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There is nothing that is aware, unless Mystery deemed it so. Mystery can deem anything, your egoic restrictions mean nothing to Mystery, unless it is deemed so. You are trying to capture Divine Intelligence, when it is Free. It is Free, and you are attempting to shackled it to a Ground that does not exist, unless it is deemed so.

This is the case to uphold Creation in it's form that we can currently see. Look around you, things strive for Unity. Goodness, Pleasure, Beauty, all of that is a type of Energy the Divine uses to structure reality to it's Will. To the contrast of that, Suffering, Ugliness is the energy which God uses to avoid certain things from it's Creation. See, you cannot help but seek Unity, animals cannot help but seek Unity, plants cannot help but seek Unity, molecules and atoms cannot help but seek Unity. The gravity that pulls things towards Unity is Pleasure, Beauty and Goodness. Try not to make sense out of this, as it is self-justifying. There is no reason for this other than that it was deemed so. You are right, there is no apparent reason. The reason is because Mystery deemed it so, as a pure form of true Free Will. Listen to some religious chants, songs, art. You will notice the Divine communicated and manifested it's Unity, it's Beauty, it's Symmetry within all of them. We as small pieces of Creation, we have been created to praise the world, we are the servants of Unity. That is what you are. Why is that the case? Look into the very essence of that question, and you will find the Source, the Groundless Ground. It has no reason to it, and whatever reason it had, was itself something that emerged from the Groundless Ground. Your Ego is not Anti-Unity. What you have discovered was actually that which fuels the Ego, that which is the goal of the Ego, that which the Ego contributes to. You are back with your ego now, and that is Good. Without it, there would be no Creation. What if there was no Creation, who would be praising the Goodness and Perfection of the Divine?

Praise the Sun my brothers and sisters. Next time the sun rises from the horizon, feel it's warmth and recognize it's beauty. Look around you and see all the things the sun has given you. By praising the sun, you will be praising the Divine, the giver of Life. Gratitude is to recognize that you are being loved. Not just loved by anyone, but loved by Being itself. That alone will heal your Soul. Gratitude is spiritual, it is to connect to the gift and miracle of reality, and to clearly recognize it's divinity. Stop overthinking what you are, what you are not, and simply be grateful. Let go of the struggle, let go of the seeking. You don't have to be seeking anything, you don't have to struggle for anything. The gift is already here, the miracle has already taken place. The light is already illuminating every fibre of your being. Gratitude will open your eyes to what reality is. It is your spirit reaching out to your essence. You do not need to let go of your ego, you can simply open your heart right now. If your seeking is motivated by the rejection of your self, then it is motivated by fear. You fear what Divinity has given you, you fear yourself. How will you ever recognize Divinity if you run from your Self? This is your Self, all of it. It is your gift, it is your miracle. Let us praise it, let us be grateful. When you read this, do not look at it as an instruction, do not look at it as philosophy or advice, look at it like you would at a flower. Look at it like you would at a flower when you are in love. Recognize in all of these words the wisdom and purity of Divinity, and simply be grateful. Don't add, don't substract, simply be grateful.

Reality, at it's core, at it's essence, in it's Being, is not sensical. It is not rational, it is not causal, it is not rigid. Over the past few months and weeks, I have become more and more comfortable with letting go of Sense-making, with looking for contradiction. This process naturally unfolds because I can clearly see that reality is beyond non-contradiction, and beyond sense-making. This means that I recognize that Reality has no Ground, it has no Ground. Reality truly is apossible (not impossible, but yet not possible), it is uncontainable. This realization is self-destructive, as soon as it manifests as realization, as sense-making, it becomes the possible, the impossible. And yet, that is still part of the apossibility. When someone realizes this, everything becomes the possible, because the possible is unrestricted by the impossible. To be clear, this could mean that for all of the timespan of the universe miracles are not possible, but yet, they are possible when Christ walks on the earth. This is an apossibility. Once this becomes an apossibility, everything could be an apossibility, because everything is an apossibility. This also means that while Christ walked the earth and spoke the absolute Truth of the Bible, the Greek Gods existed too, at the same time, being Absolute. There is a true recognition that the only reason this is not so, or is so, is because of apossibility. It is because of Divinity, because of Absolute Free Will. Apossibility allows for Understanding. Reality is much more clear than we assume. Reality is Absolutely Clear. That which we call Unconsciousness is Pure Clarity. And yet it is not, it is clearly not. It cannot be contained in anything I have just said. All of it is an attempt to restrict, to capture, to ground. And so, inherently, to reject that which seems impossible, so to reject the nature of Reality. This is why we can fall into Delusion, because there ceases to be any structure to the non-delusional. It all becomes pure miracle, pure mystery.

