everything people created with regards to hell, books, movies, special effects, stories,etc, etc, and took away ever having chose to view or hear it...what would you actually have remaining right now, with regards to ‘hell’?

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Realize that’s all there is.

If you forgot something on purpose you wouldn’t even know. You don’t have to derive anything to know you are you. You can create right now. Or not.