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Mail-in ballots are unsafe therefore Biden has an advantage? Because Trump is an angel and wouldn't abuse his power as the sitting president to take advantage of this unsafeties.

Conservatives undermining democracy by claiming voter fraud. Love how these people have no principles at all.

Would be funny to test what would happen if there was a "Badge of Consciousness" in this forum to distinguish low consciousness people from higher consciousness ones. I feel like the quality of the members of this forum the past two years or so have degraded significantly.

Biden won pretty much, correct?

Hearing that it's looking much better for Trump at the moment than the polls projected, much like last election.

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/president/

I heard someone say that Rep Voters don't vote by mail so they are lagging behind giving an appearing of Dems winning, but I have no idea if that's a thing or if it's relevant. How long do you guys think will it take for the announcement to happen?

Some simple points many people here seem to have difficulty grasping. Even the commentators in the video seem to have a better grasp of this than some people in here who claim to meditate and do self-inquiry work. Quote: I have tried to point this out to many people in here, who are doing that very same thing. This is vital to get a grasp on even outside of the topic that is being discussed in the video. As conscious individuals we must develope a good sense of when we are being biased. This is why such a challenging topic is so excellent to demonstrate this phenomenon. Sometimes we need to go back to the lower stages and learn that which we have skipped to learn, so that our development can be well-rounded. For the vast majority of people in here the greatest oppurtunity for growth is to learn to integrate the lower stages, rather than looking at ideals that can only be achieved when these "lower-level aspects" have been integrated in the first place.

Extending your compassion to those beings you are consuming will be a far greater reward than any pleasure or convinience you could experience.

There is an interesting dynamic that I think might not be as obvious at first glance. If there is a certain geopolitical order in the world, a natural tendency of each nation-state to fall into a certain place of the hierarchy of power, any aberration away from that natural order would require force to sustain itself. In other words, it requires an outside force to shape a river beyond it's natural tendency of flowing where there is least resistance. If we assume that China is in a unique geopolitical position which actually deems it, in the context of least resistance, to be the hegemony of the world, what does this mean for any other nation-state that seeks to uphold it's current hegemony on the world stage? It means that the country must interfer in the natural power-structures, and war is the natural consequence of such interferences. For the US to maintain it's position at the top, it must continiously undermine the natural order, the natural harmony that would reveal itself if non-interference were to be a reality. China has been the center of the world for thousands of years, europe was meaningless. As we speak that historic order is being restored and it seems like the US will not be able to maintain it's dominance in the world without severe conflict. See, if nature deem it so that you are not at the top of the foodchain, it will require you to resist nature. This will lead to suffering. Mankind as a whole can be viewed to be in this stage of development. In our attempt to free ourselves from the natural order, we have subjugated nature. The suffering it takes to maintain our position in nature far exceeds any suffering we ourselves would have experienced if we had maintained the natural order. China is the center of the world, whether you like it or not. They are the majority, so it is a priority that they start to progress. If they become the hegemony, they will develope. They will rise in consciousness. We can have all the progress in the west, it is meaningless to what it would mean for China and India to progress. And China and India will progress, and we might be able to aid them if we are willing to give in to the natural order. It seems to me that it could very wellbe that we are currently the hinderance to the progress of mankind, not them.

Precisely, which is why being clearly able to identify this kind of bias is so central to consciousness work.

If Trump wins I will view that as an official failure of the american democracy. It will become very difficult to avoid eco-fascistic tendencies in the future if we do not radically change as soon as possible. Meanwhile, China can just decide they are going carbon neutral. No need for elections, no need for hoping that the people vote someone into office who isn't a complete lunatic. And no schizophrenic change in direction with every new election. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54256826

The true issue here is not Alex Jones, but someone like Joe Rogan who legitimizes him. Joe Rogan does not take responsibility for his platform at all, he is stuck in stage orange so he is unwilling to recognize the tremendous negative effect he has on the world and the people when he has clowns on who he doesn't challenge at all basically. Joe Rogan would be the type who would have had Adolf Hitler on to have a fun time with him.

