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@Key Elements lol. Don’t winter knight me too! ?

Pretty much. Imo, it can be helpful having an overview. Takes the sting out of it. Pick anything is the room....and say, “I am aware of the lamp”. Then, ask yourself, “is the lamp, within my awareness?” It must be within your awareness, if you can state you are aware of it. The “aware Of it “ is linguistic, it’s how we phrase to communicate. Notice that isn’t very actual or accurate. When you say “I am aware of the lamp” - break it down... I - This is actually a reference to yourself, which can’t be true. I can’t be aware of my self - because, I’m the awareness, of the thought....”I am aware of my self”. Write this phrase on your pad of paper... “ I am aware of my self” - then take a few deep breaths and relax, and ask - which one am I? The I which is aware - or the self? Sounds good to me! Even...more so... write the phrase on your pad of paper...” If there is not other it’s just God’s love”....take a lot of slow deep breaths and reeaalllyyy relax....and ask...which one am I then? (A hint - you are you bro. So you can’t be an other) ??♥️

Well maybe keep listening to the album, and see what you’re missing. You could also google things like Dave Matthews+charities, Farm Aid, Artists for a new South Africa, the Bama works fund, the green music group, habitat for humanity, kids wish network, live earth, MusiCares, the rape foundation, special Olympics, stand up to cancer...etc. Or just flat out tell us ‘what to do with awakening and how to apply it to life’.

Though thoughts about wanted will surely arise, it’s not about thinking. It’s about wanting, which is sensational. In large part, fear relates to self honesty and self expression. One way to go, is to surrender all attachments. Near impossible, if where you are is deep in the fear. Any other way to go, is to choose thoughts which feel good to you, and are aligned with what you write on your dream board that you wanted, and enjoy life & the synchronic, inexplicable unfolding of your dream. “I never was a kid with dreams” I’m 44 years old. I have businesses, houses, a wife, and three kids. That’s the cover story though, really. In Truth, I am just a kid with dreams.

“all I'm saying is, if you want to talk about awakening to enlightenment, there has to be strong communication between two ppl. It's not about dismissing and criticisms.” I agree that is not a ‘strong communication between two people’, but, what part is the dismissing? What part is the criticism?

@Key Elements ?♥️?? It is a great album. You might find correlation with the ox pics.

@Key Elements The whole album is fantastic in my opinion. I think you’ll love it. Listen to it a few times and read the lyrics very carefully. Let me know when you’re done, and I’ll ask you about it to establish your degree of enlightenment.

@Key Elements In the same sense you asked WK about his understanding of the Ox pics, I am asking you if you are understanding of the album ‘Before these crowded streets’. That’s all I’m asking. I don’t mean anything.

You are understanding of the album, ‘Before These Crowded Streets’, yes?

@Inliytened1 If you feel like it, maybe paste the quotes where he did this...

Was he? Do you find Ralston to be doing the same?

This is a lie.

@Inliytened1 Was he?

