Sevi

@TodImproves that's an excellent point, and I totally think you are right. I would actually be there in my life, more than that it is an inspiring motivation for me to do all the work. And to litmus test your states guys, and for you to understand the other end's point of view of such a scenario@TodImproves @Principium Nexus I challenge both of you to write down now, your real full names and your occupations then under it the most emotionally difficult thing to do for you in your current lifes. And of course doing it, without lying, with full honesty, giving the accurate facts.

I'm in both days.

Ok. I am re-writing everything again. I am quite annoyed right now. I'm gonna write as if an hour ago: I've just seen this thread, normally I would like to take some time to sort my ideas out to give a useful feedback, but if I write it spontaneously, This then will be a self portrait of myself. Normally I am a very reserved person. It is difficult for me to just write away such things because it is asked, I am forcing myself right now. I had to handle things on my own. I have difficulty to open up my weaknesses and ask for help. Likewise, I have difficulty to express my feelings when I am hurt or when I feel down or upset and ask for emotional support. The things make me stuck boil into my management of my sleep cycle which is related to two major subjects. 1) it's deeply related to couple of my deep-seated emotions 2) my passionate personality, meaning when I like something I focus on it naturally and intensely, I have hard time to give a break before I get it done. Then it burns me out. Which is recently connected to actualized.org. Because I liked it, now my almost full attention goes to that. Where I am feeling like handed a gift but very uncomfortable at the same time because of my poor management of it; so basically I am bad at managing this personality trait of mine. I am very sensitive to the emotional state of the ones that I care. Where I can be very psychic, it becomes a challenge for me to be an observer and differentiate myself from that. And disharmony effects my potency. (I had quite difficult time to remember this paragraph, -and accidentally I erased the whole thing- it is most likely that this was the part which was difficult to my ego) I don't know if this is a helpful feedback since it is just self analyze, but I will re-visit the topic again. Lastly I really didn't like the tone of this thread. It might be most likely because my ego feels very threatened but at the same time it feels very cold hearted -rather than being objective- to such humanistic questions. Leo, I am answering just because I have full trust in your caring heart. P.S. see it's almost 4 am right now and I am still writing this; this is very annoying for me. P.S.2 topics are running and changing so fast and some of them are really interesting, ok, I'm cutting it here. I need to limit this.

Now I have to write all the stuff again...

@Shin Yes, I can relate to that.. You are so funny

Yoda sends his greetings to everyone in Actualized.org, and says: May the 4th be with you!

@Shin that was beautiful! Thank you why is your bunny upset about such a good thing?

@Barna please don't smoke often..

@Shin anything else dear??

@Barna I have a theory: so, that can mean that we can concentrate on the gap between from now and the first thing into the future. So that, taste and test thus calm the fear of it might be possible. Since we would still be in now, but a little bit into the future part of that equilibrium.. ?

@Shin okay hon, no worries, go rest a bit.. See, I just can write like this, I cannot put the tag on here.. so I'm not mentioning you here, you probably can pass this..

@Sevi @Shin I do press the edit button! And the moment I click the user, to it in that editing, the user jumps into an another new session! I did it before, as you do, why it's not happening again?

@Shin Acting you are, as if not knowing it, serve you no more, he says.. Also, says he: Should you teach her how to edit the posts as you do

@John Flores oh, I see..Thank you very much for the share John!

@Shin awakened already you are and appreciated deeply, he says..

@aurum you can check "Epic of Gilgamesh" basically it tells all the story about the gods mentioned above. Actually in my very first play, I played the role of "Ninsun" the mother of Gilgamesh.. That epic is a summary of the Mesopotamian Tablets that @John Flores was referring to. @John Flores I didn't know that they were encoded in Torah, that's quite interesting! @Dodoster your business lady guardian angel says that she loves you so much❤?

@username yeah, he nailed it so well in that video! It made me think that he is a telepathic person.. Yep, agreed

@Seed why do I resonate with this ? I know you are doing this to make me feel home? I appreciate it, thanks? P.S Sorry for being off topic

I loved it! @Shin thanks :3 I can do this homework every day

@No-Thing I would say it was gender neutral writing, but more often we ladies put a lot of subjectivity in things; so when we don't see that trace generally we assume that it is something masculine? and I appreciate your kind words, that was nice to write to you.