How do you know? Sure, but how do you know you can't be vegan? And if you can't, what is a reasonable thing to do? Is it reasonable to start killing human beings for meat? No, you would say that you would rather eat a cow before you eat a human. And then you should ask yourself, is there something rather than a cow that you can eat? This would be a reasonable approach, while still advocating for veganism. Also, of course everyone can be vegan. Veganism is an ethical position. If you truly do need meat to survive, you can be vegan while consuming meat. But you would have to ensure that you truly do need to consume meat to survive. How do you accomplish that?

People also became judgemental after they realized slavery is wrong and should be abolished. Slavery would make you feel much stronger and healtheir aswell, considering that you wouldn't have to be the one working in a field. Labels are terrible, I mean calling someone a slaver just because he keeps slaves just closes your mind and prevents you to see other perspectives and possibilities. Freeing your slaves and blaming others for keeping them won't solve these deeply complex issues about slave culture and slave abuse. If your God Leo kept himself some human slaves, could you accept that? Not everyone can work in the field, we are different and there is no superior way. I agree with you that this has nothing to do with spirituality. But the argument you are providing can be easily used to justify anything you would consider undesirable in a society. It is also not very surprising that you would have felt bad from only eating exotic sweet fruit and greens, instead of a normal balanced diet. But the more important question is whether the benefits you are experience justify what is being done to other individuals, and if you do accept that, whether human slavery wouldn't be just as justified. Just because veganism was all about a label for you and your own health, does not mean that this is true for others. There are plenty of people who genuinely want slavery to be gone and would fight for it. It's not all bad just because it has low-consciousness aspects. The world is driven by low-consciousness. If you cannot grasp this you need to accept reality for what it is, and that judgement is a driver of civilizations. It will take a long time until society operates from a place of consciousness. And to demonize everything just because it doesn't fit your spiritual ideals is actually a hinderance to the progress and evolution of nature. There is a place and time for this kind of talk, and it's certainly not when mother nature is literally dying and trillions of beings are brutalized unnecessarily by mankind. This is a time of adopting radical responsibility and being able to make the sacrifices that need to be done. If this will not happen, nature will make it happen.

Replace animals with mentally handicapped people of the same level of cognitive ability as animals and you know my answer. Consider that there is a fundamental difference in what we value here, and how we value it. Imagine the majority of the world would deem it ethical to throw homosexuals off a roof. Imagine you lived in a spiritual community which largely agreed with that sentiment. They would not just deem it to be permissable, but infact they would contribute and actively engage in the killing of homosexuals. This is the position I find myself in. And ironically you, because you use Spirituality to justify your deeds, have to admit that you cannot say that I am wrong, because all of it is just relative. It's just an opinon, a spiritual ego, that makes it so people resist the killing of homosexuals. Therefore you would have to judge, within that context, such a person who argued against the killing of homosexuals in just the same way you are judging me.

It seems like what motivates the creation of conspiracy theories is very much the same force that creates religions. And it seems like the attempt of unifying the conspiracy theories is actually another extended force present within creation of religions, akin to integrating multiple theistic traditions into one unified polytheistic tradition, which then might be attempted to be turned into a monotheistic one. Very interesting. Or we are just entering into Stage One Idiocracy.

I don't know what you mean by sensitive. And I don't know what you mean by agenda, I think I am pretty transparent about my motivations here. Of course this is a more relevant thing to talk about for me because I view it as important. And it is also a good way to illustrate some of the pitfalls of spiritual ideology, which I think many people here have fallen into. I think it is a mistake to use spirituality to justify or prohibit actions. But that was described in detail in the initial posts I made here. It's a bit surprising how unconscious some people here are in terms of them not realizing what they are doing. They will at one hand use Spirituality and Love to say that killing animals is all fine and dandy, and in the next thread over they will complain about politics or any other topic. They would never use this kind of thinking to go into a thread about how raping children is wrong, and tell everyone they should just be more spiritual and accept things.

