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@Mason Riggle Seize the opportunity, take the time. Pour yourself into somethin, transmute a few levels up. Learn something you wanted to learn, sing something you want to sing, create something you’ve been wanting to create, go somewhere you’ve thought about going. Rock the solo. (Not as in leave her, just as in focus, attention & time). That pain is high octane creation. Do you2.0.

@Gabith Absolutely beautiful. ?

@Thought Art if you were to think about what you would change, and add to that thinking that that change applies to everyone, and then think of the change that change would cause, and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on, you would literally end up right where you are fully realizing sheer dumbfounding perfection.

@ivankiss Amen to that indeed. Reminds me of Esther‘s example with the oxygen mask speech on airplanes. If you put yours on first you both got a chance, if you don’t you’re probably both gonna die. Heavily paraphrasing here.

@ivankiss Agreed, enabling is quite twisted. Leaving like, now, vs mentally backing out of it, getting some ‘space’, untwisting oneself and then addressing it, is really circumstantial.

@Kalki Avatar Wondering if you use the word confidence in a unique way. It’s pretty weird word as it is. It can refer to excitement, and also to ignorance, but doesn’t necessarily imply it. Might be a connotation tangle at play. Maybe the suffering is more motive driven, or whatever the opposite of confidence is might be held in some subtle belief, making it seem as if confidence is necessary.

Who knows.

@ivankiss During an incident, meditating in any formal seated sense probably wouldn’t be ideal, but rather meditatively grounding, feeling breathing from the stomach, non-reaction. In that sense meditation is very beneficial overall / prior to any such incidents. Day after day is a bit different and it depends on one’s situation. For a child, it’s very likely immediate removal from the home is ideal. For an adult, who is helplessly experiencing being abused by another adult, the same. For an adult who desires to stay in the relationship and bring an end to the abuse, and can recognize the distinction between ‘I am being abused’ & ‘he or she is abusive’, meditation (and utilizing all available resources) is ideal. The meditative mind is less reactionary, and as such recognizes the reactionary behaviors of others, and does not or is far less likely to take it personally and engage, but to ‘leave it with’ their s.o. compassionately and supportively suggesting meditation & other resources available.

@ivankiss Kind of an odd question, can you clarify a little? Do you mean generally, as in while in a rough patch in life… or literally, as in while a physical or emotional assault is occurring?

@ivankiss Not sure how being forced relates… but the mind can not serve two masters, experience is whole.

@Thought Art If the same thing happened again, but this time you were not hurt & devastated, what would be different?

That really is the key. The letting the layers / beliefs / stories go, even the ones about nondualists & materialism.

@ivankiss Yes, one should try everything, take advantage of all resources. No, that’s all aversion of meditation.

@museumoftrees Does making sure you know who is trustworthy and who is not seem very important, like, paramount, critical? Maybe even more so, do you already believe that some people are trustworthy & some people are not? How does the importance of how you are seen & thought of compare to the importance of what you think & how you feel?

@ivankiss Yes. In childhood and adulthood, emotionally & physically speaking. No, because I was innocently and later ignorantly reacting & projecting that I was being asserted upon.

Is there someone in your life, from your childhood, who stands out as always under control, got everything in life in order & clicking, doesn’t get knocked off their equanimity, always knows what to do & say etc?

@Madhur Settin up a sort of ‘I have her love or I suffer’ scenario there. Head’s up.

‘Becoming’ is a tricky word, as it gives the impression it is not already the case and suppressed. A ‘looking for it’ begins and leads to an allowing it as natural expression. These natural aspects are veiled by labelling (‘masculine’).

When your narrative upon what you’re experiencing ceases (literally your entire story about a “her”, and all therein), she experiences with clarity that she is feeling her own perspectives. Until then, you confuse your selves so to speak, & continue believing you confuse each other. That is the confusion. This clarity is present and available sitting next to her, or in an ashram. Always up to you.

Much love brother!

Using the scientific investigative process, inspect the actuality of ‘the scientific view’. Find how it is separate from just, your view. Go prior. Because splitting a thought in two is just, another thought. “I” is of course just another thought, and thoughts are not a product of brains, as brains is just, another thought. Yes, emotional suppression and apparent corresponding identification rumination, or, mind seeking the substance of itself beyond or outside of, ‘itself’. (The’ Trap’) Subject & objects, subjective & objective, are thoughts, mistaken as ‘a me’ thinking. Prove to … who? What a Jokester no one is.

@Brivido Great insights. Pleasure to read & thanks for sharing. How is your foundation of basics like daily meditation, clean eating, etc? That’d help with the self referential thoughts which ‘hijack’ the revelations in hindsight, creating the ‘rollercoastering’ experience, the ‘that’ world & ‘this’ world aspect.

Very nice.

Why all this ‘9-5 slave labor’, ‘trauma’ etc? Ducks? Giraffe’s? Concrete? Clouds? What is it literally (not your labels)? Why is it so? Do you survive in a dream, or do you survive, in a dream?

Separation is like nonexistence.