@Leo Gura Actually Leo, this is something I have been struggling with for a long time. I really get the best results when I don't do any conscious practice, but rather I investigate a particular thing without even realizing what it is, and I just have such passion and curiousity, such focus, that I can go right into it. I just can't create this artificially, I can really feel the difference between this genuine curiousity and any meditative practice that I do. How to resolve this?

Yes, I think a lot of the words we use are just a reflection of the human mind trying to wrestle with that which cannot be wrestled with. It very much leads to this: It is time-stamped. It's so funny because I stumbed upon this not at all trying to do some meditative practice, or some intention to find something. I was simply purely curious, and was looking sharply. That's all I did, not even very consciously. And it becomes very clear. Very, very clear. Funny. I was always like "It has no form, what do you mean it has no form, how can you be aware of it if it has no form?". It's just the mysterious, that's what it is. Of course, it's not even a realization.

For the non-dualists, this is the important thing to see: Whatever you will say about what I say being untrue, or not possible, or delusional, anything you could possibly say, all of it will be because Mystery deemed it so. And that is what I am trying to point to. See, you could be right, I could be right, nobody could be right. We could be all blind or all seeing. And yet, it would only be so because Mystery deemed it so. "Unless you understand this, your words have no substance." Because Mystery deemed it so, unless it doesn't. There is nothing more to it, and if there is, it is because Mystery deemed it so. Getting a grasp of this will dissolve your desire for understanding, or recontextualize what it is. Because all of it will be clear to be mysterious, including any understanding of it. Including all of this. Existence is not merely duality, or non-duality, it is Mystery. Unless Mystery deems it otherwise.

Mystery is what created God's Imagination. True Mystery. There is no Self in Mystery, unless it deems it so. Mystery is what deemed it so you can fully recognize God, and then come here with understanding to tell us about it. All of that is simply something Mystery deemed so.

I cannot relate to the word imagination. It is tou particular, too biased. Mystery is a better word for this. There is no reality outside of Mystery. Delusions are inherently mysterious, and anything that is mystified, is mystified that it is not mysterious.

You are stuck in non-dualism. What I am saying is mystery, it cannot be captured, which is why it will not make sense to you. It is not supposed to make sense. Mystery is beyond non-duality. You can recognize Mystery without non-duality. Look at the particulate of a grain of sand. If you truly recognize it's nature, you will recognize Mystery, and you will have no words, no possible understanding. You will know immediately the nature of Mystery. You will come to see that it lacks any Nature, any Quality, any reason, any cause. It is that which gives rise to non-duality, and to duality. That will make you recognize true Divinity, in all things. If that is what Mystery deemed so.

By the way Leo you should clarify somewhere that makes it clear to members that their DMs are not private and can be read by moderators/you. I think it is a breach of privacy not to make this apparent.

There were some strange fallacies in the video, like how they frame that a singular individual would make no difference. That makes no sense in the context of a cultural revolution where most people would change their consumptive habits. They aswell explained how if we do not stop consuming so many animals we will not be able to fix climate change, yet at the same time they say we should focus mostly on politicians. What are politicians supposed to do here? They at this moment perfectly represent the people, who simply do not care about climate change for the most part. It seems like they simply lack understanding of how societies evolve and transform. There is a reason why we do not vote for politicians who radically care about climate change, because most people simply don't care. They are not developed enough to care about the world. What we need is a cultural evolution towards stage green, and that will necessarily include adoption of responsibility and a change in consumptive habits. The actual truth would sound more like we need to both adopt radical consumptive habits aswell as radical political change. But I doubt either of those things will happen in time. This video really gives off the vibe of "Holy shit we have no fucking clue what to do about this but let us try think outside of the box". The fundamental problem is that climate change will cause an increase in survival pressures, which will make it unlikely that we will progress and more likely that we will regress into less developed stages. So, I would not bet on any of this getting solved with an increase in consciousness, but rather the opposite. It will be fueled by fear and suffering.

