Nahm

Right on.

@Now_Is_Home You’re lost in thought, not Oneness. Do some thing you enjoy. Listen to something upbeat. Spend some time in nature. Zoom out. ??

@Chives99 Beautiful

@remember Sure. But they don’t. I feel you’re underestimating unconsciousness. No body chooses anger. Feels terrible. Would you estimate that she knows her true being, prior to the thoughts, actions, behaviors, patterns (Duality)? Can a finite mind in paradigm lock flip a duality, perspective, without transcendence of it?

@remember They know not what they do.

@Buba She’s thinking it’s her childhood, it’s her anger, it’s her anxiety. Right now, in this present moment, those are just abstractions, “things” she’s making up. But of course, she doesn’t realize she’s creating it. The Cosmic Joke is, there’s no subject & object relationship. She doesn’t have to “face” anything, nor do we have a time machine in which she could. It’s a matter of becoming more consciousness, present, mindful...not ‘facing’ or ‘figuring’ or overthinking more. “The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself”. I hear ya though. We each cause our own suffering, and nobody can let go for us. Godspeed my friend. You’re a good soul. Her too. If only she had an inclination how innocent she is.

Belief is dualistic, thought. Reality is One. “Hollow by thy name”, but reality is far from “hollow”.

@Average Investor You are beautiful my man ????

@LfcCharlie4 Yes, exactly. ♥️

@dorg Thanks. Hopefully it’s useful.

In a nutshell, a confirmed genuine seeker. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva

@Rasheed Couldn’t have said it better. ??

Sooo sneaky! Lol. Ya, I think you get what I’m sayin. The word belief tends to bring about reassertion of the scope of the finite mind, the vantage point of me, and object. Sometimes the word “Mind” helps open the perspective up. If we were standing on the street together, and you asked if your beliefs create that truck..technically, yes, but the word “belief” isn’t usually thought of in this existential way. It’s easier to consider all is Mind, and you are therefore Mind, and the truck too is Mind. It wouldn’t be easy, or advantageous, to apply the word “belief” to The One that you truly are. “Imagination” might be an easier bridge...? When talking about food and the body, it tends to shift from Mind, to “my beliefs”, but the beliefs, food & body are also Mind. If eating other-than-meat leaves you more energetic, it is likely much easier to simply not eat meat, than to go far enough down the rabbit hole of self (in this hungry instant), to then eat meat and still be ‘at a high vibration’. However, there is a full circle, in which the eating of the meat, no longer imposes upon your vibration. There’s also a solid chance, you won’t want to eat meat by then. Paradoxical sneakery...? I don’t know. Lots of twists and turns on the path. (I don’t literally mean specifically “meat”, just whatever that is which has been transcended at that point). I appreciate you as well. ?? One more note...notice, in the title, when you state ”If eating meat is low-conscious, how Leo is so high conscious?”....relativity is at play. What is “low conscious” & “high conscious” relative to? Likely, an idea of your level of consciousness. There is both validity to “doing the consciousness work”, and scrutinizing that comparison founded in separation to begin with. Judgement is the sneakiest devil there is...and I like to think that why you covered that whole ‘tree of life’ rather than eating front the ‘tree of good & evil’. I get your innocence, that we’re just talkin here, figuring stuff out. But that’s one thing to “figure out” too. What you’ve got to work with is actually thoughts, perception, and sensation - not a “Leo” and an “actual comparison”. The comparison / judgment road will literally go on forever if we’re not careful. What use, really, is comparison - outside of to create? What better consciousness work is there, than to appreciate the work others have done, and create? Need they be “high” & “low”? Need you be “high” & “low”?