Paranoia is of course, a write off. A slightly meta defense (cognitive & sensational). But how am I ‘writing it off’, and why... The misunderstanding derived, “like I’m kinda a robot” is like a Monday morning coach who’s recap is gravely tarnished with the forgetting of the actuality; the flow, the zone, the magic, of the actual playing of the game. Rarely does any spirited heart-strong player agree with anything Monday’s coach proclaims. Your 1 - 6 points are the inner / outer world wrestling, the back & forth between two paradigms, with an implication of a third. If this were a video of a wrestling match, you’d see the idea of I wrestling the actuality of consciousness. The primary delusion of the materialist paradigm is that the body produces consciousness. ➡️ You are here. The primary delusion of the relative paradigm is that we are conscious. The primary delusion of the meta paradigm is that Mind is and or produces consciousness. The primary delusion of the absolute paradigm is that there is a God, and that there is consciousness. Initially, the move from materialist to relativist invokes the examination of; the material world, and more intimately, our relatives & relationships. The actuality of reality & the perception of it derived from our perspectives developed via our relationships is clashing, and this is a very good thing, a good place to be on the path. Obviously, you’ve been taking the consciousness work seriously and are ‘gaining’ some ground. Initially, in the material to relative ‘move’, the meta peeks through in a sense, but is like static between radio stations, confusion between harmonies. Like a low D and a middle C - something just feels out of tune here... until later, when the low D is realized to have been a low C all along, and as such is completely harmonized with the middle C. One can not ‘tune the dial up’ the emotional scale, while keeping the dial where it already is. One can not solve a problem with the same consciousness which created it. One can not realize the actuality of the middle C also being the low C, while listening to the low D. So one must let go of the old paradigm. One must let go of their existing hold, their perception, of reality. How else can the manifestation of all that you are wanting arrive? There are not two realities. There is one. So all will arrive, here, now, where you already are. The body is not conscious, the mind is not producing consciousness. Every cell in the body, is consciousness, and as such employs “it’s very own consciousness”, to the same degree “you” do, or rather, have been believing “you” do. Though of course, the resolution is in the understanding there are, in actuality, no such separations of consciousness. It only appears so. So revisit this... Old paradigm is being revealed by the light of the consciousness of the new paradigm. New paradigm vision / higher understanding is “somehow I Connect with all the parts that made me”...”I connected with the part that was hurt and sad”...”dissolved into that and accepted it”...”some kind of healing” (indeed!)....”started seeing how personality is made out of patterns”...(again, very revealing of the solid work you’ve been doing ??)...”sad, interesting, non interesting, are made of patterns...and I was conscious in a way I was doing all of this”...all new paradigm perspective. Then...old paradigm, upon being spotted, realized, feels “called out” - and the sneaky sneaky sob that it is - defenders itself, and launches the attempt the hijack: ”Every movement that I made was in a way, already decided. (Just got hijacked) Every reaction...” (yes - every reaction) - Again, yes, this is something one must become aware of - but do you see the hijack happens right here...(technically, it started with the subtle precursor set up for the hijack, claiming the “fun”)... “It was in a way fun, but sad to see that I’m kinda a robot.” Hijacked. Old paradigm, “I am just a robot”. New paradigm, “Upon doing the work, I have realized I’ve been asleep, in reactions and patterns. Having realized this, I realize I am not at all like a robot, as I am aware of this.” Therefore, you can not be this. Old paradigm, “people are thinking about me, judging me, I need to be concerned with what people are thinking of me, etc” (“paranoia”) New paradigm, “If I am to transcend this robot situation, in my purity of mind, my behaviors, and actions...it’s going to mean more sensation exploration.” Old paradigm, “ya. And, Hellz. No. To the sensation - run!” Thus old paradigm of thought employs the paranoia; old paradigm, thought based, hijacks the sensation, defiles it basically, de-purifies it - claims it - and now it seems like “paranoia”. (But a sensation is a sensation, paranoia requires the thought story of, other people.) New paradigm, “nope. No sir. That shit don’t fly anymore. I want more sensation, not less. These sensations are guidance, truth, the way - certainly not anything to fear. The sensation is itself telling me - you have a history of putting what people think of you - ahead of how you yourself, feel. That is absurd, painstakingly evidence by that very simple fact - that you feel! ” New paradigm, “and you know what, furthermore, I have no idea what anyone is actually thinking! I don’t even know if anyone is actually thinking! This is actually within me - this has only to do with the coming-of-understanding that people (probably the parents) were simply doing their best, given the times, and consciousness.” ”Forgive them, for they know not what they do” very powerful words man. If you are pickin up any of what I’m layin down here...stop and contemplate: I am not aware of a separate thing - paranoia. Paranoia is within awareness. I am not aware of things. All “things”, are actually, in my own direct experience - within awareness. (A linguistic paradox, but, notice, anything you can verbally state you are aware of, is only possibly to state due to the actuality “it” is within your awareness. I am not aware of separate things - parents. Parents are within awareness. I am not aware of separate things - understanding, forgiveness, acceptance. These are within my awareness. And they are dude. These are all within you, now. Sometimes multiple approaches ‘speed up’ a realization. “This place is a dream. Only a sleeper considers it real. Then death comes like dawn, and you wake up laughing, at what you thought was your grief.” The paranoia is (currently) your “grief”. So the question is how to ‘wake up laughing’, how to see the paranoia is the punchline of a joke. I suggest this is done in realizing how you are creating the set up. What is paranoia? “Paranoia is an unfounded or exaggerated distrust of others, sometimes reaching delusional proportions. Paranoid individuals constantly suspect the motives of those around them, and believe that certain individuals, or people in general, are "out to get them." The meta error of that definition, or more accurately, the writer’s misunderstanding, is there is no such thing as an individual. It is precisely there which you find your ‘struggle’, the ‘wrestling’. The definition above is of the material paradigm, that consciousness is a product of matter, namely, the belief a physical body and brain ‘produce’ consciousness, and consciousness is therefore -perceived as individualized, by individuals. (The relative paradigm) The key word here, is “unfounded”. In the above example, paranoia is “unfounded”, because cognitively, logically, one can deduce, people are quite consumed with their own lives & suffering, and there is no foundation to believe anyone else is actually more concerned with your life, your thoughts, your ongoings - than their own. The ‘wrestling match’ is ultimately fueled by the collapse of self & other. A collapse created in love, fueled by love, which ends in love itself. I believe you’ll begin noticing how unfathomably sneaky thinking is, in hijacking the sensations, in an attempt to prevent this most lovely collapse. Look into the mirror once more, and say “you sir, you - are the sneakiest thing in the entire cosmos.” See this, inspect this, look at this sneakiness, until it’s downright hilarious. If you’re not laughing, the sneakiness, your own sneakiness - the joke - is still, on ‘you’. Sneaky peeps create paranoia, sneakily using “others” - as the “cause”. I say this in love my man - Nobody is thinking about you, paranoia is unjustifiable, you can’t even claim in your direct experience that anyone is thinking at all. You just have to look at that sneaky sneaky son of a bitch in the mirror and have the greatest laugh ever about it. ? If you aren’t laughin - there are some sensations currently hijacked, and you have some purification coming. Write about the sensations. Don’t go into the thoughts, the thought stories. Write about how you feel. There are beliefs, related to identity...thoughts mixed with sensation....thoughts which hijacked sensation, a mix which has been repeated resulting in beliefs. Sensation is Truth. Sensation is Purification. What one is purified of, are beliefs. “ It’ll all be dead and gone in just a few short years - Just love will open our eyes, just love will put the hope back in our minds. Much more than we could ever know.....come sisters, my brothers, shake up your bones, shake up your feet! I’m saying “open up and let the rain come pouring in!” Wash out this tired notion that the best, is yet to come. While you’re dancin on the ground - don’t think of when you’re gone. Love! Love! Love! What more is there!” -DM

