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Unlikely for you because you are resisting to the truth out there

Don't have too much hope for that girl. If she said that she has too much stuff to do next week and she had issues holding eye contact in the second date only, it's very ominous signs of imminent rejection. She might just continue to text you to not feel rude because she already knows she's not gonna date you anymore. I mean this is just speculations of course, but just don't hold that girl too much in your heart it will help if it turns out to be true, plus there is so many other girls you shouldn't hold her too much in your heart anyway.

There is so much evidence in that series that can be check on wikipedia and elsewhere. You really need to close your eyes, shout really loudly and slap yourself in the face to not be open to the idea that ufos and aliens are a real possibilities

Well the thing is we don't care about you believing this stuff. You on the other hand care a lot that we do. That should tell you something

There is a difference between being your own authority and being so skeptical that you don't entertain the possibility of almost anything that you don't judge proved enough by whatever authority you hold dear (by your standard). Refuting everything like you do is not being open minded.

With that logic, you can deny anything There are countless of spiritual teacher that are fake and tell bullshit, so spirituality is a joke and totally fake There are countless of politicians that are corrupt, so all of them are corrupt and none of them act because they truly care

Only one possibility is alien And you really think thousands of people lied for 70 years (that includes the politics, police officers, and military) ? For what purpose ?

Stop reciting books and arguing ? You deserve a slap in your face, if you were in a traditional setting, the chief monk would have hit you with a stick already ?

Well no kiss second date, she starts to think she is too ugly or stupid for you, or she thinks that you are too shy which is way worse ?

Nope, even them make sound when they go boom boom. Didn't you watch any superhero movies ?

I would tell her about the problem you have just after being confident to kiss her and be playful with her for at least an hour, she should be happy enough to accept it by then, and if not, then at least you did the best you could.

Well tell her that, in that specific context that could be a good thing to be honest about it. If you don't, she's most likely gonna find someone else cause she won't understand why you aren't going for sex with her ("I am too ugly for him ?" "I am just a way to pass time because he's bored ?" "is he a virgin ?"). What you really can't do is to be as shy and unsure about yourself being close to her again (=no kissing, hugging etc.), that's a big nono, be at ease around her even if you can't have sex with her, or at least try to be despite the inconvenience.

From personal experience you learn to be assertive by failing with women. Either by being too passive or by faking too much assertiveness while being self conscious. You can't just become a natural, balanced, attractive man by just reading books or doing affirmations when you come from an incel background, you need to deeply suffer from the rejection. At least that's my take, and obviously like you said you need to be able to reflect on what happened, be self conscious afterwards and even during the date. Otherwise you just become a creep and borderline rapy dude like the women on this thread talked about, or stay into a toxic spiral of self pity like the incel community.

Or «plane crash», and of course no one except the military have seen the debris ? I actually forgot about an intelligent species living deep into the sea. Probably more things possible, but to think we would hide technologies for 70 years, just for the sake of it, in a stage orange world, is ... 3 stars copium ???

You think those advices come out of our asses ? ? It's just how, most of the times it works. Of course in some cases, like for example when the guy is tricking/pressuring the girl, it doesn't apply. For the op, which come from an incel background, he doesn't need to care about being too aggressive, cause that's what he is lacking. He's not gonna turn into a huge macho asshole in one date. We're talking about date here, not being friend, not being in the friendzone, and if the girl accepted to go on a date, it at least means she, at the time of the date, felt like the op was attractive (I'm assuming it's not an online date he got).

Ufos are a real phenomenon if you dig seriously enough. What they can be is 4 things: Secret technologies Time travel from the future Interdimensional machine Aliens Considering all the crazy things we've heard of as soon as the 50s, I wouldn't bet on the first case that much. Stop the copium ?

It is simple but not easy. Op made it complicated by himself in his mind. How complicated is it to start kissing a girl ? Don't need to do calculus, just kiss. Most of the time it applies. The few times it doesn't is when experience is useful to gauge the situation. It doesn't matter anyway, you can just say you thought she wanted it, and back off, unless she's a psycho she's not gonna hold it against you.

It's never the right moment when you're not comfortable around women ? Next time you think this way, say that you need to go to the toilet, slap yourself real hard in the face, then come back to her and kiss her ? Most of you guys just need to stop thinking and start acting, there is nothing complicated with all of this. She accept the dates = she likes you The date goes fine = she wants you to kiss her She lets you be alone with her in your/her apartment = she wants you to fuck her Just stop thinking ?

Just say you want to take a walk next time. Then stop at a bridge and kiss her.

They are there, I pray for your lower back my friends.

Yeah but they have such a beautiful face that it compensate a lot. God, I'm arguing about women boobs, I think that's enough internet for today

Maybe there is more, but you will never prove me anything or anyone else

Concerning women with flat chest, well that would be lying to say a decent proportion of men like that. Don't see the problem with implants or make up, just that in some case it's unnecessary, neurotic and/or overkill. Just like men who are so buff they don't look like healthy anymore.

That's exactly what Leo and Mu talk about. Your problem is that you're lost in concepts, and to you, it looks like they are contradicting themselves. This stuff is too much of a mindfuck, and it's deeply paradoxical, so unless you directly experience it, you will fucking fight over fucking words and terminologies that all pretty much point to the same thing. When you will drop that pointless fight of concepts then you will just stop debating and actually do what needs to be done. Until then, it's just a sneaky way to distract yourself by convincing yourself you're not lol

I thought «she» was a «he». Wouldn't have made that joke otherwise ?