No, because the person is imagined, it is one "object" in imagination. Whoever you think you are, and whatever desires you have, all of them are imagined in the first place by the Divine. So, once you attain ultimate insight into imagination, you simply recognize that the universe already is precisely the way you wanted it to be imagined, including the limitations of personhood. It's like you are already imagining everything, including your lower form desire to somehow attain super human combat abilities. But you already imagined so that this is not possible, because that's the way you wanted it to be. Consciousness already is imagining everything exactly as it wants to.

Good luck with that.

Consider this: “Thus it is said: The path into the light seems dark, the path forward seems to go back, the direct path seems long, true power seems weak, true purity seems tarnished, true steadfastness seems changeable, true clarity seems obscure, the greatest art seems unsophisticated, the greatest love seems indifferent, the greatest wisdom seems childish. The Tao is nowhere to be found. Yet it nourishes and completes all things.” Contemplate this in the context of extinction and alien intervention.

That's probably not wise, if we are not able to save ourselves, we will not be able to sustain further technological development, which will require even more collective and individualistic responsibility. Right now we are enslaving and exploiting more animals every year than humans have existed in the history of the world, what makes you think that they would save us if they are not even willing to save those slaves. They might nudge us in the right direction, but if we can't deal with this ourselves, we simply are a failed species. The wisest thing at that point might be to let us go extinct, or allow us to evolve into a new direction after a fresh start post-cataclysm. Don't forget humanity most likely is not special at all, infact it could very well be that among all the other more developed species, we are exceptionally unconscious due to our particular genetic make-up. And to those aliens, waiting a few million years might not be an issue. In fact, if they are here, it is likely that they were here for a long time and if you look at past cataclysms, it seems like they had no issue watching whole civilizations get obliterated. Aliens probably recognize what I have described in my last post. This earth is it's own form of intelligence, and to evolve it must go through it's self-expression. To hinder that would be to actually disrespect the wisdom of Divinity, and they might clearly recognize that it would lead to more harm than good. The only possible way to change the trajectory of this world is through teaching us Inner Evolution, not force Outer Evolution. One more important aspect here is that the individual and particular Expression of this Planet is in and of itself valuable. If the aliens were to come to this earth and simply impose their own unique evolution onto us, then they would destroy the very purpose of why they are trying to help us in the first place. They are trying to help us so that this planet can come to it's full and authentic self-expression, not so that they can create clones of their own particular planets dispositions. Otherwise, they could just let us all go extinct and replace us with themselves. They probably recognize divinity in the unique way this planet is evolving, and to think that they would know better than God itself would be pure arrogance. They are here to cherish God, not to impose their egoic desires onto God. Contemplate this. If you were the aliens, would you save the dinosaurs from extinction by changing the trajectory of the asteroid? How could you possibly know that it is the wisest thing to do? You have to let go of your attachment to humanity and see the bigger picture. Humanity is nothing in the grand scheme of things, and sooner than later it will perish, through evolution or extinction. That is the very point of all of this.

Watch this.

