Nahm

@Visionary Synchronicities off the chart today. Just passed Ederson on my way into therapy.

@Patok Yep.

@Patok If I may, what was the key takeaway for you from the movie?

@Shadowraix Roger that. My bad.

Book of Thomas is pretty solid.

@zeroISinfinity I agree.

Can you elaborate? Are you saying you’ve seen God & the devil...fighting? Are you saying this is happening within you? Are you saying there is you, God, and a devil, and they are separate entities, like, fighting over you or something? Where did you first hear of this? (Unless you’re saying you are visually witnessing it or whatnot).

I’d start with where it most literally occurs...and sort assumption from direct experience. Using paper rather than ‘in the head’ is most ideal. It’s much easier to sort out what is seen. I don’t have a link with info, but essentially this is what I do, and there’s a link in the signature below to my site. Happy to help here or there so to speak, in any case. I think you get where I’m ‘pointin’ too. My idea of you is no more accurate than my idea of truth. Ideas are ideas. “It” is you. Understandable. There’s a sort of ceiling of communication in this format (words / the forum). Psychology is as it appears though, it’s one thought. Just like “toilet” is one thought. That, (points to “toilet”) isn’t a toilet. “Toilet”, is a thought, a word learned.

@Shadowraix Admittedly being challenging here...sorta...but paradox is only something in duality, in thought. It’s not a ‘feature’ as in actual. ?

I didn’t say ‘we’. I don’t know if you mean that in an ‘off the cuff’ way, or if you are saying you actually believe there is a God and a Devil, as ‘other entities’, having some kind of cosmic battle or something of that nature.

? My ‘ball busting’ would be to let self reference go. Thoughts of me, myself - even as Source - indirectly, reinforce a ‘sayer’ or ‘separate self’. *This might very well be over the top ‘ semantical on my end, due to the nature of this typing / language medium here.

@zeroISinfinity Let me know if I should bust balls with more nuance. ???

@zeroISinfinity ?

This gets into a ‘heated’ place conversationally and that is not my intention, but... there is no such thing as suffering. Please note, I say this in a specific way, in a “pointing” if you will between pain... & suffering as in mental anguish, misery, the “no pain no gain” perspective, “becoming”, etc. It is very much like realizing who the devil is, and why the story is so ‘famous’. Well...yeah, in the sense, I’d have to be an over the top ball buster to argue with that. But at the same time, what is psychology, other than one single thought arising at a time, Now. No psychologist has ever found a “mind”, in the same sense no physicist has ever found “matter”. Yeah, that’s kinda where I’m coming from here. I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s not of value to learn, but duality (thought) can also be it’s own quicksand. An interesting note...all this “ego” “work”, etc, etc.....”ego” (from what I understand)...is one word, coined (or made popular) by one man. And as crazy as it might sound, that is literally all that it is. Might take many views, but the double slit can “cut through” all psychology. But of course, as I’m saying this - these are just thoughts, opinion, which could be said to only be “psychology”. Imo, thought is only for creating. That’s it. One at a time to choose and create. Apparently. Feeling is “where it’s at”, where intelligence “is”, to the extent little to no psychology is needed. Unless there are deep enough beliefs, identification, attachment, etc...but even then, it’s often innocently used directly and via enablement, to avoid purification, which is none other than feeling. An interesting question maybe (op wise)...where is suffering found - other than in one’s own “psychology”.

If it seems like there is a “devil” it is because one has yet to realize it is one’s self.

@SoonHei Yeah. 1g, imo.

@Verowilleswissen That the undesirable feeling is about the external world, rather than communicating to you regarding only the one single thought arising, right now, will keep the “fear” alive. Listening to the feeling, and writing on paper (out of your head)... you’ll discover you’re making it (fear) up. It’s an emotional misunderstanding. You are in control of this, and a belief to the contrary will never resonate in feeling. Carry on long enough, and feeling, the source of you, will sit you down and wash you clean. It’ll take you out of your rush & hurriedness, and practically force you to let thinking go - and shift to perception & feeling. I’d suggesting letting the term “panic attack” go, and making a dream board. See what you want in life in front of you.

Did he legitimize suffering? Doesn’t sound like someone’ who knew who he was. Sounds like a ceiling of duality / psychology, rather than self understanding.

@SoonHei Shrooms+Zoo Keeper ??. Elephants never the same.

@Inliytened1 @SoonHei Omg yes. Seen Trolls & Smallfoot? ?? ?♥️

@SoonHei ?? Some Peter Pans fav’s... “You always know after you are two. Two is the beginning of the end.” “You know that place between sleep and awake, the place where you can still remember dreaming? That’s where I’ll always love you, Peter Pan. That’s where I’ll be waiting.” ”If you cannot teach me to fly, teach me to sing.” “After you have been unfair to him he will love you again, but he will never afterwards be quite the same boy. No one ever gets over the first unfairness; no one except Peter.” “Death is but the next great adventure...so come with me, where dreams are born, and time is never planned. Just think of happy things, and your heart will fly on wings, forever, in Never Never Land!” -J. M. Barrie, Peter Pan

@Nahm pm’s fine btw, if ya like.

@Loving Radiance You said ‘dispute the emotion’. If you can label the emotion, ideally with one word, I’ll tell you how you’re creating it.

@dimitri Tripping Nahm’s over here.

@Loving Radiance ?? I hear ya. I consider emotion to be the product / experience. So it’d be what I’m creating, rather than anything I could be creating in spite of. Not trying to be argumentative or anything though.