What I said, I believe is what you’re saying here....it’s more simple than “you’re still a human”...indeed “this” is “it”. “This” is not a “human”. We can even take that word ”human“ & it’s identification / meaning out of the mix. You could say that is the, or a, key realization, that you are not a human at all. I wouldn’t suggest “when fully self realized one becomes more human than ever”. I think I understand how you mean it, but it’s not really true at the face value of those words. I’d suggest one realizes “who” one is, and has always been, and always will be, rather than one “becomes” a human, or “becomes” more human. One never became a human. The “living of life” is quite different, living in Love, but again, maybe we’re splitting hairs unnecessarily here. It’s ideal imo that we express genuinely, creating a variety of perspectives, ideally causing contemplation & realization for any ‘reader’ of interest. “You still have a personality, you will still have a body, you will still have desires and human needs- water, sex, food etc.” I’m not against it at all, but the phrasing is missing some nuance imo. You’re not Mario, so to speak. “Need” doesn’t really apply, in light of the misnomer “you’re still a human”. Mario can jump, run, and eat mushrooms...but you’re not Mario. It’s a wonderful realization, that need is a belief. Doesn’t mean there is no more running, jumping, and eating of mushrooms. I’d suggest contemplating these are not things you have, but things you are. As in, identified as a human, you have desire. Knowing “who” you really are, you are desire itself / yourSelf. In turn, the running & jumping has no doer, one does not have anything. That’s the fundamental flaw in attachment. It is effortlessness, viscerally, tangibly - actually. There really isn’t a doer present, it just very much appears to be so. It’s most amazing. Likewise for “in this realm”. (You=realm) The “ego” is not merely mental duality, but the entirety of the universe (in contrast with the implication of Universe). Thought, perception, sensation, are transcend-able. There is a vantage point beyond these. These construct the universe. At the same time however, I wouldn’t say “the world does not actually exist”. I have found, specifically in helping people out of psychosis, that understanding the fundamental fact there is only existence is a key, and very deeply healing & assuring. If the “world does not exist”, yet “you’re still a human”, that presents a slippery slope into doorway of psychological suffering, isolation, and potentially nihilism, which can all be easily avoided. I’d suggest the body doesn’t die. That’s built on the premise it is separate and alive to begin with. Air is convincing, etc, but the body is dream, dream does not live and die. When you awake from a dream at night, where is “a body”? Again, this is part of the core of the revelation. If “you’re still a human”, and a body lives & dies”, that implies you are still identified relatively with the body, living, and death. Not a thing wrong with that. Imo it’s more Good news, as it can get even sweeter than it is. “But, please stop spouting non-dual stuff ”... I’m willing to bet, on the surgeon forum, they’re “spouting” surgical stuff. such as 'We are not Human' this only confuses people and I know it confused me in the past, If one is identified with the body, as a human, then it is good for one to move into confusion. That’s progressive, path wise. They should scrutinize more, and continue tuning in to the actuality. yes absolutely this is correct, but it just leaves people confused thinking becoming enlightened means you won't have a body or will have magical powers etc. I don’t know about the fairness of that comment. I think it has more to do with your past than what I stated. I don’t think anyone is figuring there aren’t fingers touching keys over here, that I’m mind controlling this iPad, or their screen, so to speak. The magic of the actuality, the whole, or total, is theirs to discover. would love to know how many people actually awaken via teachers and their flower talking, these videos have their place, but imo SO MUCH MORE is actually needed to genuinely awaken. Not sure what the accusation against me “flower talking” points to. I got nothing against flowers. Also not sure what videos you might be lumping in with me. Shy of a family Christmas or two, I’m not really in many videos. If some how you derived of my words that one just needs “flower talking” & “videos”, that’s just weird, and like you stated...this is it, this very moment is it. No one needs anything to awaken, but every one determined some relative things, some beliefs, so it is good to deconstruct them. Like the belief one is a human.

@Fede83 ?? It’s a fascinating “thing”, consciousness. You will soon enough. For what it’s worth, we’re in the exact same boat. Loving, living, togetherness, doin this life story the best we can. I do feel the love and appreciate it, and right back atcha... but always keep in mind, this bee is not the honey.

Noteworthy, imo...if you’ve ever wondered why you can’t just manifest things ‘right out of thin air’...it’s because you literally already are. Same ‘reason’ we can not forget on purpose...we already are. Also, there is relative mental insanity...and then there is what I believe you had a taste of with the void, and that is basically relativity “disappearing”, “identity” / beliefs, dissolving. It is indeed initially scary...but this is where the love within you shines, where the minimized void comes to bat for ya. Keep in mind, you are not a human who is becoming or experiencing God, you are eternally actually literally God, which was having a dream of being electroBeam...on this “earth”, etc.

@Rasheed It’s hard to communicate through duality / language, because that is more readily used to reinforce the misnomer, because it “gets assigned to Nahm”...meanwhile there’s no one here. A reference or example...someone can take a “hero’s dose” of a psychedelic, and still, have no breakthrough, or have a breakthrough, but no recollection. Someone could do this and daily practices, for decades, for an entire lifetime, and still not have a breakthrough / recollection. Why? It’s all mind. No “thing” has got anything, on mind, as all things, are “mind” (insert what can not be spoken here). Mind always “wins”, so to speak. So for as long as you believe there is an objective reality, how someone can eat, drink & smoke, and live happily to a hundred, while another experiences the opposite, eludes. There are a million factors, and there is none. Glimpsing your sneakiness yet? The infinitely slippery slope of a single thought, creates worlds. You were not born into a physical world, you’re dreaming up experience. Consciousness does not arise from matter. Matter is a dream of consciousness.