Panic evolved for a reason, sometimes it is appropriate. Society is not conscious enough to resolve this through pure reason and wisdom, so to surpress the natural reaction of fear might lead to more damage, counter-intuitively. Sometimes letting things play out unconsciously is this wisest thing to do. Don't forget, Divine wisdom permeates all things, and it is far greater than the limited wisdom of Leo. I would instead encourage him to explore this fascet of himself. Fearmongering solves alot of things, wisdom can only be aquired when we see clearly what it solves and what it does not solve. See, we first have to recognize the wisdom of the unwise before we can truly surpass it. We have to include, to transcend. And to include means to recognize it's divinity. Consider the possibility that in the future, the wisest path will be to regress to stage blue. To create a solid epistemic foundation, rooted in some sort of eco-fascism to solve our immediately survival problems. To put everyone who resists to a wall and shoot them dead. See, when we as conscious people resist that possibility, what else is that but fear? I am not saying that it will be what will happen, I want to illustrate how our supposed higher consciousness can sometimes lead us to be blind to the wisdom that gives rise to all things. In an even deeper sense, that wisdom gives rise to both your resistance to it, aswell as the resistance that you do resist to. And in that bigger play of resistance, there is a deeper wisdom, a deeper freedom and an expression of true Will. As soon as you scoff at the ant for it's ignorance, you forget the very foundation of what Intelligence is, you become blind to it. And your only solice is that, that very blindness, is part of Divine Intelligence. Even further, let us recognize the Divine Intelligence in Adolf Hitler and everything he achieved. It takes great humility to recognize that it was truly Divine, truly intelligent, and that the source of his actions, the source of his ignorance, was the very Wisdom that allows us to see it. See, the problem with Arrogance, from a perspective of a seeker, is that it makes us blind to all of this. As soon see look at the Trump supporter and see anything but pure Intelligence, it is the moment we have lost out sight to our own survival. And that is ultimately not a problem, it is wisdom aswell, but as a seeker, we need to recognize that. If one were to truly recognize the Absolute Wisdom of Existence, I do not know what would happen. It seems like it would Dissolve the very thing that recognizes.

Is it really hard to understand that shaping something to look like a corpse of a once sentient being is different than making something look like a product that has no resembles to it? Anti-vegans are utterly cringe in how hard they try to make vegans look bad.

I'm pretty sure vegan's don't eat products that are shaped like animals. Ironically, meat is made to look like anything but an animal, they look more like vegetables than anything. When you look at a sausage you think it looks like a pig? The level of cringe.

Ironically, even from rationalist perspective, the guy would fall apart if you asked him to justify any of his metaphyiscal positions. You can sense how shallow his understanding of metaphysics is, like unfortunately is the case with most scientists. They are so unaware of their depth of ignorance that they do not even know how many assumptions they just take for granted with their materialist worldview, so much so that they do not even comprehend that they need to justify all of it, which of course they do not and cannot. They are not even equipped to do so on a philosophical level. They will walk around talking about metaphysics and then when you point out their assumptions and ask to justify them, they will say "That's just philosophy we don't do that in science!". It's really child-like behaviour, as soon as their incompetency is revealed they will immediately dismiss any legitimacy to the rational inquiry into metaphysics, which they themselves claim someone else is engaging irrationally with. How would they even know how to contextualize their physicalist models without metaphysics? Man, scientists are so uneducated it's really a shame.

This isn't news, sadly a lot of people are in denial about this. They think just because it looks natural means it will be better for the environment. Factory farming is the most efficient way to do animal farming, of course it's less environmentally destructive on a large scale, it's called factory farming for a reason. Normal farming just doesn't scale. If you try to scale it you just do more damage.

A bit surprising coming from the Infrared guy, who is very emotionally immature, but it has some good takes that contextualize well within Spiral Dynamics:

Anything that wouldn't be considered exploitation would basically be vegan. However, in the context in which your grandma keeps your cow most likely, as property not in the context of guardianship, is inherently exploitative and therefore not vegan. If you find an egg that you know a chicken will not eat (because chickens eat their own eggs to get their nutrients back), so you are not stealing it from anyone, then you could possibly eat it and that would be considered vegan, as it wouldn't be exploitative. However, if you were to keep chickens as property so you can consume their eggs, that would be slavery and be non-vegan, no matter how nicely you treat your slaves. Also, we have to consider that nowadays we would be normalizing the consumption of eggs if we were to continue to do so, which also would lead to more suffering indirectly. But in most cases, even backyard chickens exist in an exploitative relationship towards their owners, so unless it is an animal sanctuary it will most likely not be vegan. Acquiring chickens in most cases will not be vegan in the first place, it has to be in the context of rescue.

Nothing makes sense experientially, other than the experience of making sense. You are operating on a very surface level here, deluding yourself with your own thoughts. The impossibility word refers to something specific, if you had insight into it you would know why I call it that. Of course it doesn't make sense, that's the point. You have not decuónstructed the very lense you choose to view this from, which is why you have trouble grasping what I am trying to convey. What you are saying is a story, a story of a perceiver who pays attention and gains deeper insight into reality. See, you pretend as if you have discovered someting of greater depth, when in fact the appearances just took on a new form of being. Deconstruct this lense, you are trapped in concepts.