@zeroISinfinity Just as surely as this thread itself will disappear, there was indeed a first Jew. - Said no evil, ever.

What are the two paths? And why is it, exactly, that this is so... And....what are the deepest, most personal intimate dualities, which the understanding of ‘the two paths’, reveals, clears up, alleviates? These together will coagulate into a tremendous epiphany and meta release.

Talent is a deeply delusional write off, in that sense, it’s preventative of actualizing paranormal ‘abilities’.

@Neorez Really neat!

@mandyjw Can you elaborate as much as possible, as much as you’re willing to, on that? I’m finding it really interesting & intriguing. What are some of the ‘why’s’ you’re pointing to, etc. Thanks!

Non-sense. The lie is not conceptual. People lie in ignorance honestly all the time.

@ThomasT If you’re ‘sizing people up’, seeing ‘individuals levels of consciousness’, you have a much longer way to go than you are thinking. You are not “moving past” anyone. This is a trap. A deep delusion. You’re missing the deliciousness, the miracle, the magic - the point (loosely said).

Enlightenment is not an entity so “it” doesn’t “bring”. Yes, emotional mastery, but more clearly stated, emotional creation. Each of us are already creating our emotions, mastery is realizing this, and creating on purpose, & utilizing the emotions for the benefit of others. Carried out, no self / one self, yet ‘for another’, this is Shaktipat. Obviously there are a few paradoxes realized along the way which make sense of some of this which linguistically alone does not make sense. There is no longer the experience which you are recognizing as ‘work’, ‘orders’, ‘subordinates’, deadlines’, ‘turmoils, tension, anger’, etc, etc. These are not actual in the first place, each one creates these, which is in large part what is realized, and therefore no longer experiential (in the light usage of the word). There’s no ‘acting’ anymore at all, as that is realized / seen through as well. Likewise, there are no ‘enlightened householders’, sans one’s own projection. This is a lack of understanding of one’s self, and of enlightenment, again, a projection onto another & the word as if it were a thing itself which comes in characters like ice cream comes in flavors. It’d be much more accurate to initially see that the house holding, business operating, and the relationships therein, are what one “utilizes” or rather eventually acknowledges as the very truest of teachings and teachers, which aid the enlightenment. It’d be far easier in a cave alone, yet surface level in comparison with daily interaction in the world, and specifically with people of all situations, predicaments, understandings, shortcoming, etc. In this same vein, no guru of thousands of years ago can teach like a two year old can, nor like the co creating of reality can. If you truly take the complete ride, you’re going to naturally uncover many siddhis. It is not helpful to think of siddhis as powers. “Ending the cycle of birth & death” is ending your belief in this. It is already not actual, and therefore does not “end”. The ignorance “ends”. “Unbelief” of loa is denial of one’s own actual creating (and co creating).

@Matt23 Wants & desires come from sensation and ‘meet’ thought / duality / and manifest as choices. If one has chronically suppressed sensations, one has unknowingly chronically created the very emotions one does not want, which perpetuate the suppression. A vicious loop I’d wish upon no one. The usefulness of writing what you want on a big dry erase board, in terms of suffering, especially of chronic recreation of emotional discord (unalignment) , is that - because you do have wants, because you do have desires - the writing of them, as seen by the eyes, and recognized by the mind - triggers ‘that you have suppressed sensations’, and can be the beginning of healing. Oversimplified, but, the brain - often for the first time in one’s life - begins to literally see what has been only previously felt. And it felt bad, and so innocently, was avoided.

@Matt23 Worked with people who suffered from trauma not quite prenatal, but post birth, prior to or during fundamental identity creation. Their breakthroughs were found in understanding the feeling, or sensations they experienced, had no thought nor thought story associated (the understanding of why there was no understanding) A most difficult suffering, which they had experienced their entire lives, and had tried everything under the sun to resolve. The understanding that the trauma was prior to understanding, and again, prior to identity, after some discussion, was a tremendous emotional release. In a sense, the identity facets which did not form, or were ‘paused’ leaving gaps, are reforming in healthy ways. If this rings a bell, let me know and I am happy to help in any way I can.