The Light & Love that is, is infinite. There is no finite. In forgetting, there appears to be finite. In there appearing to be finite, it appears you are finite (other than Light & Love). Thoughts are believed, identity is created. So, “going back to” Light & Love, is letting the belief identity (other than Light & Love) go. How does infinite absolute Light & Love forget & create experience? Total darkness, veiling. (Void). “Appearance”, denotes there’s no actual how. Full of love, selfless - one slips through the void easily, because it is (for lack of an actual way to say this) “reduced in size” / less forgetting. For one in self denial of love, the void is literally, actually, greater. Everything we’re saying is created of, and relative to, the Light & Love that is. That is all there is, all that is. The thoughts to the contrary are the inadvertent placebo. The Light & Love is for realz. If one was to trip, and have a “bad trip”, one is hanging on to an “identity”, which is far lessor than the truth of the actuality.

@LfcCharlie4 It’s more simple than that. You’re not a human at all. @MAYA EL Says Maya.

There’s a full circle. Beliefs run deep. Mind is not made of food. Food is made of mind. The food debate will go on as long as the collective belief in objective reality does - for you.

@Buba I feel for ya. Again though, the issue at hand is anger, imo. The remedy is consciousness of it, not parenting. There are ample parenting tips & resources online, but anger & fear won’t look. Without fear & anger, loving is the natural order, neither survives in the light and relief of self awareness. For you to focus on the issue being within a relationship is like her focusing on the issue being about her daughter. It’s just keeps it going generationally in relationships like an endless game of hot potato. It’s a one-off, individual issue. It’s anger / losing consciousness at play. Reconnecting with being is the call. Totally understandable that she might not be interested in talking with some forum guy. If that changes down the road, just say the word. Also, if it’s helpful / useful, my wife went through the anger inspection & realization too, and she has a master’s degree in family therapeutic management. She’d love to help if possible as well. The best thing you can do imo, is “root it out” (understand it) within yourself, and liberate. Nothing speaks louder than nonviolence, non-engagement, non-blame, non-anger. True power is realizing there is no assertion. What is most “normal”, imo, is listening to the source within. Abiding by feeling. There are tons of books and resources for this online. ‘Nothing’ (♥️) can change everything. You are more powerful than you have ever imagined my friend. Such fear fuels such anger. If you believe meditation won’t help, ok. But switch the focus to what will. What have you tried? Yoga, therapy, etc? Diet, exercise? Etc. People more readily believe in themselves when they think...well, if he can do it...

awareness = self / no self

@Loving Radiance Nature retreat. With no path stuff. No spiritual crap. Let go by thinking of one muscle in the body at a time and relaxing it. Then the whole body. Feel the muscle relax. Keep repeating. And keep going deeper into the tinier muscles, etc. Then start doing it while breathing from your stomach. You’ll notice even breathing is contracting. But you’ll be quite relaxed by then.

Yes, essential & very important. It opens up a broader more encompassing perspective & use of logic, reason & understanding. The scope & breathe of your vision expands, and so your dream of what is possible in this life does too. If you haven’t looked into spiral dynamics yet, the two pair great together. Very eye opening. People’s predicaments & perspectives, motives, and the systems employed by us, how they fit together. Neat. Draw a half circle on your dream board, like the sun coming up on the horizon. Label that sun ‘diet’. Then draw a bigger half circle around / above that one, and write the bigger thing you want to experience, be, have, or do in this lifetime. What you really want. That which inspires you to the degree you’re loving the idea of feeling light, clean, healthy, energetic, connected, enthused, focused, and reveling in well being. Most of all, look forward to clarity you haven’t experienced before. That’s awesome. And of course, intuition & instinct. Maybe a siddhi or two down the road. Enjoy it all. Also, draw a bigger half circle around that, slap yourself across the face with a wet spatula, wake up, and get real about dreaming bigger. Then write that in the bigger circle. Then draw another one. Then take a step back and see how awe inspiring and freeing your health & well being is, to this moment right now.

@Buba It’s not a parenting issue. Indirectly, yes. Your sister could educate and practice with regards to the catalyst, her anger. And technically, the anger isn’t addressed, because it’s already unconscious behavior. At that point, there’s literally nobody home to do anything different. The root, & prevention is addressed. I’ll talk with her anytime if she wants to try something different. I grew up in a chronically angry household. I currently have three kids, and live in a very happy household.