lol Growing lab grown meat would be more compassionate and ethical. It would be most certainly healthier due to us being able to control for factors like cholesterol. Antibiotic resistant bacteria would not be a problem anymore because we wouldn't be using antibiotics on animals anymore, which is actually a serious problem we currently have. There is a possible future in which anti-biotics are completely useless, in which human beings die from basic infections as they did 200 years ago. It would stop one of the most significant drivers of environmental destruction. A significant amount of your so called monocrops are being fed to factory farmed animals. Infact, animal agriculture makes it impossible for us to adopt any other means of crop production but monocrops. Demand is too high for us to do any healthy kind of agriculture. Infact, if demand in Asia keeps rising and meet western standards, we will need multiple planets just so we can grow the crops to feed the animals. With grazing animals this becomes even worse, infact we would require multiple planets to meet the already present demand. Why do you think are the amazon forests being burned? They are making room for the cows so they can export them to China. If this continues, there will be no significant forest left on this planet in the next 100 years. It would not necessitate to put human beings in the position of having to kill other sentient beings as a job, preventing them from experiencing terrible PTSD very similar to what war veterans experience. Having to kill hundreds of animals every day while expecting these people to remain psychologically intact and treat the animals respectfully is absurd. There is no evidence that millions of vegans are anemic, have a ruined gut and therefore cannot continue to be vegan. All the studies we have seen so far indicate the opposite. I don't know, how does it feel to have a moral pedestal to those low stage slave owners? I'm sure that is all just spiritual ego. "If you think raping and killing humans is evil, you don't understand Love." There is no point in bringing Love into any of this, other than you attempting to justify your own identity with your spiritual beliefs.

Sadly it's unlikely that you are fixing anything, and what seems like a solution will be just more detrimental to you in the long run. As you continue to consume only meat, your gut biome will change. The already dysfunctional biome will grow more dysfunctional, as all bacteria who survive off of plant matter will die out. You will notice this in terms of the reaction towards the foods you were sensitive to increasing significantly. The bacteria that previously digested and broke down certain matter will cease to exist and your body will be unable to cope with them. It is recommended to get your gut checked out by a specialist, the healing process will be long. I just hope you have not reached some point of no return due to your measures which might cause irreparable damage to your gut. This situation is like if school made you stressful, and you skipped school. Now however going to school becomes even more stressful because you will be confronted about skipping school. So you continue to skip school to avoid the stress of being confronted. And it just grows worse and worse. You don't feel any stress, but you also can't go back to school anymore. If you will go back, what you will experience will be far worse than if you had just gone to the school. The underyling problem of why school caused you stress was not even addressed at all, you just found a way to avoid it.

It is happening in my family aswell, it only effects family members who don't have a certain level of education though.

If it is because of taste, then the reason why you kill the cow is because of taste, not any of the other reasons you have given. If maturity is achieved, this will be recognized and accepted. And once it is accepted, your mind can start to resolve this problem if it remains a problem to you.

For the german folk in here: I keep seeing this all around. Conspiracy theories are being unified with spiritual ideology. It seems to me like Stage Green has a signficant problem to solve that it does not yet know how to solve. If you deconstruct reality, how do you actually come to construct a new one? If reality is deconstructed before the need for certainty has been resolved, it seems to lead to a construction of reality from a place of pure ego and bias. The world is constructed from a place of identity. This leads to new collective realities forming, less evolved to due lacking the rigor of natural selection that has taken place within the context of survival. The lack of constraint gives us freedom, yet constraint was the only thing that kept us rational. We have abandoned the swimming aids and are now confronted with having to swim all on our own. This is why a sudden psychedelic revolution would mean the collapse of civilization. This is why evolution takes time. It requires time for a healthy individual and collective to form. Unfortunately it looks like if we breach too fast into Stage Green, we will simply regress back to Stage Blue. Infact it will be the Stage Green people, precisely because they have not integrated Blue well enough, who will construct a Blue structure. Blue is the structure upon we all tread. Once that structure is gone, it has to be replaced. This is why evolution must happen by transcendance and inclusion, not by exclusion. We must consider that psychedelics were forbidden by law not because we fear them, but because the wisdom of God has determined that we are not ready for them yet. It is very much possible that our fear of Psychedelics is the same as our fear of Nuclear weapons. We intuit on a deeper level the consequences of these technology if we were given free rein over them.