@No-Thing that's very interesting, because, what I see is you are identifying yourself with your opinions (about the thread), which are totally two different things. Yes somehow I was opposing some of the points you made, but not 'you'; actually I liked 'you' because of bringing such a nice topic to the table which even made me wanna be part of. 'She always needs to be right' is such a good catch though? one of my very down falls. And I really had approved your clear good intentions and because of that I joined your thread. If I thought otherwise, I would have just passed it by interpreting that your ego is just reacting back to some uncomfortable truth. I would find unnecessary to write anything about it. But that's good to know, because I could have mentioned that while writing, I just assumed that you had already known how I thought, because in my mind, I was already actively responding which for me means that I already acknowledged your manifestation as a good one. Hmm.. interesting. Thanks again.

@No-Thing yes, probably your title of the thread made me think that you were arguing about the points you made. But this was such a brilliant topic, we are all together in this forum because of Leo Gura's videos, and how we perceive and what we understand from them is a very valuable share; actually is the major reason of the forum to my opinion. Since what is offered in the videos are already very useful tools to self improvement, to share our point of views of them would be such enriching experience for all of us, I would like to do this more often. And compare and contrast is a very efficient way to clarify any concept, so to question every single aspect and hold an argument about it, is a very nice idea I think. Thanks

@No-Thing Although you bring an important topic to the table, I will disagree almost every argument you brought. On the way to enlightenment, Leo Gura's approach and methodology is one of the most eligible and accurate ones, if not the best and clearly this is a very pretentious claim. Why? Especially because of his efficient usage of epistemology and his accuracy about scepticism. These two major elements allow him to take his stand ideology-neutral, objective and equally distant from any of the proposals of the case. Also which creates not so-called but a real radical open-mindedness. He is a young researcher so that his personal experiences of enlightenment might be limited, but he is clearly skillful at the implementations of the aforementioned tools. Therefore that makes an important difference on this subject matter. 'Enlightenment' has become a very popular term and concept in our modern society; almost polluted by all the attributions and projections of the social groups and individuals. To the point that to define its content with accuracy is nearly impossible. But still we can talk about some facts about it. It contains deconstruction process of all of the conditionings. To lead such a process one must have stepped out from the social matrix as much as possible, and have qualifications to question every element of it which requires the tools mentioned above. In such a process, emotions can cause mislead, since they can easily be the byproducts of conditionings. That doesn't necessarily mean that the leader is going to disregard related sensations or emotions that are occurring or which are already existing but an unnecessary emphasis on them can be inhibiting to the growth. One of the other undeniable elements of enlightenment is purification. Although what it is could be a open topic to discussion, simply we can define it as a cleaning process. To purify, we need to understand what conceptualization is, then we need to examine every single element of it. And again it requires a neutral, curious mind. As a modern society we have a tendency to misunderstand and misuse of the concept of acceptance. The technology and the manipulative effects of marketing strategies naturally clouded the notion of what effort is and more so, what 'cause and effect' is so that we became indolent and inactive individuals. When we are confronted with the fact that to do the purification, or to be able to get rid of the conditionings, there has to be an effort input for it, we generally like to escape to the modernized definition of acceptance which in fact is a type of learned helplessness. Unfortunately "failing as a human being at the end of the life journey" is a very truthful claim which you will find out in couple of different ancient teachings if you search. Someone bold enough to remind that to us is an important asset for our modern age. And to bring these uncomfortable facts to our modern society's attention is not an easy task.

Yes, I knew? but wrote it anyways?

@Shin I DO. I don't play with people's hearts. If inadvertently, unconsciously I make a mistake on such a matter, the moment I realize it, I start to do my utmost best to mend the damage I caused. If I have something else than love in my mind about somebody, I let them know about what exactly is in my mind and I bear the results. Especially if I hate or really dislike someone I give their chances to them to know about it and to defend themselves. That's something very important for me. BUT, here, you can be loved and appreciated as much as this vehicle allows you; which is very limited. And also the way and the amount you open and share yourself is another thing. Also, by saying 'love' here what are we really referring to? In this case what are YOU really referring to? What I see is the fear of being tricked or played is much more accurate than the question of being loved. People can love you only to their capacity of that, but sometimes you just need to except their intend for it as it is. And if they are already in denial in life so then their way of playing tricks on people is not really about you, or your worthiness to be loved. You are worthy to be loved, but I think you have hard time believing in that, so that it turns into projection of that fear into your interactions. From an outside eye, you have already a loving heart, it is itself a good enough reason for the girls to love you (in their capacity) ? ?